06-09-14 01:39 PM
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  1. skibnik's Avatar
    I like what he had to say though he is stretching it a bit claiming 98% compatibility lol

    BlackBerry 10 Capable of Running 98% of All Android Apps |

    Z30 and loving it!
    05-19-14 02:14 PM
  2. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    I'm assuming he's referring to 10.3 compatibility.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    05-19-14 02:16 PM
  3. vinniesworld's Avatar
    I think what's more baffling is the fact he's saying you can buy a BlackBerry because of it - Wait, I'd buy a BlackBerry because of it's Android support hmm. Me thinks he did make a booboo lol

    Having said that 10.3.0.296 with the Android 4.3 Runtime .442 bars runs a fair few now that it couldn't on the old Android runtime even without any Google Play Services to 'patch in'
    05-19-14 02:19 PM
  4. vinniesworld's Avatar
    I'm assuming he's referring to 10.3 compatibility.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    He is indeed
    05-19-14 02:19 PM
  5. nuff_said's Avatar
    So are we safe to say the 2% of apps which aren't working require GPS? If yes that would mean some of the top apps most consumers "want". What about getting these apps for future customers? Will there be a snap option in BlackBerry World?
    05-19-14 02:25 PM
  6. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    So are we safe to say the 2% of apps which aren't working require GPS? If yes that would mean some of the top apps most consumers "want". What about getting these apps for future customers? Will there be a snap option in BlackBerry World?

    No, some actually check Google Services for licensing or authorization. I know of 1 in particular, VNC Viewer, pisses me off, mind you at 1 time it actually worked so it was communicating to the Google Services correctly then blocked. I think it may have been 1 of the Unlocked runtimes.
    05-19-14 04:09 PM
  7. Thunderbuck's Avatar
    So are we safe to say the 2% of apps which aren't working require GPS? If yes that would mean some of the top apps most consumers "want". What about getting these apps for future customers? Will there be a snap option in BlackBerry World?
    Lots of GPS Android apps run just fine on BB10. The biggest problem is apps that won't run without Google Play Services, though there aren't many outside Google's own apps that absolutely won't run without them.

    Posted from CB10 running on my awesome Z30 2B6927F7
    05-19-14 06:55 PM
  8. nuff_said's Avatar
    Lots of GPS Android apps run just fine on BB10. The biggest problem is apps that won't run without Google Play Services, though there aren't many outside Google's own apps that absolutely won't run without them.

    Posted from CB10 running on my awesome Z30 2B6927F7
    You know i just thought of something. What about apps which need to install additional files (.obb). Wonder if this is included in the 98%.
    05-19-14 07:20 PM
  9. lnichols's Avatar
    I'm assuming he's referring to 10.3 compatibility.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    10.3 isn't officially out, and won't be coming to the devices out now as they will be going to 10.3.1. So his statement would be false if he is using that as the qualifier.

    Posted with a BlackBerry Z10
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    05-19-14 08:15 PM
  10. Phi Nguyen's Avatar
    Lots of GPS Android apps run just fine on BB10. The biggest problem is apps that won't run without Google Play Services, though there aren't many outside Google's own apps that absolutely won't run without them.

    Posted from CB10 running on my awesome Z30 2B6927F7
    Important ones like ms office or Adobe Photoshop
    Games that require play game services for matchmaking leader boards
    I find his statement funny android phones strength isnt in their phones which bbry has bbry phones are built good too lol wow I never thought allimun or leather was lower quality then plastic
    I guess he forgot that ecosystem doesn't work without hardware lol
    Posted via CrackBerry App
    05-19-14 09:13 PM
  11. lawguyman's Avatar
    Important ones like ms office or Adobe Photoshop
    Games that require play game services for matchmaking leader boards
    I find his statement funny android phones strength isnt in their phones which bbry has bbry phones are built good too lol wow I never thought allimun or leather was lower quality then plastic
    I guess he forgot that ecosystem doesn't work without hardware lol
    Posted via CrackBerry App
    Get Photoshop from Amazon. It works.


    John Chen said 98% of android apps work on BB10-img_20140520_113029.png

    Amazon has versions of many apps without Play Services.

    Posted via CB10
    05-20-14 10:31 AM
  12. kfh227's Avatar
    An internal build of 10.3 might do it.

    This is also automated I am sure so results depend on test harness quality.


    Posted via CB10
    05-20-14 01:33 PM
  13. app_Developer's Avatar
    Games that require play game services for matchmaking leader boards
    I assume to get to 98% you would say if the game works, except for leaderboards, then it counts as "working".

    In other words, I doubt 98% of apps work 100% completely.


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    05-20-14 01:38 PM
  14. NinjaB's Avatar
    I think what's more baffling is the fact he's saying you can buy a BlackBerry because of it - Wait, I'd buy a BlackBerry because of it's Android support hmm. Me thinks he did make a booboo lol
    that's not exactly what he said as that wasn't his end-all answer or even his first one to the question.. he said Android isn't really the strength of BlackBerry, goes on to mention numbers BB-features and then in reference to app support he comes back to it supports 98% of Android apps.. I actually thought it was a solid dance-around for that question lol...

    10.3 isn't officially out, and won't be coming to the devices out now as they will be going to 10.3.1. So his statement would be false if he is using that as the qualifier.
    in the interview he was talking specifically about the "road ahead", so it's very valid.
    05-20-14 01:46 PM
  15. Chiksatty's Avatar
    So, what about games like Dead Trigger 2, or Plants vs Zombies 2, which require Google Play Services? Would they work in 10.3.1?

    Posted via CB10
    05-20-14 03:10 PM
  16. Ment's Avatar
    So, what about games like Dead Trigger 2, or Plants vs Zombies 2, which require Google Play Services? Would they work in 10.3.1?

    Posted via CB10
    No they won't. That is why the 98% is a canard. Even if it was true its certainly not 98% of the top 500 apps.
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    05-20-14 03:19 PM
  17. Chiksatty's Avatar
    I hope BlackBerry starts supporting Google Play Services soon.

    Posted via CB10
    05-20-14 03:27 PM
  18. Phi Nguyen's Avatar
    Get Photoshop from Amazon. It works.


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    Amazon has versions of many apps without Play Services.

    Posted via CB10
    Hate to break It to You but That will be broken ver y soon you didnt read the change Notes on 10.3did you?

    Adobe photoshop doesnt require Google services at all
    Its they Dont Develop for bbry
    And Hate to break It to You but bbry canceled air supports which photoshop needs

    Posted via CrackBerry App
    05-20-14 03:47 PM
  19. lawguyman's Avatar
    Hate to break It to You but That will be broken ver y soon you didnt read the change Notes on 10.3did you?

    Adobe photoshop doesnt require Google services at all
    Its they Dont Develop for bbry
    And Hate to break It to You but bbry canceled air supports which photoshop needs

    Posted via CrackBerry App
    This is an Android app and will not be affected by 10.3.1 changes to Air support.

    You can buy Adobe Photoshop Touch too if you want.

    The real point is that the issue isn't really compatibility anymore. There are still some performance issues and I'm hoping they will be resolved.




    Posted via CB10
    05-20-14 04:25 PM
  20. Rafael Angeles's Avatar
    2% is still big, i have some apps that i need and want but its not working on 10.3

    Posted via My Awesome Z10
    05-21-14 11:37 AM
  21. PostMortem's Avatar
    Regardless of what percent of whatever app functionality percentage works, I am experiencing more apps working with more functionality in every update.

    Let's not forget how old this system is. If things go the way Chen plans, in two years, BB10 is going to be a force to be reckoned with. Even if only it's users know about it.

    Posted via CB10
    05-21-14 01:15 PM
  22. koebi90's Avatar
    He must refer to the all touch devices! On the 1:1 screen like Q5 or Q10 maybe 25% run...

    Posted on CB 10 and typed on the best Keyboard ever
    05-21-14 01:24 PM
  23. kbz1960's Avatar
    The 2% that don't are the ones people want.
    05-21-14 01:35 PM
  24. Omnitech's Avatar
    I hope BlackBerry starts supporting Google Play Services soon.

    I don't.

    Don't need any more Google tentacles in my BlackBerry than there already is.

    There's several good reasons why I use BlackBerry and will not touch a stock Android device as my personal smartphone, and that's one of them.

    I don't need 100% Googleplex compatibility.
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    05-21-14 03:45 PM
  25. Thunderbuck's Avatar
    So, what about games like Dead Trigger 2, or Plants vs Zombies 2, which require Google Play Services? Would they work in 10.3.1?

    Posted via CB10
    There can be more than one Android version. If they've made it available on the Amazon store, for instance, it can't depend on Google Play Services either.

    Bear in mind that there have been tens of millions of Android phones sold that aren't compatible with Google Play Services.

    Posted from CB10 running on my awesome Z30 2B6927F7
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    05-26-14 09:55 PM
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