BlackBerry should allow every android app to be ported
- If the developer of the app wants to port it for BlackBerry, the only thing that's stopping them is themselves. BlackBerry isn't stopping them.
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But to clarify, OP, I am sure BBRY would love every app to be ported. it just isn't that simple.richardat likes this.10-15-13 01:43 PMLike 1 - That's like me allowing you to own every Ferrari ever made. It's just not within my powers to do that, just like it's not within Blackberry's power to port every Android app.
Posted from my RIM 850 wireless handheld10-15-13 02:12 PMLike 0 - Must commend BlackBerry's foresight in anticipating the app gap by implementing the android runtime to make life so very easy for devs to make their apps available for BlackBerry. Look at how well the flip board app works on the Z30 for example. Porting Instagram for example wouldn't take more than a few hours work judging by how well it works sideloaded. Unfortunately the devs are just not doing so. I think the devs have been told not to give their support to BlackBerry to support their local industry (meaning apple and google)
Posted via CB1010-15-13 02:13 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesMust commend BlackBerry's foresight in anticipating the app gap by implementing the android runtime to make life so very easy for devs to make their apps available for BlackBerry. Look at how well the flip board app works on the Z30 for example. Porting Instagram for example wouldn't take more than a few hours work judging by how well it works sideloaded. Unfortunately the devs are just not doing so. I think the devs have been told not to give their support to BlackBerry to support their local industry (meaning apple and google)
I think it's simpler: the ROI isn't there.spacemanspork likes this.10-15-13 02:24 PMLike 1 -
I think it would be completely negligible.
Flip board for example didn't even take the time to sort out the Instagram account login keyboard incompatibility which proves that they didn't even spend time testing it.
I had to cut and paste my login detail to add my account but since it was a 1 time thing it was pretty painless.
And since we're so app deprived that days work by a single developer would result in at least 2 million added users.
Posted via CB1010-15-13 02:53 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesConsidering again how well most sideloaded apps work. How much investment do you think it would take to port an app to bb10?
I think it would be completely negligible.
Flip board for example didn't even take the time to sort out the Instagram account login keyboard incompatibility which proves that they didn't even spend time testing it.
I had to cut and paste my login detail to add my account but since it was a 1 time thing it was pretty painless.
And since we're so app deprived that days work by a single developer would result in at least 2 million added users.
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Development and maintenance costs money. Developers have to decide if they want to create and maintain an app on a newish platform, or spend those resources polishing up apps on platforms already yielding returns.CairnsRock and bp3dots like this.10-15-13 03:17 PMLike 2 - If it was so negligible, and returns so guaranteed, we'd ask be doing it.
Development and maintenance costs money. Developers have to decide if they want to create and maintain an app on a newish platform, or spend those resources polishing up apps on platforms already yielding returns.
Waze for example has just been left there without updates since Google bought them. I'm pretty sure there's already more than a million Waze BlackBerry downloads.
Posted via CB1010-15-13 03:57 PMLike 0 - I know android apps are not native but I would rather have them than none. I like BlackBerry 10 for the hub ect. If BlackBerry got more apps people would opt for the devices and then they can start getting there own apps because they would have the support
Posted via CB1010-15-13 04:43 PMLike 0 - I know android apps are not native but I would rather have them than none. I like BlackBerry 10 for the hub ect. If BlackBerry got more apps people would opt for the devices and then they can start getting there own apps because they would have the support
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"If you can't soar with the eagles, then don't fly with the flock!" (BBM#18)10-15-13 05:23 PMLike 0 - I know android apps are not native but I would rather have them than none. I like BlackBerry 10 for the hub ect. If BlackBerry got more apps people would opt for the devices and then they can start getting there own apps because they would have the support
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It's the android app developers who have chosen to pass up the opportunity.
Again, BlackBerry isn't stopping them. The developers just don't want to port.
The most famous ones are apps like Instagram and Netflix. BlackBerry have pleaded with them, even offering to write the apps themselves. Those companies just don't want their apps on BlackBerry.
Posted via CB1010-15-13 05:28 PMLike 0 - Some have already mentioned this, but maybe you missed it. BlackBerry would love to have all apps ported. They have provided all the tools necessary.
It's the android app developers who have chosen to pass up the opportunity.
Again, BlackBerry isn't stopping them. The developers just don't want to port.
The most famous ones are apps like Instagram and Netflix. BlackBerry have pleaded with them, even offering to write the apps themselves. Those companies just don't want their apps on BlackBerry.
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I agree that devs just don't want their apps on BlackBerry 10.
Facebook and Twitter bb10 apps were apparently written by BlackBerry themselves. No investment needed by the app company. Same deal applies to other app companies. Yet they still reject.
Still think nothing else is in play here?
It's not a conspiracy it's just the big boys making sure the competition stays down. The ROI argument doesn't make sense to me as long as bb10 has the android runtime.
Posted via CB1010-15-13 06:51 PMLike 0 -
Now the big question is "is that 2% going to grow or shrink?" And for most devs it's a reasonable choice to just wait a few months and see if it gains market share or loses it. I'm guessing that's what most devs are doing. Wait and see if Blackberry survives.
RIM was genius in having the Android run time environment though. If only it worked better (which I heard it does with 10.2). Android apps aren't nearly as good as native, but at least you can use them. Blackberry needs to stay on top of that though and keep on updating their runtimes.richardat likes this.10-15-13 06:55 PMLike 1 -
RIM was genius in having the Android run time environment though. If only it worked better (which I heard it does with 10.2). Android apps aren't nearly as good as native, but at least you can use them. Blackberry needs to stay on top of that though and keep on updating their runtimes.10-15-13 08:10 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesNetflix is on the Nintendo wii u yet officially there are more bb10 devices than wii u sold. Why?
I agree that devs just don't want their apps on BlackBerry 10.
Facebook and Twitter bb10 apps were apparently written by BlackBerry themselves. No investment needed by the app company. Same deal applies to other app companies. Yet they still reject.
Still think nothing else is in play here?
It's not a conspiracy it's just the big boys making sure the competition stays down. The ROI argument doesn't make sense to me as long as bb10 has the android runtime.
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The ROI argument makes sense if you look at it from a developer's point of view. It's easy for non-developers to refer to it as being "easy" LOL.
If BBRY makes it worth the time, those apps would be here
Do a check for the thread by Youmail. Long time BBOS developer that breaks down the numbers. It helps shed light on the whole "it's easy" idea. No conspiracy.
The funny thing is that we still hear Android people claiming there are conspiracies too. Nah... Developers have to justify resources. As I said earlier, it it was so easy, we'd all be doing it. BBRY would be making BBM clients for Tizen, bada and Symbian.richardat likes this.10-15-13 08:25 PMLike 1 - It's not about Wii. It's about Nintendo. BBRY doesn't have the power that Nintendo or Sony have. You're looking at it through a myopic lens.
The ROI argument makes sense if you look at it from a developer's point of view. It's easy for non-developers to refer to it as being "easy" LOL.
If BBRY makes it worth the time, those apps would be here
Do a check for the thread by Youmail. Long time BBOS developer that breaks down the numbers. It helps shed light on the whole "it's easy" idea. No conspiracy.
The funny thing is that we still hear Android people claiming there are conspiracies too. Nah... Developers have to justify resources. As I said earlier, it it was so easy, we'd all be doing it. BBRY would be making BBM clients for Tizen, bada and Symbian.10-15-13 08:59 PMLike 0 -
BB10 has sub-1% of the smartphone market. It really isn't difficult to figure out why that doesn't get devs all excited.10-15-13 09:13 PMLike 0 - It's not about Wii. It's about Nintendo. BBRY doesn't have the power that Nintendo or Sony have. You're looking at it through a myopic lens.
The ROI argument makes sense if you look at it from a developer's point of view. It's easy for non-developers to refer to it as being "easy" LOL.
If BBRY makes it worth the time, those apps would be here
Do a check for the thread by Youmail. Long time BBOS developer that breaks down the numbers. It helps shed light on the whole "it's easy" idea. No conspiracy.
The funny thing is that we still hear Android people claiming there are conspiracies too. Nah... Developers have to justify resources. As I said earlier, it it was so easy, we'd all be doing it. BBRY would be making BBM clients for Tizen, bada and Symbian.
Nintendo did well with the wii not so much with the wii u and the game cube before. And blackberry used to be the largest player in the smartphone market. Power is not measurable.
Posted via CB1010-15-13 10:20 PMLike 0 - Let's talk numbers of users then. Bb currently has 62 million bbos bis subscribers. Lets say only 10 percent of them gets carried on to BlackBerry 10. Combine that with the existing bb10 user base. You would have 10 million users. Isn't that enough for a crummy ported app which works sideloaded anyway with no resources or "development" time spent?
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