1. cp2018CB's Avatar
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    (Mods: if there is a more-appropriate Forum section for this topic, would you kindly move my post there? Thank You)

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    Hello, I'm hoping the CrackBerry community can point me toward the most efficient way to achieve my urgent data transfer need: from Bold 9000 (4.6) to Classic (10.3.x).

    I'm reasonably tech savvy, but have some increasing neurological issues which make reading and writing difficult.

    Hence I am humbly requesting your informed guidance about procedure I should follow.

    Due to circumstances, I am currently Mac-only, but can possibly get brief access to a Laptop running Windows 10.

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    1/ Current device and use
    2/ Some context about the situation
    3/ Procedure?
    4/ Available hardware
    5/ Question(s):
    Q1/ Data transfer, Bold 9000 to Classic
    Q2/ Making "safety clones" of Bold 9000 and Classic

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    1/ Current device and use

    Current device:
    - Bold 9000, AT&T
    - v4.6.0.167
    - no 3rd-party apps
    - primary use is phone/SMS&MMS/Contacts; minor use of Calendar/MemoPad
    - backed up regularly using BB Desktop Software for Mac ver 2.4.0 (files are .bbb format)
    - no media card
    - everything in device memory (no storage to SIM)

    The phone has been in constant and reliable use for ~10 years (yay Bold 9000). A few trackball cleanings/surgeries, multiple batteries, but generally OK. However I suspect there appear to be a cascading set of issues concerning both power jack and power inverter circuitry, so it's time for data transfer then retirement. Emphasize that the phone is regularly backed up, but it is essential that I can transfer all data to new phone(s):

    - Messages (SMS & MMS)
    - Contacts (which contain extensive notes)
    - Calendar data
    - Call Logs
    - MemoPad documents
    - Saved Messages (if possible)
    - Settings

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    2/ Some context about the situation

    I am broke, essentially homeless, and somewhat unusually due to being exonerated from a wrongful conviction many years ago, have been involved in a long-running set of civil rights cases, for over a decade. One case is currently at the US Supreme Court. There is a huge amount of info that I need to be able to continue to access, to support the civil rights organizations involved.

    Only for past few years, as my use of SMS/MMS increased, has the Messages setting been "Keep Forever" (ie they will always show in Messages display); before that they were saved in then-current backups, but had eventually rolled off from the active Messages display.

    For reasons of forensic history, it could become important soon to be able to access old Messages. Unless there is some software which would allow me to "read" old backup .bbb files, ie extract old message history; the only way I can think to do this is to have an "extra" Bold 9000 which can be "restored" back to a given point in time using the appropriate .bbb file from my current Bold 9000.

    I have been very wary of a glitch "bricking" my current 9000, so I have not upgraded beyond v4.6.0.167; and I really don't want to temp fate by trying.

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    3/ Procedure?

    I was gifted a Classic, so that will be my new phone.

    From what my aging brain has read, I believe that I can use only BB Desktop SW to perform backups of the v4.6 Bold 9000; and must use BB Link to transfer data directly from a Bold 9000 (v5 or higher) to a Classic (v10.3.x).

    I don't want to risk bricking my current Bold 9000, so I do not want to have to upgrade it from (v4.6). Therefore I believe I must transfer my data from my current Bold 9000 (v4.6) to a Bold 9000 (v5), using BB Desktop SW?

    Or maybe there is a way to skip that step, and somehow transfer the data directly from a BB Desktop SW backup .bbb file (to either a Bold 9000 (v5), or hopefully straight to a Classic (v10.3.x))?

    ---

    4/ Available hardware

    Based on what I understand for the transfer may therefore may need to be a multi-step process involving BB Desktop SW, BB Link, possibly multiple 9000 phones and two generations of 9000 SW (v4 and v5); and to hopefully be able to "clone" and have safety clones of Bold 9000 and Classic; I have managed to acquire several BBs in G/VG/LN condition, so these are the resources I have to work with:

    1/ My current phone, the "source":
    - Bold 9000 (v4.6.0.167) (Platform 4.0.0.217))

    2/ Extra 9000s (if needed for transfer, and later as "safety clones"):
    - Bold 9000 (v4.6.0.304 (Platform 4.0.0.247))
    - Bold 9000 (v5.0.0.1067 (Bundle 1728, Platform 5.2.0.89))

    3/ One of these will be my "new" phone, the other hopefully can be made a "safety clone":
    - Classic SQC100-2 (v10.3.1.841) [ I think a NOS (new old stock) AT&T product ]
    - Classic SQC100-2 (v10.3.3.1463) [ AT&T refurbished ]

    4/ One non-activated SIM card each for Bold 9000 and Classic.

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    5/ Question(s)

    So, my question(s), could those of you with experience advise what you think would be best sequence of actions:

    Q1/ Data transfer, Bold 9000 to Classic:

    Q1.0/ should I upgrade OS on Classic(s) before starting the data transfer project? Checking from each phone says I am running most-recent software... If yes, how best to upgrade to latest AT&T, and I think it can't be done on a Mac (or am I wrong, I hope)?

    Q1.1/ how may I best transfer all data from my current Bold 9000 (4.6) to a Classic (10.3.x)?

    Q1.2/ is there perhaps a way to use a backup .bbb file (made from my current Bold 9000 (v4.6)) as a source for the transfer?

    -

    Q2/ Making "safety clones" of Bold 9000 and Classic

    Q2.1/ Is it possible to make a "safety clone" of my current Bold 9000 (v4.6) by using a backup .bbb file, made from that phone, to restore a different physical phone running either v4 or v5? (I believe this question also covers my need to know if I could "go back in time to look at old Messages" by restoring a different physical Bold 9000 from one of my current phone's .bbb backup files?)

    Q2.2/ Analogously for the Classics, is it possible to make a "safety clone"? (I understand that I could possibly use BB Protect, but that involves cost of a second continuously-active cellular account; wondering if there is a way to make a clone "offline"?)

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    Thank you all so much for reading, I really appreciate your help.

    cp
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    10-31-18 06:33 AM
  2. dubengeldu's Avatar
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    (Mods: if there is a more-appropriate Forum section for this topic, would you kindly move my post there? Thank You)

    ---

    Hello, I'm hoping the CrackBerry community can point me toward the most efficient way to achieve my urgent data transfer need: from Bold 9000 (4.6) to Classic (10.3.x).

    I'm reasonably tech savvy, but have some increasing neurological issues which make reading and writing difficult.

    Hence I am humbly requesting your informed guidance about procedure I should follow.

    Due to circumstances, I am currently Mac-only, but can possibly get brief access to a Laptop running Windows 10.

    ---

    1/ Current device and use
    2/ Some context about the situation
    3/ Procedure?
    4/ Available hardware
    5/ Question(s):
    Q1/ Data transfer, Bold 9000 to Classic
    Q2/ Making "safety clones" of Bold 9000 and Classic

    ---

    1/ Current device and use

    Current device:
    - Bold 9000, AT&T
    - v4.6.0.167
    - no 3rd-party apps
    - primary use is phone/SMS&MMS/Contacts; minor use of Calendar/MemoPad
    - backed up regularly using BB Desktop Software for Mac ver 2.4.0 (files are .bbb format)
    - no media card
    - everything in device memory (no storage to SIM)

    The phone has been in constant and reliable use for ~10 years (yay Bold 9000). A few trackball cleanings/surgeries, multiple batteries, but generally OK. However I suspect there appear to be a cascading set of issues concerning both power jack and power inverter circuitry, so it's time for data transfer then retirement. Emphasize that the phone is regularly backed up, but it is essential that I can transfer all data to new phone(s):

    - Messages (SMS & MMS)
    - Contacts (which contain extensive notes)
    - Calendar data
    - Call Logs
    - MemoPad documents
    - Saved Messages (if possible)
    - Settings

    ---

    2/ Some context about the situation

    I am broke, essentially homeless, and somewhat unusually due to being exonerated from a wrongful conviction many years ago, have been involved in a long-running set of civil rights cases, for over a decade. One case is currently at the US Supreme Court. There is a huge amount of info that I need to be able to continue to access, to support the civil rights organizations involved.

    Only for past few years, as my use of SMS/MMS increased, has the Messages setting been "Keep Forever" (ie they will always show in Messages display); before that they were saved in then-current backups, but had eventually rolled off from the active Messages display.

    For reasons of forensic history, it could become important soon to be able to access old Messages. Unless there is some software which would allow me to "read" old backup .bbb files, ie extract old message history; the only way I can think to do this is to have an "extra" Bold 9000 which can be "restored" back to a given point in time using the appropriate .bbb file from my current Bold 9000.

    I have been very wary of a glitch "bricking" my current 9000, so I have not upgraded beyond v4.6.0.167; and I really don't want to temp fate by trying.

    ---

    3/ Procedure?

    I was gifted a Classic, so that will be my new phone.

    From what my aging brain has read, I believe that I can use only BB Desktop SW to perform backups of the v4.6 Bold 9000; and must use BB Link to transfer data directly from a Bold 9000 (v5 or higher) to a Classic (v10.3.x).

    I don't want to risk bricking my current Bold 9000, so I do not want to have to upgrade it from (v4.6). Therefore I believe I must transfer my data from my current Bold 9000 (v4.6) to a Bold 9000 (v5), using BB Desktop SW?

    Or maybe there is a way to skip that step, and somehow transfer the data directly from a BB Desktop SW backup .bbb file (to either a Bold 9000 (v5), or hopefully straight to a Classic (v10.3.x))?

    ---

    4/ Available hardware

    Based on what I understand for the transfer may therefore may need to be a multi-step process involving BB Desktop SW, BB Link, possibly multiple 9000 phones and two generations of 9000 SW (v4 and v5); and to hopefully be able to "clone" and have safety clones of Bold 9000 and Classic; I have managed to acquire several BBs in G/VG/LN condition, so these are the resources I have to work with:

    1/ My current phone, the "source":
    - Bold 9000 (v4.6.0.167) (Platform 4.0.0.217))

    2/ Extra 9000s (if needed for transfer, and later as "safety clones"):
    - Bold 9000 (v4.6.0.304 (Platform 4.0.0.247))
    - Bold 9000 (v5.0.0.1067 (Bundle 1728, Platform 5.2.0.89))

    3/ One of these will be my "new" phone, the other hopefully can be made a "safety clone":
    - Classic SQC100-2 (v10.3.1.841) [ I think a NOS (new old stock) AT&T product ]
    - Classic SQC100-2 (v10.3.3.1463) [ AT&T refurbished ]

    4/ One non-activated SIM card each for Bold 9000 and Classic.

    ---

    5/ Question(s)

    So, my question(s), could those of you with experience advise what you think would be best sequence of actions:

    Q1/ Data transfer, Bold 9000 to Classic:

    Q1.0/ should I upgrade OS on Classic(s) before starting the data transfer project? Checking from each phone says I am running most-recent software... If yes, how best to upgrade to latest AT&T, and I think it can't be done on a Mac (or am I wrong, I hope)?

    Q1.1/ how may I best transfer all data from my current Bold 9000 (4.6) to a Classic (10.3.x)?

    Q1.2/ is there perhaps a way to use a backup .bbb file (made from my current Bold 9000 (v4.6)) as a source for the transfer?

    -

    Q2/ Making "safety clones" of Bold 9000 and Classic

    Q2.1/ Is it possible to make a "safety clone" of my current Bold 9000 (v4.6) by using a backup .bbb file, made from that phone, to restore a different physical phone running either v4 or v5? (I believe this question also covers my need to know if I could "go back in time to look at old Messages" by restoring a different physical Bold 9000 from one of my current phone's .bbb backup files?)

    Q2.2/ Analogously for the Classics, is it possible to make a "safety clone"? (I understand that I could possibly use BB Protect, but that involves cost of a second continuously-active cellular account; wondering if there is a way to make a clone "offline"?)

    =======

    Thank you all so much for reading, I really appreciate your help.

    cp

    Hello

    I repaired afew bold9000 as student myself and I understand why youlove them.

    Theyare hopelessly obsolete now and thenext best comparing to it is the bold 9900, but eventhat device is discontinued with its bis service



    So the classic has nolonger a replaceable battery needs a

    Nano sim. Ucan let any mobile shop cut your current card to a nano sim probably or you can get a prepaid sim for the classic

    These no longer need the blackberry service fee


    Iprefer and still use my 9900 with bis service outofthe same reasons that fast push blackberry service


    Your backup may be best performed with storing the .bbb backupfile simply onteh classic and use your current freemailer fromthe classic

    itsounds

    So
    Much
    Better
    Than theold bold s

    Yougotta try thecalls
    Butits text featureis mostly advantage




    With the classic itslikethis:


    It supports android apps that show


    (appname).APK
    Sothefile name for apps are APK and these

    UNEED. Android 4.3 or below support inthe app

    Arm chip / 4.3 android/ jellybean APK s


    These Maynot even instantlybe necessarybut you'll see


    It's miles from no apps atall inthe 9000



    The blackberry protect usually stores as backup allyour contacts and sms but ithink not the messages

    Consider activating thatoption



    Isell a top refurbished and brand new battery q20 classic myself rightnow but it's not inthe states so not helpful toyou



    Itsthe best way fornow howiwould keep the bbb files onthe classic


    Maybe uget a better idea



    Posted via CB10
    11-01-18 11:59 AM
  3. dubengeldu's Avatar
    Your freemailer inthe classic google yahoo etc will keepthe emails

    Consider storing your bbb files in a cloud
    So dropbox cloud etc where others may access it ifyouwant to share


    The 9900 is the latest that uses bis service



    Posted via CB10
    11-01-18 12:09 PM

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