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  1. Omnitech's Avatar
    Several people have asked for someone to create a summary or synopsis of the (so far) 40-page/1,000+ post thread on the 10.1.0.2342 leak for the Z10.

    I totally sympathize as it's a lot of work to go through those huge threads, I've been there many times myself.

    So I spent several hours putting together a synopsis of user comments from the original thread as I perused it.

    I was selective in compiling this, tried to avoid duplicates as much as possible. (ie the same user making the same observation several times)

    I also avoided most of the comments on carrier-specific radio idiosyncracies because it's just too much of a moving target. But hopefully this will give people an idea about what people liked or disliked about this build.

    Each category includes links to each of the comments that fall under that category. I have ordered the items in order of most to least comments on a particular issue.

    I hope this is useful to people, I know I'd be glad for such a thing when I want to learn about something and don't have the time on my hands to scroll through 1,000 posts.




    Pro's or advantages reported for 10.1.0.2342


    Improved self-reboot issue for some people
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542573
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542920
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542969
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543307
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544716
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545576
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545746
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546875
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546991
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547005
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547500
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547790
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547839
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549052
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549127
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549268
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549274
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549672
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8550972
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551146
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8552083


    Faster install/reboot/restore
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8540852
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8540928
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541082
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541098
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541138
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541171
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541197
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541319
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541367
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541386
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541428
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541456
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541569
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541628
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541830
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541837
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541932
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543301


    Quick and smooth operation
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541288
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541367
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541477
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542498
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542503
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543684
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543926
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544716
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545317
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551573
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551588
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551999


    Improved battery life over official releases or not specified
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545406
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546862
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547587
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547977
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548137
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548314
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549949
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551581
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551588


    Improved battery life over previous leaks
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544481
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547065
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548656
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549548
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551573
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8552021


    Visual Voicemail options for Rogers customers
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541240
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546578
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546633
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549162
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549655


    Emoticons/Emojis/High-order ASCII characters now visible on Twitter, BBM, SMS
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542155
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546346
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546423


    Edit format options in email compose screen for replies as well as original
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542611
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541526
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541535


    Side buttons working with Android apps now
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543177
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543935
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546456


    General contacts improvements inc duplicates issue
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544273
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549548
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549725


    Editable APN settings for Rogers
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541335


    Ability to call or text directly from call log/SMS pane (perhaps also in .273)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541453


    Ability to swipe from lock screen without keyboard appearing, and swipe down
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541481


    Clicking "eye" to reveal password text no longer hides keyboard
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541835


    Not prompting repeatedly for Yahoo passwords
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541837


    PIM sync items now grouped under master account
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543544


    Improvement to remote file access via BB Link
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543926


    Android apps now have formal permissions
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544026


    Per-contact notification option expansion (common 10.1 feature)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544480


    Improve issue with device not fully charging
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543168


    Android apps can now use removable flash card for storage
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544823


    "Language and Input" feature working better than previous leaks
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546570


    Device runs cooler
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547500


    Browser works faster
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547876


    Longer calendar history
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548213


    More calendar color options
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548213


    Persistent network and VPN connections more reliable
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549274


    Resolved SMS delays
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549548


    Last boot time appears again in settings (contradicted by some)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541171







    Con's or disadvantages reported for 10.1.0.2342


    Worse battery life than previous leak or official release (general) (see add'l category below)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543900
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544275
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544283
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544838
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545746
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545908
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546845
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546906
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547087
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547955
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548113
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548440
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548941


    Can't send/receive images via SMS/MMS, general SMS/MMS issues (mostly Rogers users? Security wipe may fix?)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542503
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543486
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543684
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543900
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543926
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544147
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544644
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544918
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545136
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547793
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547955
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551045


    Browser crashes/freezes (possible fix via security wipe)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8548657
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549511
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549648
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549823
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542605


    Worse battery life than .1880 leak
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542259
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545199
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546837


    Sideloading apps takes longer to install/initialize
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541453
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541482
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542718


    Issues populating Facebook/Twitter photos, slow
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8540894
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542524


    Multi-select in Hub automatically cancels (some say it resolves eventually)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541477
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541646


    GPS reception issues (corrected after security wipe)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544860
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8547276


    WiFi signal weaker
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545457
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546837


    Change of filesystem path for removable flash card from /sdcard2 to /sdcard/external_sd
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543782
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544026


    Does not solve self-reboot problems for all users
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541907
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8549048


    Makes self-reboot problem worse
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546330


    Self-reboots replaced with app freezes
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545576


    Format screen open by default for email compose, black color now default
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541526


    CalDAV problems (apparently on other recent leaks as well)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541709


    Issues reading from SD card, ie pictures
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541988


    Issues with Blackberry World available apps page
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542133


    Hub initialization takes longer
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8542718


    Android apps not running
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543524


    Not showing BBM Voice/video chats in contact
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543595


    Doesn't scroll to top of active frame list when closing last active frame
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8543926


    Must use SSL for EAS connections (similiar to previous 10.1 leaks)
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544105


    "Jumpy" menu navigation
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544481


    Low speaker volume
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8544685


    Close tab not working in tab list view in browser
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545576


    Overflow menu UI issues
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8545891


    Phone running hot
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546733


    Phone call delays
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546733


    BBM sluggishness
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546837


    Compass needle does not appear
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8546873


    Sluggish UI "peeking"
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8551167


    No editable APN settings for Rogers
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8541386


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    Last edited by Omnitech; 05-27-13 at 01:06 AM. Reason: minor typo
    05-27-13 12:47 AM
  2. Kris Simundson's Avatar
    Great work, I'd go insane trying to put that together

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 12:58 AM
  3. 00stryder's Avatar
    Wow, kudos to you, sir. I read through that entire forums post and cataloging the responses was the LAST thing I was thinking about, lol.

    Posted via CB10 & loving it!
    calicocat2010 likes this.
    05-27-13 01:02 AM
  4. Omnitech's Avatar
    Great work, I'd go insane trying to put that together

    Thanks. It helps if you start out insane.
    05-27-13 01:03 AM
  5. ldudiaz's Avatar
    Wao you my friend deserve a gift, thanks

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 01:03 AM
  6. russworman's Avatar
    Very much appreciated.

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 01:04 AM
  7. BBFanatic4Life's Avatar
    Wow this is seriously impressive. I've done a lot of reading in that post and it's really quite the chore to wade through. Thanks for doing this, above and beyond the call of duty. Posts like this is what makes the CrackBerry community the best on the internet.
    05-27-13 01:12 AM
  8. calicocat2010's Avatar
    This should be done for Every leak that comes out because it's quite impossible to go through SO many pages and read up what everyone is saying.
    05-27-13 01:23 AM
  9. Omnitech's Avatar
    This should be done for Every leak that comes out because it's quite impossible to go through SO many pages and read up what everyone is saying.

    I agree but that might involve some casualties.

    Could be an opportunity to design some sort of multi-polar poll where people could enter their comments, but there's a lot of interpretation involved in parsing through all those comments and distilling the significant ones out, especially since people might post an hour after they loaded the leak "This thing has horrible battery life", and then 2 days later change around and say "Battery life is great after it resynced everything", etc.
    CMcRob likes this.
    05-27-13 01:39 AM
  10. global14u's Avatar
    Agree with the poll need, and thanks to the OP fr taking this effort. Its really a lot of material just to read.

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 03:19 AM
  11. timmsy's Avatar
    Sorry dude but you just put together a massive waste if time lol, it go through the pros, better battery, runs cooler, les random reboots on and on and on, then u get to disadvantages and its the direct opposite to the pros, more reboots, worse battery, hotter running, bla bla bla pointless rubbish and waste of reading

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 03:20 AM
  12. Omnitech's Avatar
    Sorry dude but you just put together a massive waste if time lol, it go through the pros, better battery, runs cooler, les random reboots on and on and on, then u get to disadvantages and its the direct opposite to the pros, more reboots, worse battery, hotter running, bla bla bla pointless rubbish and waste of reading

    Actually I think there are many good things to be learned there, as do many other people.

    But next time, feel free to ignore such posts and spend your own several hours wading through the thread only to come to the same conclusion you just came to in (I would estimate) .5 seconds.
    05-27-13 03:30 AM
  13. yvpan1's Avatar
    thanks omnitech! you're the champ!

    as much as people have praised the .2342 OS (shown by those numbers of pros) but looking at the cons section i also see a pretty long list of problems too here. hopefully carriers or future updates will address those issues. but yeah.. i'm so amazed with the way BB10 OS is on its way to the maturity. this is a new kid on the block which is currently on sprint mode towards its maturity and i believe towards the 10.2 OS and beyond, BB10 will be better, better and... better.

    keep moving, BB10!
    05-27-13 04:35 AM
  14. Omnitech's Avatar
    thanks omnitech! you're the champ!

    as much as people have praised the .2342 OS (shown by those numbers of pros) but looking at the cons section i also see a pretty long list of problems too here. hopefully carriers or future updates will address those issues.


    Thanks for the props.

    When it comes to what to pay attention to in the comments submitted, when I see a category where only a single comment was made, I would take that observation with a grain of salt, especially if I haven't read the specific comment to get a feel for how credible it seems. Just like it's probably not prudent to just read a single Yelp review of a restaurant.

    When I see things where large, almost equally-sized groups of people have polar opposite observations (like the battery life issues), my general conclusion is that there are either too many variables to make a simple analysis, or else the net result is "about the same as before, on average".
    blakobecwa likes this.
    05-27-13 04:45 AM
  15. BlackberryTorcher's Avatar
    Haha haha thanks OP. I hope you didn't make this post on your CB10 app?! That would be more insane! Good job. .2342 was the most unstable leak for me, I ran back to .2009 for safety lol

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 06:33 AM
  16. Deathcoffin's Avatar
    Op u should have a place along side ibfe and kris....

    Sent from my WhiteBerry Z10
    05-27-13 06:45 AM
  17. kavanascott's Avatar
    WOW, nice wotk...

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 06:59 AM
  18. Norg's Avatar
    Nicely done and serious nice work Omnitech, truly much appreciated

    Posted on CB10 via my Z10
    05-27-13 07:46 AM
  19. bobo616's Avatar
    Thanks so much for the effort taken to do this.
    05-27-13 08:04 AM
  20. gen_accident's Avatar
    Now that's a useful post. Well done, Omnitech.

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 08:06 AM
  21. DjDante's Avatar
    That's impressive. Thanks A Lot. But for some reason when I clicked on a link and doesn't take me to the correct post.

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-13 08:10 AM
  22. lowest's Avatar
    I'm impressed
    05-27-13 08:28 AM
  23. KemKev's Avatar
    Excellent work, OP. Much appreciated
    05-27-13 09:00 AM
  24. Kamika007z's Avatar
    Thank you omni!

    Whoever thinks this is wasted work is a turd and should flush themselves down a toilet.
    Mecca EL and gallopiton like this.
    05-27-13 11:37 AM
  25. endoskeletal's Avatar
    I've already been on .2342, but you, OP, are awesome.
    05-27-13 11:50 AM
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