Nov 17 2019 | 6:51 am EST Emaderton3

That contract was cancelled years ago (I believe with TomTom). So no updates.

Nov 17 2019 | 7:00 am EST DSturke

Thanks. I think it was MapQuest. Regardless, any idea if any sort of contract will be in place any time soon?

Nov 17 2019 | 7:30 am EST conite

No. BB10 is going EOL.

Nov 17 2019 | 8:16 am EST brookie229

Not MapQuest but is indeed affiliated with Tom Tom and it's extremely doubtful that there will be any update.

Nov 17 2019 | 8:42 am EST DSturke

"End of Line"???

I have heard -- on this forum that I need to run for the tall grass with BB10 AND I have heard that it "will be around for a long time"

For someone who is more concerned with usability than what's under the hood, what might be the time line and what plans should the user make for whatever change may be coming?

Nov 17 2019 | 8:45 am EST Chuck Finley69

@TrumpetTiger - I’ll let you answer this from your optimistic perspective

Nov 17 2019 | 8:51 am EST conite

"End of Life"

The OS becomes EOL on Dec31st. Back-end services won't be immediately shut down, but will slowly die over time as vendor and employment contracts run their courses.

Nov 17 2019 | 9:02 am EST DSturke

So.... what does that mean to we limited tech users? Do we have a new OS? Do we have to walk away from BlackBerry? What's next?

Nov 17 2019 | 9:05 am EST DSturke

All due respect, that comment means nothing. If you are going to be on a forum helping folks -- especially those of us who don't have the technical expertise -- how about offering useful answers.

Nov 17 2019 | 9:11 am EST elfabio80

No...no new OS from BlackBerry! You can keep on use BB10 until it will be working for you, but there will no be updates. New apps (if any) could be downloaded probably only outside the BBW. Some users are here really helpful and will be happy to support you...

You can walk away from BlackBerry, honestly. Their android smartphone are not going to see any update. The Key2 and Key2 Le will be staying with Android 8.1, while even cheap android will be getting at least one major update. BlackBerry has no money to invest on mobile unfortunately...

BlackBerry is not the giant used to be unfortunately....

Nov 17 2019 | 9:22 am EST Chuck Finley69

Thanks for the idea since I’m kinda new around here. I’ve moved on from BB10 long ago. I just asked the biggest proponent for BB10, that I can think of, besides @conite, @brookie229 or @mh1983 for now.

My helpful suggestion, especially for nontechnical people like myself is to purchase a modern Android/iOS device that is currently supported.

Nov 17 2019 | 9:28 am EST DSturke

Damn, I don't want to go to the "dark side"

Among the things I held dear with BB is the ability to sync with Outlook and carry my business with me. For me, I run things on desktop, and my device is merely a place to park contact lists, calendars, etc.

Frankly I have no idea whether anything Droid or IOS can do such things...

Nov 17 2019 | 9:33 am EST brookie229

The best answer (in my opinion) is enjoy using your device until you don't enjoy it anymore. Everyone comes to a point where things don't work the way they want them to and then it's time to move on. I'm still using my Passport as my main device but that doesn't mean others can do the same. All we know is what BB has stated. You can find the company quote here on the forums with a search. Your device will not just suddenly die/explode/quit working on Jan 1, 2020. Services for BB10 may continue to disappear slowly over time so just be prepared to move on to a new OS and new device. I know that you are looking for a more precise answer but there just is none at the moment. Hope that helps.

Nov 17 2019 | 9:39 am EST TgeekB

Well said. Each of us has to make our own decision based on our wants and needs.

Nov 17 2019 | 10:05 am EST Chuck Finley69

Outlook and it’s related Microsoft ecosystem has been heavily developed by Microsoft as first party developer for Android/iOS for several years now. Even more importantly, Microsoft has focused on it’s cross platform functionality with your desktop OS and tying everything into cloud fairly well. I actually prefer over Apple’s or Google’s own solutions.

Nov 17 2019 | 1:01 pm EST The_Passporter

I know I posted in a another thread that you can download Mapquest from the Google Play Store and it works well on the Passport but can be a tad slow to load. I really enjoyed using it and found it to offer multiple routing options.
I recommend giving it a shot.

Nov 17 2019 | 1:21 pm EST bb9900user2018

Chuck gave you some good advice, the guy want to talk to about BB10 is TrumpetTiger.

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Nov 17 2019 | 7:03 pm EST DSturke

Yup, hard to find a buggy whip these days. All things must pass.

I have been so comfortable and dialed in with BB for many years now. I LOVE the Blend and Link functions and the compatibility with Outlook. I am going to miss all that.

Nov 17 2019 | 7:06 pm EST DSturke

Thanks, that is good information to have! I am humming along with BB OS and the M/S functions. If next upgrade is to iOS I hope I can have the same smooth process as I have now.

Nov 17 2019 | 7:29 pm EST Chuck Finley69

I’ve dual carried Android/iOS the last couple years. The best to do is get a new device and familiarize yourself before it’s your only choice. Good luck and keep returning here for help.

Nov 17 2019 | 9:14 pm EST The_Passporter

May I suggest looking at Oneplus brand running Android? I believe the Oneplus 6 was the last model with the headphone jack and LED. Amazing version of Android........unless there is a bigger wider KEY3. The wife keep saying that would be a game changer. )))

Hammered out on my Precious Passport

Nov 18 2019 | 4:23 am EST anon(5597702)

Try this version of Google Maps: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...-14-5-release/

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Nov 18 2019 | 6:36 am EST Emaderton3

Likely will be very slow on a different BB10 device if slow on a Passport. I had to give up using Waze on my Q10 because it couldn't keep up.

But like you said, it may be worth a try.

Nov 18 2019 | 6:38 am EST The_Passporter

I have had Waze on my Passport and I can assure you it's not that slow. That was molasses for sure.

Nov 18 2019 | 6:47 am EST Emaderton3

My point is Passport is superior to ther BB10 phones. So if an app is slow on it, then likely the app may be problematic on another BB10 phone.

Nov 18 2019 | 6:55 am EST Chuck Finley69

Could be a combination of factors though. Any updates to apps still 4.3 and less minimum requirement, still are getting larger and running more processor intensive features.

I used to have this problem with Passport 3-4 years ago so it can only have gotten worse. It’s even a problem with PRIV, DTEK and KEYone when 3/32 model.

When the KEYone first came out, some people complained about 3/32 specs while the majority felt satisfied. I have both 3/32 and 4/64 KEYone and two years later, I notice the difference.

Every update to every app seems to come in heavier and I suppose that’s forever the story of software development and evolution.

Nov 18 2019 | 6:57 am EST The_Passporter

I guess people with lesser BB10 phones will just have to try it to see if it's fast enough for them and if it a viable option to none lol.

Nov 18 2019 | 7:10 am EST Dunt Dunt Dunt

Neither Android nor iOS is tied to "computer" syncing like BlackBerry was... "cloud" syncing is the way the do it. As long as you aren't on an old POP email system you should be fine with either.

I actually had to move on back when BB10 first came out... as they didn't have the contact syncing working in the beginning. Proable another reason BBOS users didn't like it. Did get that feature working in a couple of months...

Nov 18 2019 | 7:15 am EST mikael11

I would suggest you to download Osmand from BBW (before last Dec when BBW close down). It's an older and more lightweight version than the current one on Google play. You can freely download up to ten files (maps, voices) and maps are updated.

Nov 18 2019 | 8:41 am EST anon(5597702)

Though there is a somewhat modest countermovement to this in the form of "lite" versions of certain apps (Facebook, Skype, etc).

More listed here:

https://techlog360.com/best-lite-versions-android-apps/