BlackBerry isn't to blame.. Its the Market...
- I think I'm at peace now. I think BlackBerry can try as hard as they want, but the market will never, EVER let them back in.
Latest example, the Priv. ATT and Verizon both carry the phone now.. but you have to KNOW about it, before you can go get it.. Go to the website, S7 is advertised up and down the pages. No store in my area 25mi radius has the Priv in stock. so its online only.. so go online, and VZW will be sure to sell you on the S7 before you even get to the Priv page... BlackBerry is letting it happen. But, there is nothing they can do.
Its a shame.03-14-16 10:20 AMLike 3 - I think I'm at peace now. I think BlackBerry can try as hard as they want, but the market will never, EVER let them back in.
Latest example, the Priv. ATT and Verizon both carry the phone now.. but you have to KNOW about it, before you can go get it.. Go to the website, S7 is advertised up and down the pages. No store in my area 25mi radius has the Priv in stock. so its online only.. so go online, and VZW will be sure to sell you on the S7 before you even get to the Priv page... BlackBerry is letting it happen. But, there is nothing they can do.
Its a shame.
The problem isn't that the market won't give BlackBerry a change... it's that BlackBerry can't keep up with the market.03-14-16 11:20 AMLike 7 - BlackBerry just thought that it was enough to put out an Android device.
Now everybody can understand that it's the same error that BlackBerry made for years with BlackBerry10 ... not pushing the product in the only way the need to.
Posted via CB10crackberry_geek likes this.03-14-16 03:50 PMLike 1 - Carriers aren't stupid - they promote the handsets that give them the best chance of getting new customers and retaining existing ones. A focus group of 100 potential smartphone buyers will tell them all they need to know.JeepBB and Dunt Dunt Dunt like this.03-14-16 04:01 PMLike 2
- Sure. Let's blame "the market" for BlackBerry's struggles. They're completely responsible for the poor decision-making and execution that's plagued the company for at least the last nine years, including the inability to market properly, the failure to respond to the iPhone(which, in some ways, led to the rise of Android), the crap-fest that was the Storm, the joke that was the Playbook, their inability to build and grow developer relations, wasting money on stunts like hiring Alicia Keys, and screwing up the multi platform launch of BBM while things like WhatsApp and Snapchat ate its lunch. Pull your head out of the sand and assign blame where it's due!03-25-16 04:16 PMLike 9
- I haven't seen a single ad on TV or anywhere for the Priv. Who's to blame for the market not knowing the phone exists? Even during the MWC BlackBerry didn't make an attempt to show off their Priv.
Posted via CB1003-26-16 04:01 AMLike 0 - Sure. Let's blame "the market" for BlackBerry's struggles. They're completely responsible for the poor decision-making and execution that's plagued the company for at least the last nine years, including the inability to market properly, the failure to respond to the iPhone(which, in some ways, led to the rise of Android), the crap-fest that was the Storm, the joke that was the Playbook, their inability to build and grow developer relations, wasting money on stunts like hiring Alicia Keys, and screwing up the multi platform launch of BBM while things like WhatsApp and Snapchat ate its lunch. Pull your head out of the sand and assign blame where it's due!
Posted Via Q10 10.3.2.283603-26-16 06:41 PMLike 0 - +1 ...except for statement "hiring Alicia keys"... I'm big fans of her and she's one of reason I tried and look at BlackBerry 10 devices and came back to BlackBerry after using iphone and android (at that time feels suck with BlackBerry OS)
Posted Via Q10 10.3.2.283603-27-16 02:43 AMLike 0 - Sure. Let's blame "the market" for BlackBerry's struggles. They're completely responsible for the poor decision-making and execution that's plagued the company for at least the last nine years, including the inability to market properly, the failure to respond to the iPhone(which, in some ways, led to the rise of Android), the crap-fest that was the Storm, the joke that was the Playbook, their inability to build and grow developer relations, wasting money on stunts like hiring Alicia Keys, and screwing up the multi platform launch of BBM while things like WhatsApp and Snapchat ate its lunch. Pull your head out of the sand and assign blame where it's due!
Posted via CB1003-28-16 03:03 AMLike 0 - Sure. Let's blame "the market" for BlackBerry's struggles. They're completely responsible for the poor decision-making and execution that's plagued the company for at least the last nine years, including the inability to market properly, the failure to respond to the iPhone(which, in some ways, led to the rise of Android), the crap-fest that was the Storm, the joke that was the Playbook, their inability to build and grow developer relations, wasting money on stunts like hiring Alicia Keys, and screwing up the multi platform launch of BBM while things like WhatsApp and Snapchat ate its lunch. Pull your head out of the sand and assign blame where it's due!04-03-16 10:54 PMLike 0
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� There's a Crack in the Berry right now... �04-04-16 01:07 AMLike 0 - I think I'm at peace now. I think BlackBerry can try as hard as they want, but the market will never, EVER let them back in.
Latest example, the Priv. ATT and Verizon both carry the phone now.. but you have to KNOW about it, before you can go get it.. Go to the website, S7 is advertised up and down the pages. No store in my area 25mi radius has the Priv in stock. so its online only.. so go online, and VZW will be sure to sell you on the S7 before you even get to the Priv page... BlackBerry is letting it happen. But, there is nothing they can do.
Its a shame.
I thought otherwise.
Posted via CB1004-04-16 01:12 AMLike 0 -
Android and iOS will "NEVER" become better then BB10. Simply not possible. They would have to be completely scrapped, if anything. Both are old outdated OS's.
This ain't an opinion, its basic Fact. Not to mention, BBRY's great lack in Marketing & device choice. Hence the low sales.04-05-16 04:08 AMLike 0 - The BB10 interface was "borrowed" from WebOS and Meego - both of which used gesture-based navigation. The thing that all 3 of these OSs share is: the mass market didn't care. Sure, all three had small, devoted fan bases, but the market as a whole simply had other priorities that none of these three OSs were able to deliver. WebOS and Meego are effectively dead, and BB10 is soon to follow.04-05-16 10:08 AMLike 5
- BlackBerry surpassed the market technologically. BB10 is far superior to anything out to date. And that will never change. Unless a new OS comes out with a similar interface.
Android and iOS will "NEVER" become better then BB10. Simply not possible. They would have to be completely scrapped, if anything. Both are old outdated OS's.
This ain't an opinion, its basic Fact. Not to mention, BBRY's great lack in Marketing & device choice. Hence the low sales.
As for BB10 being far superior...I've heard arguments that a RTOS wasn't a good choice for a mobile platform. And my personal experience is that the need for the Android Runtime greatly reduced the efficiency of the OS. The Z10's battery size was comparable to the iPhone of that time.... but iOS was MUCH more power efficient than BB10 was.
Maybe if BlackBerry had created BB10 back in 2007, there had been no need for the runtime and BlackBerry had made competitive hardware.... we would have seen the full potential of BB10. But that's a moot point now...04-05-16 10:40 AMLike 0 - That's like having the best engine in a race... but forgetting to bring the tires.
As for BB10 being far superior...I've heard arguments that a RTOS wasn't a good choice for a mobile platform. And my personal experience is that the need for the Android Runtime greatly reduced the efficiency of the OS. The Z10's battery size was comparable to the iPhone of that time.... but iOS was MUCH more power efficient than BB10 was.
Maybe if BlackBerry had created BB10 back in 2007, there had been no need for the runtime and BlackBerry had made competitive hardware.... we would have seen the full potential of BB10. But that's a moot point now...04-05-16 09:36 PMLike 0 - The BB10 interface was "borrowed" from WebOS and Meego - both of which used gesture-based navigation. The thing that all 3 of these OSs share is: the mass market didn't care. Sure, all three had small, devoted fan bases, but the market as a whole simply had other priorities that none of these three OSs were able to deliver. WebOS and Meego are effectively dead, and BB10 is soon to follow.
There's many mitigating factors that help mess up BlackBerry in the hardware division. Of Course, had BBRY released BB10 in 2010, when they had a commanding market share, things would have been a lot different today.04-05-16 09:40 PMLike 0 - Once again, it's "BB10 users are smarter and superior, and everyone else are dumb sheep." That kind of denial and hubris is exactly why BB failed in the market, and why BB10 is going away.04-05-16 10:19 PMLike 9
- You are talking about the Z10 and BB10 when it was initially released. Of Course, it takes time to refine the platform. And they did quite a bit after X amount of years. Look how long iOS has been out for. It took Apple quite a long time to make the battery last longer. Though batteries still drain fast in iPhones.
During normal work day, I'll be ok as I have a charger in the car and at work. But when we go on vacation and are away from a power source.. I put my Z10 into battery saving mode, and I carry my spare battery. But I'll still be dead in 12 hours, and she'll still be going. And that's with us using he phone more as the Camera is better, as Apps work on her phone (we do Disney a lot and they have a My Disney Experience app).04-06-16 07:09 AMLike 0 -
- BlackBerry surpassed the market technologically. BB10 is far superior to anything out to date. And that will never change. Unless a new OS comes out with a similar interface.
Android and iOS will "NEVER" become better then BB10. Simply not possible. They would have to be completely scrapped, if anything. Both are old outdated OS's.
This ain't an opinion, its basic Fact.
Where are you coming up with this wackiness?04-06-16 07:17 AMLike 4 - You are talking about the Z10 and BB10 when it was initially released. Of Course, it takes time to refine the platform. And they did quite a bit after X amount of years. Look how long iOS has been out for. It took Apple quite a long time to make the battery last longer. Though batteries still drain fast in iPhones.
That's like building a pretty crappy car today and saying people should buy it because it's better than a car built 20 years ago. When launching a product your competition isn't the products that were released 5 or 10 years ago, it's the products currently on the market. Saying launch-BB10 n 2013 was better than launch-iOS(2007) or launch-Android (2008) was not a good reason to buy BB10 in 2013 and still is not a good reason today.04-06-16 07:25 AMLike 3
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