1. BBRookie2015's Avatar
    BES12...would it benefit a single user who wants extra encryption and security with emails and public wifi? If so, what's the best way to acquire it?
    01-01-15 04:19 PM
  2. Ducca683's Avatar
    Hi there, for the individuals, bes10/12 is not the way to go to ensure encyption or 'more' security. Public wifi is unencrypted, and bes will not help you there either. Bes is designed for device management and will separate 'work' and 'personal' profiles, enable policies and enforce security features. It is designed for enterprises... so I would suggest, if you are still interested, to serch the net for bes features and decide for yourself... I'm not sure if bbry will sell you one (1) license, though...;-). Alternative you might want to explore is use of vpn...Again, interwebs have a lot of articles on this.

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    01-01-15 05:30 PM
  3. BBRookie2015's Avatar
    Any recommendations for VPN for Blackberry. The first two or three companies I looked up don't support Blackberry. I thought with BES I could at least get the VPN...doesn't that make me secure on wifi?
    01-01-15 05:47 PM
  4. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    What would having the BES offer to you for securing your email. Chances are you do not have Exchange running on a private domain. Therefore what ever email service you use would have your emails unencrypted the moment they left your mail box.

    Some people really do not understand where the security flaws are in their usage and thinking.
    01-01-15 05:58 PM
  5. BBRookie2015's Avatar
    Of course I don't understand. That's why I asked the question. I've been told Blackberry is the most secure phone. I guess I need to ask a more basic question: What makes it more secure than iPhone / Android and the others? My thought was that BES offered more encryption, etc. No? Am I as secure without BES as with it? I don't understand all the private domain, hosting, exchange terminology... All I want to know is HOW to get the most secure email, messaging, etc. If BES doesn't secure the email, than what does?
    01-01-15 06:05 PM
  6. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    What has made it a more secure device or platform is that BlackBerry has never caved to making any back doors into a secured device. Apple and android although having the ability to encrypt have never had this as default. As well I feel the nsa's of the world have had ways to get into these devices whereas they have never publicaly admitted to being able to circumvent BlackBerry encryption.

    As for bes, if the bes is attached to exchange or other corporate mail servers it can encrypt those emails, but those emails are also plain text once they leave the out box.

    This is a very simplistic explanation.

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    01-01-15 06:16 PM
  7. BBRookie2015's Avatar
    Sorry about all the questions, but I'm trying to pin down a couple answers. When you say a secured device are you talking about EVERY BB phone? ie. They're all secure because there's no back door into a BB phone.

    As far as BES then... what is the point of encryption if it really is just plain text as soon as I hit send? Or did you mean communication remain encrypted when sent to devices within the corporation's server/company, but they are plain text if sent to someone outside the corporate server.

    Thanks for the previous reply.
    01-01-15 06:24 PM
  8. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    If device encryption is enabled, the device is very secure. There is no means of the average user getting access to the contents, as for nsa, I have not read anything indicating they are able to access this data either.

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    01-01-15 06:35 PM
  9. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    As for bes, it offers other functions as well.

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    01-01-15 06:35 PM
  10. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    There is an app, I don't have the name handy, that can encrypt your message using pgp which you and the receiver would have to share keys. Not sure how it works as I have no need for this functionality to date, but it might be something to look into if message encryption is required.

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    01-01-15 06:38 PM
  11. Joshu42's Avatar
    There is an app, I don't have the name handy, that can encrypt your message using pgp which you and the receiver would have to share keys. Not sure how it works as I have no need for this functionality to date, but it might be something to look into if message encryption is required.
    You spoke of PGpgp, on sales not so long ago... It works.
    01-01-15 06:48 PM
  12. bbz10yes's Avatar
    vpnME available in bbworld
    01-05-15 07:16 AM
  13. bbz10yes's Avatar
    There are some companies offering the container functionality for ios/android and I suppose it will work on bb too.
    Check for
    Good (dot) com
    air-watch
    xen mobile
    as for email encryption, it only works if both you and the recipient use encrypted mail. (e.g. protonmail). public wifi is not advised.
    01-05-15 07:24 AM
  14. rthonpm's Avatar
    For a single user any kind of MDM is overkill since you won't have either the infrastructure or scope to support the service, not to mention the cost.

    The primary logic of BES is to create a network space where the handset is part of a corporate network even when using a carrier network connection. This gives you access to internal network resources and means that internal messages never leave the corporate firewall.

    There are email encryption services like PGP, but they are still poorly implemented and require a few intermediary steps on the part of users, such as requiring the keys of any person that they are exchanging emails with in order to decrypt messages. Internal networks make this easy, but for private individuals it can become quite messy rather quickly.

    A solid VPN service and treating email with care as to what you place in it can go a long way in giving you a better sense of security.

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    01-05-15 07:55 AM
  15. bbz10yes's Avatar
    As a single user with a small enterprise I would be interested in having the container functionality. Is this possible for non BES users?
    For example, when using whatsapp, you also have to grant access to your cloud. When using this in a private container I would be able to put my cloud app in a business container. Correct?
    01-05-15 08:11 AM
  16. bbz10yes's Avatar
    air-watch offers a cloud based MDM solution starting at $51 per year
    01-05-15 09:01 AM
  17. keefrto's Avatar
    So the latest cbc.ca news headlines talks about secure hotel WiFi, I regularly use hotel WiFi but if there was a way of securing my details whilst using I of course will jump on it. I already have my Z30 encrypted.

    On myZ30. Via CB10
    01-07-15 06:37 PM
  18. BCITMike's Avatar
    What has made it a more secure device or platform is that BlackBerry has never caved to making any back doors into a secured device. Apple and android although having the ability to encrypt have never had this as default. As well I feel the nsa's of the world have had ways to get into these devices whereas they have never publicaly admitted to being able to circumvent BlackBerry encryption.

    As for bes, if the bes is attached to exchange or other corporate mail servers it can encrypt those emails, but those emails are also plain text once they leave the out box.

    This is a very simplistic explanation.

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    Source? I don't think its possible to conclusively say this. Many, MANY things have backdoors built into them for RMA/tech/troubleshooting purposes that do not make it evident to the user. I have learned companies will do almost anything for a buck (and/or 'forced' to do).

    I'm NOT saying they have one, I'm just saying its not possible to say it with 100.0% confidence like its the law. Even when Microsoft put in the backdoored NSA key into XP(?), coders working in the group that should have been aware of this didn't know about it.

    To answer the question "What makes it more secure than iPhone / Android and the others?", I would answer that with BlackBerry, security is considered the first and highest priority in the architecture and designed from the ground up with that in mind. They have the experts with the experience. With Android and iOS, they are afterthoughts after providing the feature that was the highest priority. Nothing exposes Apple's security more than the consistent jailbreaks and "goto fail" EPIC bug that shows security is not on level playing fields. Allowing unlimited password attempts into iCloud. Allowing Apple accounts to be socially engineered without providing useful information to regain access. Basically, lots of dropped balls.
    01-07-15 08:27 PM
  19. BCITMike's Avatar
    Anyone try MaaS360 through SpiceWorks? It doesn't list BlackBerry devices, but I think MaaS360 does and might just not be updated on the page yet...

    Free Mobile Device Management Software | MDM Software | Spiceworks
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    01-07-15 08:33 PM
  20. zeeten's Avatar
    Anyone try MaaS360 through SpiceWorks? It doesn't like BlackBerry devices, but I think MaaS360 does and might just not be updated on the page yet...

    Free Mobile Device Management Software | MDM Software | Spiceworks
    MaaS360 is unable to support BlackBerry devices.

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    01-07-15 09:27 PM
  21. opensourceminer's Avatar
    Air watch doesn't work either. $51 per year but setup costs are $800. Not really interesting for single users.
    Good. Com offers container functionality and provides apps for ios and android but not for BlackBerry
    It really amazes me that I, as a single user, cannot seem to find a solution to use the container functionality. It's a BlackBerry thing right?
    Any cloud based solutions for this out there?

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    01-11-15 04:23 AM
  22. johnnyhead's Avatar
    PureVPN works for bb.

    If you're looking for true security begin with your email provider. Not gmail, not any US company (unless you encrypt all of your mails).

    Try some swiss providers, usually they have good privacy policies and are not too fond of governments.

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    01-11-15 04:52 AM
  23. tinochiko's Avatar
    Like said before devices are built with security in mind from the ground up, here are a few examples ;

    Excluding the z30, touchscreens are built with a raised bezel protecting the screen so it doesn't smash easily

    UI also has many options to take security further including ;

    - native Password Keeper with encryption options for back up
    - if you forget your pin you're done, after the 10th try you now have a brand new wiped phone
    - BBM recently got more security conscious features like retracting messages etc.
    - very difficult if not near impossible to download an app with a virus or malware from BlackBerry World and for it to successfully install on your phone, on playstore this is commonplace
    -i believe that certain parts of the phone (bbm, browser) still make use of BlackBerry's servers rather than the networks one
    -little things like picture password
    -micro sd card ability to wipe, oh yeah and security wipe your phone
    -also the option to encrypt all your files and sd card

    Also BlackBerry is built on QNX kernal, which is trusted enough to be used on space rockets, in car systems etc.

    These are just a few that I think, other people who know the OS better will know many more, all of this without BES..

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    01-11-15 06:04 AM
  24. opensourceminer's Avatar
    Protonmail. Ch
    VpnMe
    But as said, looking to use the container functionality...

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    01-11-15 06:09 AM
  25. lasouthern's Avatar
    I have TorGuard VPN and they can be used on BlackBerry. I have it set up fine. it's IKEv2

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    02-08-15 04:15 PM

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