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- Individuals wouldn't be nearly enough - you would need buy-in and financial support from a bunch of big tech companies, and your vetting process would need outside review and certification.
Then, what happens to this company if threats make it past your screening? Can you guarantee perfection? if not, how many breeches before customers lose faith? What if Google copies your process?
And most of all, how does this company become profitable?03-29-20 05:19 PMLike 0 - Apple or Android. Vet your own apps, or vet them for those on your EMM.
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03-29-20 06:46 PMLike 0 -
1.) An identity provider, adopted and agreed upon by all the users of your system.
2.) A crypto scheme that allows you to protect content with users or groups or trees of users and groups (already provided by every OS, even including hardware key mgmt)
3.) a partner or investor(s) who can help you get to enough scale with both content creators and consumers to make this have a real impact.
That’s it. You don’t need a new OS (or an old OS).03-29-20 07:29 PMLike 0 -
If you want the kind of privacy you're alluding to, BB10 brings nothing new to the table.
You need to build policies and procedures at the app level. Better to use a platform that is ubiquitous and supported.03-29-20 08:17 PMLike 0 - To build the DRM system you want you need 3 things:
1.) An identity provider, adopted and agreed upon by all the users of your system.
2.) A crypto scheme that allows you to protect content with users or groups or trees of users and groups (already provided by every OS, even including hardware key mgmt)
3.) a partner or investor(s) who can help you get to enough scale with both content creators and consumers to make this have a real impact.
That’s it. You don’t need a new OS (or an old OS).
Thanks.03-30-20 01:32 AMLike 0 -
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I would spend $100 for the OS if the native browser is updated and the Dalvik based Android Player would be replaced with at least Android 4.4. I may even consider it if Android remains at 4.3, if in-app purchases on BlackBerry World would be re-enabled; a much smaller investment and the Android update could be dependent on customer purchase numbers. I would switch to an OS subscription if there was work being made to upgrade Android support to Android 9 or whatever version Amazon will be supporting in its devices when the work is completed. This autoloader could add a phone (more "sticky" than any other Amazon device) to Amazon's "ecosystem" while making the phone more privacy protected (needed because it is more "stcky") than the FireTV, etc.
With your answer maybe we could start an informal survey under the BB10 Forum. This is really about funding a work in progress.Last edited by DonHB; 04-26-20 at 04:57 PM.
04-26-20 04:46 PMLike 0 - It’s like the age-old question of how many apps do you need to have in your app store? Everyone can only think of a couple dozen of their own must-haves but then everyone’s list is different. So, it turns out you need tens of thousands. Everyone’s all aboard on the basics but when it comes time to coughing up the funds they suddenly have their conditions.
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04-27-20 08:09 AMLike 0 - Let's start with you. What would get you to buy a Samsung phone (with Knox) and a BB10 autoloader (software features etc.)? How much would you pay to be able to replace Android with BB10?
I would spend $100 for the OS if the native browser is updated and the Dalvik based Android Player would be replaced with at least Android 4.4. I may even consider it if Android remains at 4.3, if in-app purchases on BlackBerry World would be re-enabled; a much smaller investment and the Android update could be dependent on customer purchase numbers. I would switch to an OS subscription if there was work being made to upgrade Android support to Android 9 or whatever version Amazon will be supporting in its devices when the work is completed. This autoloader could add a phone (more "sticky" than any other Amazon device) to Amazon's "ecosystem" while making the phone more privacy protected (needed because it is more "stcky") than the FireTV, etc.
With your answer maybe we could start an informal survey under the BB10 Forum. This is really about funding a work in progress.
But there is no work in progress... BB10 developers are gone for the most part, might be a few that have been transferred to other areas at BlackBerry. But not the numbers needed for what you want.
I've still haven't seen any real interest in your proposal. Do you ever do a poll? Why not see how many "votes" you can get for $100.
Or better yet, set up a Crowd Funding site yet? And see how much cash you can raise towards your goal.04-27-20 09:14 AMLike 0 - Work on what? And by whom?
You're talking about proprietary systems and software from BlackBerry and Samsung. And neither is going to give up a darned thing for this idea.
I love BB10... been using it since 2013. I have a Samsung Galaxy S9 now. It serves its purpose, and having added the Hub+ apps and the BB virtual keyboard (and using the Nova Launcher instead of stock or the BB launcher), I'm happy with it. I certainly wouldn't pay another red cent on a working device - much less another 100 dollars for no real world every-day benefit - that's just crazy talk.04-27-20 10:33 AMLike 0 - Work on what? And by whom?
You're talking about proprietary systems and software from BlackBerry and Samsung. And neither is going to give up a darned thing for this idea.
I love BB10... been using it since 2013. I have a Samsung Galaxy S9 now. It serves its purpose, and having added the Hub+ apps and the BB virtual keyboard (and using the Nova Launcher instead of stock or the BB launcher), I'm happy with it. I certainly wouldn't pay another red cent on a working device - much less another 100 dollars for no real world every-day benefit - that's just crazy talk.
Once that happens, the users will be asked for $100s or $1000s more to get a deliverable in a couple of years.04-27-20 11:57 AMLike 0 - I guess I should have written "restart a work in progress." The point is that over time and with customer funding, privacy issues prevalent in iOS and Android could be addressed. The other is that with a smaller customer base focused on privacy, this base can more easily drive future development direction. This latter idea is a conceptual stumbling block for BlackBerry which has never been very customer/potential customer oriented. The other thing to emphasize is that the product cycle could be two to three times as long than with the duopoly's products. We will not get true privacy innovations for a while, but it will not be worse than what we have now.
The idea is similar to crowd funding, but with a "pay-it-backward & forward" twist. The key question is: How minimalist can changes in BB10 functionality be that would attract buy-in? I indicated what I would want above.04-27-20 08:16 PMLike 0 -
Neither requires BB10 in any way. It only makes things even harder and more expensive.Last edited by conite; 04-29-20 at 06:18 PM.
04-28-20 09:40 AMLike 0 - Let's start with you. What would get you to buy a Samsung phone (with Knox) and a BB10 autoloader (software features etc.)? How much would you pay to be able to replace Android with BB10?
With your answer maybe we could start an informal survey under the BB10 Forum. This is really about funding a work in progress.04-28-20 12:52 PMLike 0 - I guess I should have written "restart a work in progress." The point is that over time and with customer funding, privacy issues prevalent in iOS and Android could be addressed. The other is that with a smaller customer base focused on privacy, this base can more easily drive future development direction. This latter idea is a conceptual stumbling block for BlackBerry which has never been very customer/potential customer oriented. The other thing to emphasize is that the product cycle could be two to three times as long than with the duopoly's products. We will not get true privacy innovations for a while, but it will not be worse than what we have now.
The idea is similar to crowd funding, but with a "pay-it-backward & forward" twist. The key question is: How minimalist can changes in BB10 functionality be that would attract buy-in? I indicated what I would want above.04-28-20 08:14 PMLike 0 - I guess I should have written "restart a work in progress." The point is that over time and with customer funding, privacy issues prevalent in iOS and Android could be addressed. The other is that with a smaller customer base focused on privacy, this base can more easily drive future development direction. This latter idea is a conceptual stumbling block for BlackBerry which has never been very customer/potential customer oriented. The other thing to emphasize is that the product cycle could be two to three times as long than with the duopoly's products. We will not get true privacy innovations for a while, but it will not be worse than what we have now.
The idea is similar to crowd funding, but with a "pay-it-backward & forward" twist. The key question is: How minimalist can changes in BB10 functionality be that would attract buy-in? I indicated what I would want above.04-29-20 11:12 AMLike 0 -
I have been proposing that a product be offered which DOES NOT YET fully deliver on privacy, but the offering delivers some of what people want with the promise of continued development which will, over time, address the problem. In return for supporting development you will get this product WHEN you pay. The product I would accept in return for my dollars is a mildly revamped BB10.
Also, the issue of privacy is not limited to phones. So, using an embedded OS makes sense. It would be good to have the same level of privacy delivered in I/EoT too. 7.x, as with prior versions, have the features of Linux. So, it can also be made to fit the desktop again.04-29-20 05:17 PMLike 0 - I don't get why he keeps posting his 'well thought out' plans for a new super secure phone on a public forum. If he really believes there is a market, he should write a business plan and start rounding up investors. Once he has a decent investment committed and pledges for additional investment, he should enter into negotiations with BlackBerry to license the technology he needs for his project. If he succeeds he will have the pleasure of saying I told you so to all of his detractors.04-29-20 07:21 PMLike 0
- I don't get why he keeps posting his 'well thought out' plans for a new super secure phone on a public forum. If he really believes there is a market, he should write a business plan and start rounding up investors. Once he has a decent investment committed and pledges for additional investment, he should enter into negotiations with BlackBerry to license the technology he needs for his project. If he succeeds he will have the pleasure of saying I told you so to all of his detractors.
Problem with CrackBerry is the naysayers or more "vocal" than aye sayers. Probably this is due to the overt criticism of anything pro BB10.04-29-20 07:41 PMLike 0 - Because BlackBerry is best positioned to execute this. The issue is financing and clearly the people who have answered this thread have no interest in funding an OS to address privacy issues even if it could have applicability to E/IoT.
Problem with CrackBerry is the naysayers or more "vocal" than aye sayers.
It’s like when there’s a Facebook scandal or some different privacy or identity breach. Everyone feigns concern but actual consumer behavior continues as previous or if slight variation, returns to statistical norm shortly thereafter.04-29-20 07:47 PMLike 0
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