1. jorgkbzas's Avatar
    Well i was reading all the problems the company its up 2 here in Crackberry , and i was thinking that are many users , really hoping that blackberry do the ave phoenix reborn more string than before when the were the leaders on the market,
    i name the thread DIRECT SELLING , because blackberry have one potencial they have alot of loyal costumers thatt really want and wish their succes , because this means more innovation in software and better hardware. also the security that for me its the most important. my privacity , i just want to fell secure , iam no the president or something like that but i see the biggest potencial there. base on those and many other arguments i want to post my firt post , trying to help and here its my solution , (you allhave to know that if we make at least 1.000 positive reply iam sending this to the heins somehow..
    sorry about my ingles iam from Ecuador , but pls focus on the idea.

    direct selling using the fans of the brand potencial. 4 example like avon like herballife but in a diferent way more aplied to the smarphone market

    if a want a free blackberry z10 q10 Z30 etc.. i have to sell 10 devices same model , simple as that.... i know i can sell ten blackberrys ,also i can make some revenue since they have to give you a distributor price. i know a lot of will do this to support the company via recomendation. the one you gey free its the red one , so people know you are are a dealer , the other devices 5 blacks 5 whites

    imagine all the people that will get it , i call it recomendation in action . i get my pearl almost the same way , i was i a party and i was using a nokia and a friend show me the potencial of the phone and buy one the next day. the recomendation its the most powerfull tool better than tv radio etc. direct selling 4 its a solution , maybe a crazy but here its mine if you have one better , here its the place

    @bblatino
    @jorgkbzas
    08-15-13 04:59 PM
  2. potatoguy's Avatar
    id like to see them sell from their website, unlocked.
    gg22 and scrapmetal58 like this.
    08-15-13 05:04 PM
  3. diegonei's Avatar
    id like to see them sell from their website, unlocked.
    You see, they did this here in Brasil.

    Unlocked Z10s for... Let's see... R$ 2499,90... Ratio is around 2-1... $1249.95.

    The tech blogs around here didn't take it too kindly.
    08-15-13 05:06 PM
  4. m1kr0's Avatar
    Direct selling can and will work. Not in all countries and cultures though, but definitely in some countries. I will convince ten people to buy BlackBerry (going will be tough) if I can get a Z30.
    diegonei likes this.
    08-15-13 05:08 PM
  5. diegonei's Avatar
    Direct selling can and will work. Not in all countries and cultures though, but definitely in some countries. I will convince ten people to buy BlackBerry (going will be tough) if I can get a Z30.
    It has potential to work anywhere, I gather... Should pricing and marketing be executed properly.

    Not exactly the case I saw here.

    I also agree with the second part of your post. Not ONE PERSON said anything bad about my Z10. From diehard android users to evangelist iOS peopel. If only the pricing and marketing had been given better thought down here, the streets would be filled with Z10s.

    Soon we'll see the 9720 launch here in Brasil. I was hoping the Q5 would get better treatment, but that is probably not going to happen either.
    m1kr0 likes this.
    08-15-13 05:12 PM
  6. geoffsdad's Avatar
    Multi level marketing or Pyramid schemes only work for those that get on board at the beginning. They usually Don't do all that well anyway. I seriously cannot see any mobile device being successful

    Posted via CB10 on my Z10 featuring BBM Channel C0002FE04
    08-15-13 05:16 PM
  7. diegonei's Avatar
    Multi level marketing or Pyramid schemes only work for those that get on board at the beginning. They usually Don't do all that well anyway. I seriously cannot see any mobile device being successful

    Posted via CB10 on my Z10 featuring BBM Channel C0002FE04
    I was talking about direct selling through the website. Pyrmids schemes are a crime pretty much everywhere now lol.

    And OP, welcome to the forums!
    jorgkbzas likes this.
    08-15-13 05:19 PM
  8. RECOOL's Avatar
    BB stilll playing kiss *** to carriers for no reason.These are the same guys that wont promote BB devices thoroughly.F them you have a hardware division you dont have retail shops around start selling your devices got to cover your own back first and foremost.Aint no body out here to look after BB.

    This needs to be done special order 2-3 weeks.Many would pay for 10inch PB with BB10 if you get special orders in.Bypass Media hate bypass begging shops.

    Its time BB make use of your hardware division.BB dont have retail shops you wont have to rely on mass media keep your niche userbase focused on BB10.This **** is a no brainer people would'nt mind waiting 2 weeks for an awesome device..Time to start putting pressure on these carriers.
    vaioman likes this.
    08-15-13 06:31 PM
  9. diegonei's Avatar
    BB stilll playing kiss *** to carriers for no reason.These are the same guys that wont promote BB devices thoroughly.F them you have a hardware division you dont have retail shops around start selling your devices got to cover your own back first and foremost.Aint no body out here to look after BB.

    This needs to be done special order 2-3 weeks.Many would pay for 10inch PB with BB10 if you get special orders in.Bypass Media hate bypass begging shops.

    Its time BB make use of your hardware division.BB dont have retail shops you wont have to rely on mass media keep your niche userbase focused on BB10.This **** is a no brainer people would'nt mind waiting 2 weeks for an awesome device..Time to start putting pressure on these carriers.
    I'd love to see shops, but think about it from a business point of view:

    • Location;
    • Rental;
    • Staff;
    • Marketing (lol);
    • Electricity;
    • Supply chain

    Each store opened would amount to a huge bill and a lot of extra management. Web stores work a lot better.

    The main problem really is pricing. Take Brasil for example. The Z10 is just too bloody expensive to compete if you don't get it on a contract. If BlackBerry sells it, you lose carrier subsidy and has to sell the device at full price. $1200 for a phone?

    Not everyone is as crazy as I am.
    08-15-13 07:18 PM
  10. FlashFlare11's Avatar
    I'd love to see BlackBerry sell directly to its customers from its website. If they did that, I'd never buy another device from AT&T or any other carrier. I don't understand why BlackBerry feels the need to service the carriers when it seems that they really don't care one way or another about BlackBerry's success, especially here in the States.

    Really, the four major American carriers have done more damage to BlackBerry than good through the OS they shipped the devices with, the lack of prompt software updates, the blocking of various services and features, and their refusal to push BlackBerry devices. I know that the last point is more on BlackBerry, but if BlackBerry is bending down to the carriers so much, it should expect something in return.

    I say that BlackBerry should stop relying on the carriers because so far with BlackBerry 10, they have been of no help. BlackBerry should decide its own fate and market and sell directly to its customers. It should begin to release OS updates on its own schedule and release devices on its own watch. It should stop relying on the carriers to market its devices and do the marketing itself.

    Honestly, if BlackBerry's time is nearing a close, it should be the maker of its own destiny and leave nothing in the air. If BlackBerry wants to succeed on its own, it should stop looking to others to help, because those other entities aren't looking to help. BlackBerry should make or break its own future on its own.

    Posted via CB10
    08-15-13 08:34 PM
  11. potatoguy's Avatar
    they shouldnt need stores to sell, directly from Waterloo or wherever they have an exsisting building. As far as warranty goes, i'm sure the carriers would do it as they do now , so they could make money . maybe not, but then send it back to BB. Updates would come directly from BB.
    08-16-13 08:37 AM
  12. OutWithEric's Avatar
    Love it!

    Posted via CB10
    jorgkbzas likes this.
    08-16-13 08:44 AM
  13. jorgkbzas's Avatar
    If you are so good why don't you buy BlackBerry?

    BlackBerry World - Photorate FREE
    Some day.. i will, i dont have the money , yet...

    but if you are so bad , why you dont buy a life ?
    08-16-13 11:08 AM
  14. BBThemes's Avatar
    I'd love to see shops, but think about it from a business point of view:

    • Location;
    • Rental;
    • Staff;
    • Marketing (lol);
    • Electricity;
    • Supply chain

    Each store opened would amount to a huge bill and a lot of extra management. Web stores work a lot better.

    The main problem really is pricing. Take Brasil for example. The Z10 is just too bloody expensive to compete if you don't get it on a contract. If BlackBerry sells it, you lose carrier subsidy and has to sell the device at full price. $1200 for a phone?

    Not everyone is as crazy as I am.
    while your right, could they not have gone the franchise route with their stores? it wouldn't work now, but when BlackBerry had a good rep, it would of been a potentially viable idea
    08-16-13 11:13 AM
  15. jorgkbzas's Avatar
    BlackBerry should work with Solavei!



    Posted via CB10
    Interesting i just see all videos , Solavei | How Solavei Membership Works they repeat something i mention also they explain they are saving money on marketing , and making people go and sale and recomend.
    08-16-13 11:21 AM
  16. guygardner73's Avatar
    Some day.. i will, i dont have the money , yet...

    but if you are so bad , why you dont buy a life ?
    Sha zing!

    Straight in the nuts.

    Z10STL100-2/10.1.0.4633 O2 Uk
    jorgkbzas likes this.
    08-16-13 02:06 PM
  17. IqWaN's Avatar
    the best, i have had this idea too... Let's Sell Like HeLL
    08-16-13 03:33 PM
  18. RECOOL's Avatar
    I'd love to see shops, but think about it from a business point of view:

    • Location;
    • Rental;
    • Staff;
    • Marketing (lol);
    • Electricity;
    • Supply chain

    Each store opened would amount to a huge bill and a lot of extra management. Web stores work a lot better.

    The main problem really is pricing. Take Brasil for example. The Z10 is just too bloody expensive to compete if you don't get it on a contract. If BlackBerry sells it, you lose carrier subsidy and has to sell the device at full price. $1200 for a phone?

    Not everyone is as crazy as I am.
    shops are mid 2000 stuff.Online presense is huge dropship home delivery is in.They dont need a shop when they have hardware division and factorys?? All they need to do is special order from their factory.
    08-16-13 07:04 PM
  19. timmy t's Avatar
    They should ship it anywhere in the world for the same price, unlocked, only differing by duty charges and taxes.
    If the BestBuys of the world don't want to sell them, bypass them.
    08-17-13 03:07 PM
  20. GadgetTravel's Avatar
    The problem is people don't want to buy them at current prices.


    Here is one thought, however. Apple has been scrupulous about keeping anything in terms of an app that resembles adult or erotic material out of the iTunes store. That is still the case. And there is the great song from the play, Avenue Q; "The internet is for porn". Just saying.........
    08-17-13 03:39 PM
  21. ranzabar's Avatar
    The problem with this is the carriers would not tap into the income stream. They are all holding the cards. You can't get Verizon to let you onto their network without their marketing the phone.
    08-18-13 12:11 AM
  22. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    Personally, I like the idea of direct selling by BB/RIM. Once the Radio files are finalized, they can be put aside and updated every year through the carriers. Leaving BB/RIM to update their OS on their time frame.

    As for the carriers making $$$, once the person purchases their device any income is profit, very much like a prepaid service, it would actually have very little to no effect on the bottom line.

    It was mentioned in an earlier post that it would not work too well in various countries. I can name 2 right off the bat, US and Canada. For way too long we were always sheltered from the high cost by the carrier subsidies; that is slowly being corrected in Canada though. More BYOD being offered and with Flex Tab now it makes upgrading easier. Just finish paying off the device balance then upgrade.

    Holy heck, I am all over the place on this. But I do think direct selling would be a great idea.
    08-18-13 09:45 AM

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