1. RoelandH's Avatar
    What additional features benefits can I expect when enabling the HUB+ permission in the HUB?
    03-22-17 05:55 PM
  2. Bla1ze's Avatar
    It's all the same thing at the core. You can't have BlackBerry Hub without BlackBerry Hub+ Services. That's how Hub works.
    03-22-17 06:22 PM
  3. nashama's Avatar
    Blaze, sorry to turn in late. Your reply post is more than a year old but I just "migrated" from Blackberry Classic to Blackberry Keyone black edition single SIM 64GB. I'm on Keyone for the 4th day now.
    Do you mean the keyone also needs hub+ services to be installed? I mean is it indispensable? Its inherent hub is not enough to run the operations (like we used to have in classic or Q10)?
    Now, I've 2 symbols or icons in the "Apps" inside the "settings" - one is "Blackberry Hub+ services" - the blue color icon and the other is just "Hub" - same symbol as it used to be in the Classic.
    08-24-18 06:38 PM
  4. joeldf's Avatar
    Blaze, sorry to turn in late. Your reply post is more than a year old but I just "migrated" from Blackberry Classic to Blackberry Keyone black edition single SIM 64GB. I'm on Keyone for the 4th day now.
    Do you mean the keyone also needs hub+ services to be installed? I mean is it indispensable? Its inherent hub is not enough to run the operations (like we used to have in classic or Q10)?
    Now, I've 2 symbols or icons in the "Apps" inside the "settings" - one is "Blackberry Hub+ services" - the blue color icon and the other is just "Hub" - same symbol as it used to be in the Classic.
    The Hub+ Services is required because the Keyone is running Android without that built in. The Classic ran BB10 with all those backend services built into the OS.

    BlackBerry can't do that with an OS not made or controlled by them so they have to add services (which can be done, just not as elegantly) on top of the android OS to make the Hub app itself work.

    The Hub+ Services also work with the calendar, tasks, notes and contacts.

    You shouldn't need to install it. It should come on the phone as part of the system.

    It's other phones that it can be installed on as a third party app. I have the most of the suite on my Galaxy S8.
    08-24-18 08:37 PM
  5. nashama's Avatar
    Thanks for the quick reply, joeldf .

    I am still coming to terms with the android Keyone.

    Every now and then I look into the Keyone for something which could be similar to the Classic OS 10 - such is/was the "hardwired" mind for a BB10 customer.

    Eventually, I should overcome this .......

    Lets see.
    08-24-18 09:26 PM
  6. nashama's Avatar
    Joeldf,

    There's something I need to report. My main email account is on the hotmail and most of the things on the keyone are "tied" to this account. However, to get some apps thru play store i had to use my gmail email ID (obviously no other option) . I got those apps finally on the keyone. But while i was in the service center to clarify some doubts, we noticed the gmail account was not displayed in the hub. We could only see the hotmail account. The service guy tried to look for the gmail account but with no success. Finally, has added gmail account (he let me put thru the email id and the password). Thereafter, the gmail account was seen in the hub.
    HOwever, there are now 2 hubs on the keyone - one is the hotmail and other is the gmail.
    Is this normal? if add one more email account, will it add a 3rd hub icon??
    And one more concern is the gmail account i added on the keyone is the same one on the Samsung tablet as well. Will this cause any conflict / syncing issues?
    Actually, i'm struggling to come to terms with the android system (though it sounds easy but there are too many options all over unlike the OS10/BB10 which i was very plain and straightforward).
    08-26-18 03:53 AM
  7. joeldf's Avatar
    There may be more knowledgeable people who can chime in, but the Hub - the way it is on the Keyone, as it is on any android phone - is just a client email app. You have to set up the accounts within the Hub+ Services app, then set up which ones to show in the Hub itself. Within the Hub settings, you can set a home screen shortcut for each account, which could be how you are seeing a separate home screen icons for each account - that goes to the same Hub but filters only emails in that account. I think that could be what you are seeing. You don't need that and you can remove them from the home screen if you want.

    Having the gmail, and your Google account on more than one device is no problem. In fact, that's how it's supposed to work. It's made so all devices see the same new/read/sent email list across all devices. Just like a work exchange account.

    Now, full disclosure here, but my Google account is not tied to a gmail address the way Google would like for you to do it. Mine is tied to my regular ISP email account. I set the account up years ago right before Gmail went fully public. For a while back around 2010, you could not set up an android phone unless your Google account had a gmail address. When we set up my son's Galaxy S2, it refused to accept any address unless it was a gmail address. I tried my Google account, and my wife tried her Google account (also not with a gmail address). My wife finally had to create a gmail address just for the purpose of setting up his phone. That has since changed, and a gmail email address is no longer required.

    I currently have my Google account on 3 devices. It was previously set up only on my Z10 - so I could use Snap to load Google Play Store apps back when that app worked. Then, using Cobalt's patched Google Play Store, I used the same account. I've since reloaded the OS several months ago and have not reloaded the Play Store because the Z10 is no longer in regular service.

    Now, it's on my current Galaxy S8, with all the apps I originally had on my Z10 showing up in my library. Of course, now I can actually pay for new ones through my carrier on the phone. That wasn't possible on the Z10, so I only downloaded free apps at the time.

    The account is also on my old first gen Kindle Fire that I rooted, loaded up Android 4.4 KitKat, and now running with minimal Google Apps and the Play Store. That device is me just playing around with it. It's too slow to do any real work on it.

    I did load Google Play services and the Play Store on my wife's 7th gen Kindle Fire HD8 (which can be easily done loading up 4 apps). That way, we aren't limited to just the Amazon App Store. And, I can load up most of the same apps I bought for the S8.
    08-26-18 11:58 AM
  8. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Thanks for the quick reply, joeldf .

    I am still coming to terms with the android Keyone.

    Every now and then I look into the Keyone for something which could be similar to the Classic OS 10 - such is/was the "hardwired" mind for a BB10 customer.

    Eventually, I should overcome this .......

    Lets see.
    It's not about converting BB10 users to BBAndroid as much as it's about converting Android users to BBAndroid. More people left BBOS and BB10 for Android/IOS than stayed behind. The whole success of BBAndroid depends on converting those people. BBOS and BB10 diehards are just assumed to migrate to BBAndroid eventually. Where else would they go?
    08-26-18 12:58 PM
  9. nashama's Avatar
    There may be more knowledgeable people who can chime in, but the Hub - the way it is on the Keyone, as it is on any android phone - is just a client email app. You have to set up the accounts within the Hub+ Services app, then set up which ones to show in the Hub itself. Within the Hub settings, you can set a home screen shortcut for each account, which could be how you are seeing a separate home screen icons for each account - that goes to the same Hub but filters only emails in that account. I think that could be what you are seeing. You don't need that and you can remove them from the home screen if you want.

    Having the gmail, and your Google account on more than one device is no problem. In fact, that's how it's supposed to work. It's made so all devices see the same new/read/sent email list across all devices. Just like a work exchange account.

    Now, full disclosure here, but my Google account is not tied to a gmail address the way Google would like for you to do it. Mine is tied to my regular ISP email account. I set the account up years ago right before Gmail went fully public. For a while back around 2010, you could not set up an android phone unless your Google account had a gmail address. When we set up my son's Galaxy S2, it refused to accept any address unless it was a gmail address. I tried my Google account, and my wife tried her Google account (also not with a gmail address). My wife finally had to create a gmail address just for the purpose of setting up his phone. That has since changed, and a gmail email address is no longer required.

    I currently have my Google account on 3 devices. It was previously set up only on my Z10 - so I could use Snap to load Google Play Store apps back when that app worked. Then, using Cobalt's patched Google Play Store, I used the same account. I've since reloaded the OS several months ago and have not reloaded the Play Store because the Z10 is no longer in regular service.

    Now, it's on my current Galaxy S8, with all the apps I originally had on my Z10 showing up in my library. Of course, now I can actually pay for new ones through my carrier on the phone. That wasn't possible on the Z10, so I only downloaded free apps at the time.

    The account is also on my old first gen Kindle Fire that I rooted, loaded up Android 4.4 KitKat, and now running with minimal Google Apps and the Play Store. That device is me just playing around with it. It's too slow to do any real work on it.

    I did load Google Play services and the Play Store on my wife's 7th gen Kindle Fire HD8 (which can be easily done loading up 4 apps). That way, we aren't limited to just the Amazon App Store. And, I can load up most of the same apps I bought for the S8.
    Thanks Joeldf for a detailed reply. Much appreciated.
    08-27-18 02:37 AM
  10. nashama's Avatar
    It's not about converting BB10 users to BBAndroid as much as it's about converting Android users to BBAndroid. More people left BBOS and BB10 for Android/IOS than stayed behind. The whole success of BBAndroid depends on converting those people. BBOS and BB10 diehards are just assumed to migrate to BBAndroid eventually. Where else would they go?
    Thanks for the reply, Chuck Finley.
    08-27-18 02:38 AM

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