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  1. sclikes's Avatar
    I've already used an android phone for the last five years. Now plan to buy a new phone, So my question about Is Blackberry better than iPhone? or Which blackberry phone is best for security?
    02-20-19 07:03 AM
  2. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    BBAndroid just different from regular Android phones in boot up process and hardened kernel. Compared with IOS, again different. Android open ecosystem and IOS closed ecosystem. Google is clamping down on Android but 10+ years won’t change overnight. Biggest vulnerability isn’t the OS but the user downloading free or cheap malicious apps from less reputable sources..
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    02-20-19 07:19 AM
  3. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I've already used an android phone for the last five years. Now plan to buy a new phone, So my question about Is Blackberry better than iPhone? or Which blackberry phone is best for security?
    What is your usage... if you have used an Android for the last five years, not sure how the iPhone would have any advantages (but the do have better hardware than any current BlackBerry... ). For most I know it's the Apple ecosystem that they like.


    Best for Android security... is going to be either the KEY2 or KEY2 LE as they are current and will get security updates longer than any of the others devices out there. There are still BBOS and BB10 powered BlackBerries out there... they are either EOL or soon will be EOL - I'd avoid those without a LOT of research.
    02-20-19 10:38 AM
  4. glwerry's Avatar
    My wife and son/daughter-in-law are Apple fans.
    I have an iPad that I really enjoy and has served me flawlessly for 2 -4 years.

    When it comes to phones, BB Android all the way - I've tried to use my wife's iPhone (5) but the small screen just drives me up the wall.
    I vote Android, but again, that's me.
    02-20-19 01:37 PM
  5. Elephant_Canyon's Avatar
    I've tried to use my wife's iPhone (5) but the small screen just drives me up the wall.
    Well, if your benchmark is a 7-year-old phone, you are absolutely going to be disappointed. That's even older than the BlackBerry Z10.
    02-20-19 02:55 PM
  6. ArnoFR's Avatar
    Blackberry = Keypad / perfect for work / HUB
    iPhone = Screen / Camera / good OS if you have a Mac at home.

    It depends on what you're looking for. BBry is better for some people and iPhone is better for some others.
    02-20-19 03:21 PM
  7. TrumpetTiger's Avatar
    I've already used an android phone for the last five years. Now plan to buy a new phone, So my question about Is Blackberry better than iPhone? or Which blackberry phone is best for security?
    Hey sclikes,

    You will get different opinions on this question based on who you ask here. I would argue that the Blackberry 10 OS, even though it is approaching EOL status, still is more secure than any Android device. With that said, it has some app limitations that it's important to keep in mind, which is important if you need a lot of popular apps or popular mobile games.

    The Blackberry Priv, KEYone, and KEYtwo devices all run a version of Android, which theoretically is more secure than regular Android. However, it would be very similar to your existing Android experience from the past 5 years.

    Honestly you have to think about what is important to you. If app availability is the most important, you would want to go with an iPhone. If privacy and security are most important, and you don't mind the app gap, Blackberry 10 is worth considering. If you'd like the apps but want to have a physical keyboard, Blackberry Android devices like the KEYone or KEYtwo are a possibility.
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    02-20-19 03:26 PM
  8. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    My wife and son/daughter-in-law are Apple fans.
    I have an iPad that I really enjoy and has served me flawlessly for 2 -4 years.

    When it comes to phones, BB Android all the way - I've tried to use my wife's iPhone (5) but the small screen just drives me up the wall.
    I vote Android, but again, that's me.
    iPhone 5....
    02-20-19 04:02 PM
  9. thurask's Avatar
    I've already used an android phone for the last five years. Now plan to buy a new phone, So my question about Is Blackberry better than iPhone? or Which blackberry phone is best for security?
    In terms of security the best BlackBerry phone is the KEY2/KEY2LE; compared to its Android predecessors it still has an Android Pie upgrade waiting in the wings, and it's still new enough to receive monthly patches. BB10 is as secure as a cinderblock, in that it has about the same functionality.

    Compared to the iPhone, however, the iPhone does have an unimpeachable edge in long term security, in that updates are consistent, universal, and don't dry up 12-24 months after release.

    Frankly, whether or not you can get the apps/services you need out of it, whether you can get a good price, and whether your carrier supports the phone are all things to consider before factoring in something as nebulous as mobile security anyway.
    Last edited by howarmat; 02-20-19 at 06:30 PM.
    02-20-19 04:15 PM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    Biggest vulnerability isn’t the OS but the user downloading free or cheap malicious apps from less reputable sources..
    This.
    02-20-19 05:20 PM
  11. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Hey sclikes,

    You will get different opinions on this question based on who you ask here. I would argue that the Blackberry 10 OS, even though it is approaching EOL status, still is more secure than any Android device. With that said, it has some app limitations that it's important to keep in mind, which is important if you need a lot of popular apps or popular mobile games.

    The Blackberry Priv, KEYone, and KEYtwo devices all run a version of Android, which theoretically is more secure than regular Android. However, it would be very similar to your existing Android experience from the past 5 years.

    Honestly you have to think about what is important to you. If app availability is the most important, you would want to go with an iPhone. If privacy and security are most important, and you don't mind the app gap, Blackberry 10 is worth considering. If you'd like the apps but want to have a physical keyboard, Blackberry Android devices like the KEYone or KEYtwo are a possibility.
    theoretically....

    BlackBerry hasn't even bothered to comment on Specter... how many other exploits aren't they commenting on at this point - or won't in the future?

    I'm not a big believer in once secure, always secure.... or that their is safety in irrelevance.

    My "view" is an up to date KEYdevice is more secure. How many people at BlackBerry are still using BB10 devices... do they consider them secure?
    02-21-19 02:29 PM
  12. TrumpetTiger's Avatar
    theoretically....

    BlackBerry hasn't even bothered to comment on Specter... how many other exploits aren't they commenting on at this point - or won't in the future?

    I'm not a big believer in once secure, always secure.... or that their is safety in irrelevance.

    My "view" is an up to date KEYdevice is more secure. How many people at BlackBerry are still using BB10 devices... do they consider them secure?
    Yes, they do. I would suspect that Blackberry Limited folks use iPhones at this point; I doubt very much they use any form of Android device (at least to the extent they're not BYOD, which I have no way of knowing). But whether people use a device does not have any bearing on whether it is secure or private. Millions of people use Android devices which are ridiculously insecure and whose makers have gone on record saying they don't give a damn about user privacy.

    I believe in what the technology proves or allows, and BB10's QNX-based permissions model ensures its security. It's as simple as that.

    You are certainly welcome to your opinion on the KEY devices.

    As for Spectre, this has been proven not to affect Blackberry 10 devices, in part due to the design of the hardware and security of the OS.
    02-21-19 02:38 PM
  13. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    theoretically....

    BlackBerry hasn't even bothered to comment on Specter... how many other exploits aren't they commenting on at this point - or won't in the future?

    I'm not a big believer in once secure, always secure.... or that their is safety in irrelevance.

    My "view" is an up to date KEYdevice is more secure. How many people at BlackBerry are still using BB10 devices... do they consider them secure?
    IMO, BB10.3.3 is very secure when used without the antiquated Android Runtime and with reasonable setting on the native Web browser. Whether a phone with such limited functionality is desirable is up to each user.

    Theoretical vulnerabilities like Spectre are very difficult to exploit in the real world, particularly on a Mobile phone which doesn't keep as many predictable ports open as a PC where a single Web browser sending a timing signal to intercept cached data can be left open for long periods of time.

    One of the big risks of modern phones is the way that apps are never fully closed. This means that any vulnerabilities in the app can be used to extract data over long periods of time.

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    02-21-19 03:07 PM
  14. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar

    One of the big risks of modern phones is the way that apps are never fully closed. This means that any vulnerabilities in the app can be used to extract data over long periods of time.

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    Yeah I really don't like this aspect of Android....

    My Samsung has a Power Monitor feature that allows me to put apps to "sleep"....and to select which apps will always "sleep" unless activated. But to me "sleep" ought to be off.

    Really ought to be some sort of "setup" phase of installing apps... let's you select if an app can run in the background, and explain why it might need to or be useful that way. As well as each permission and why it "might" be needed by the app.

    I also have a few apps that I use only once in a while... that I leave disabled.
    02-21-19 03:49 PM
  15. the_boon's Avatar
    For typing experience and battery life, of course a Berry is better than an iPhone.
    02-21-19 04:07 PM
  16. stevec66's Avatar
    From a personal point it would be a cold day in HELL before I would give Apple one red cent.

    So BlackBerry all the way,
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    02-21-19 06:49 PM
  17. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    From a personal point it would be a cold day in HELL before I would give Apple one red cent.

    So BlackBerry all the way,
    I bet you have already given them one red cent....

    Many companies, including BlackBerry have licensed technology from Apple. But I get you don't want to join the "club" or buy one of their "pricey" devices.

    BlackBerry all the way... more like PKB all the way.
    02-22-19 08:53 AM
  18. thurask's Avatar
    I bet you have already given them one red cent....

    Many companies, including BlackBerry have licensed technology from Apple. But I get you don't want to join the "club" or buy one of their "pricey" devices.

    BlackBerry all the way... more like PKB all the way.
    I'm assuming he doesn't enjoy using CUPS and WebKit and all of their derivatives.
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    02-22-19 09:14 AM
  19. TrumpetTiger's Avatar
    I'm assuming he doesn't enjoy using CUPS and WebKit and all of their derivatives.
    You know what I really love about CB? How we're all respectful of everyone else's opinions, and when we want to tell them something how we do it in a non-sarcastic way.

    Posted via CB10
    02-22-19 11:11 AM
  20. the_boon's Avatar
    You know what I really love about CB? How we're all respectful of everyone else's opinions, and when we want to tell them something how we do it in a non-sarcastic way.

    Posted via CB10
    I see what you did there
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    02-22-19 11:38 AM

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