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  1. deptech's Avatar
    I liked the two screen sizes, those should attract most of their customers.

    Battery is a big fail for me, looks like you will need to charge the device at least twice a day.

    It seems to me that many of the comments written within the news (loosely stated) articles don't match up with their sales success, many negative comments. It will be interesting to see how the first few sales days go, line ups or no line ups...

    Z30 on 10.2.1 in Kitchener (Canada)
    09-10-14 05:43 AM
  2. Blackberry_boffin's Avatar
    These things will sell. A lot. All three.
    Hate them or like them they are damn good products.
    Android cannot knock the iPhone on screen sizes now. Everything else is now largely relative.
    The watch will tempt millions imperfect and sometimes gimmicky as it is (moon phases? crown? drawing? battery life)..
    09-10-14 06:06 AM
  3. co4nd's Avatar
    I'm buying the phone ASAP.
    09-10-14 06:09 AM
  4. MobileZen's Avatar
    Your thoughts on iPhone 6 and Apple Watch-picarddoublefacepalm.jpg

    Posted via CB10
    09-10-14 06:12 AM
  5. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Attachment 296818

    BBM already has a sticker for the Apple watch.

    Posted via the Z30 on CB10
    #bored ?

    Yeah, iBored...

    ? BlackBerry? I premdict the future's gonna be chenomenal! ?
    09-10-14 06:40 AM
  6. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    The Apple Pay is functionally new. They're getting stores and services to get the scanners and are bringing everything together to make payments work in a secure way. NFC was pretty useless for me before, this looks well-conceived and supported.
    Not really. The retailers are already on track to upgrade universally by Oct 2015, and a significant portion of them already have. This wasn't a result of anything Apple did. The plan has been in motion for quite some time. Apple is merely releasing their own mobile payment service when the plan is already chugging full steam ahead.
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    09-10-14 06:49 AM
  7. TJKGT's Avatar
    I don't want to wear a device i'd likely have to charge 3x a day.

    #iWatch

    Had to.
    09-10-14 07:07 AM
  8. KenFletch's Avatar
    My BB is always my main driver, but I actually was curious about getting the 6 incher as my secondary device based on the early rumors of sapphire, AND if it had improved significantly in battery life.

    Needless to say, I am not so curious anymore.

    Heres my thoughts on todays IPhone version 6 (IPv6) event.

    IPv6 - Seems like they're going back to rounded metallic edges like the original iPhone. This is both with the phone and the apple watch. Not sure I find that modern looking.

    I was watching the event side by side with the stock price live and the stock peaked at $102.69 right before the watch announcement and then it was all downhill from there to close the day lower. Not sure if this is because of the watch announcement itself or if investors were left underwhelmed by the IPv6 when they moved to the next segment.

    There was just too much vagueness in the announcement. For crying out loud, this thing is going to be available next week, no need to be coy with specs. It's not like Samsung is gonna thrive on a 1 week head start to mock you for last years specs. From what I read, both models of phones are going to be only 1GB RAM, I almost don't believe it, but GeekBench has been fairly reliable on specs. No talk or literature whatsoever about battery capacity on ANY of their devices - we'll find out how bad the battery is by around 4pm on 9/19 I guess.

    Apple Watch I expected something like this because of the hire of the Burberry executive. I did like the crown concept, however I still feel like this is like the 3D revolution where the industry is trying REALLY hard to create a market that no-one is really asking for. At the end of the day (literally), I think battery life will be the main sore point. Not sure if Im the type to charge my watch at night. Not sure if I want to be buzzed on my wrist every time I get an email (Pavlovs dog comes to mind from Psych 101 in college)

    Apple Pay - "The credit card is dead".....Ummm, not so fast. Talk to my wife who shops online all day long. What is she going to tap with that? What happens when you are not connected to the network? What happens when your phone battery is dead? How are you going to pay at a restaurant - is the waiter going to bring a terminal to your table that you can tap? Oh, and how do you handle tips at restaurants? What happens when you want to return something? How are you going to book a flight? How is the hotel going to keep your payment on file for "incidentals"? Is there going to be a sudden surge of mysterious and unexplained thumb amputations with iPhone theft?

    Sorry, I know the internet is abuzz on this Apple Pay stuff, but like all rotten apple stuff, it too will pass with little fanfare and sit on a shelf next to the Newton.
    Makes my point about the state of payment terminals in the USA. Yes there are wireless chip/tap terminals in other countries. They can calculate tips for you. Most Android and all BlackBerrys for past 4 years are capable of this. The banks ans vendors and service providers have been unable to sort it out. For my bank there is a Bold only App. Another bank is trialing it.

    But the vendor end is slow. My tap to pay VISA card can be used at about half the vendors, tap to pay requires no sig but has a low limit. 59-100 depending on the vendor.

    This will not be working everywhere tomorrow.

    Also need a NFC enabled SIM card.

    HTC TOUCH, Nokia-N97, BlackBerry Torch 9800, Z10
    09-10-14 07:09 AM
  9. GoJaysGo's Avatar
    well i can tell you one thing, while the fanboys were rallying up the price, i sold my aapl stock before wall street got wind of how disappointing their new products are!
    Really? You're clearly full of ****. If you knew anything about Apple and Apple announcements in particular, you would know Apple's stock ALWAYS goes down after an announcement. The $AAPL stock is down $0.37 )or (-0.38%) wow. Better sell now, before it crashes. I guess you're the one going to lose out, when the xmas spending season kicks in and they sell ~30-40 million units, and the Passport fails to sell past 1 million...
    Last edited by GoJaysGo; 09-11-14 at 07:03 AM. Reason: typo
    sentimentGX4 and Residing like this.
    09-10-14 07:13 AM
  10. xandermac's Avatar
    I'll repeat myself here.

    First, the phone. If you're going to make the damn thing bigger why not just make it a little thicker, with a larger battery, and do away with the camera lump? Who wants a phone flopping around on their desk because of that ugly lump? Not overly impressed with the phone but it is just a phone and these days it's hard to impress. I'm not one that wants a bigger screen. I dumped my HTC one after two weeks simply because it was too big for my personal taste. My 5c with iOS8 will be perfect for another year at least.

    Second, the Watch. Software wise I couldn't really fault it, does everything I could possibly imagine and when developers get the SDK i'm certain it'll do a lot I couldn't possibly imagine. Design wise, it's an ugly little thing!... It's also not really made for left handers like myself and I have real concerns about the display.
    I wear some fairly high end watches and they all have sapphire crystal glass (and case backs in some cases) that are up to 4mm thick, hence their strength and water resistance at depth. With the Apple Watch the display is not only touch sensitive but also pressure sensitive and this tells me that it uses a wafer thin crystal display that could possibly easily shatter the first time you knock it against a door jamb, which as anyone that wears a watch daily will tell you isn't a rare occurrence.

    Its nice that you can use ApplePay on the watch without having to have the iPhone 6 as I won't be getting one of those but probably will get the watch itself. They've brought the functionality to a smartwatch that has been missing up until now. Continuity will be handy, finally having Actionable notifications and usable apps on a smartwatch will be great. I actually see this making quite a large number of people start wearing a watch.

    I can't wait to get my hands on this thing and really check it out, the software is amazing even if the design is a little lacking.
    Last edited by xandermac; 09-10-14 at 08:18 AM.
    09-10-14 08:05 AM
  11. KenFletch's Avatar

    Its nice that you can use NFC payments with the watch without having to have the iPhone 6 as I probably won't be getting one of those but probably will get the watch itself.
    I can't wait to get my hands on this thing and really check it out, the software is amazing even if the design is a little lacking.
    Pretty sure that functionality comes from the phone and the watch needs to pair with an iPhone 5 or 6 (via bluetooth which was new to iPhones with the 5)



    HTC TOUCH, Nokia-N97, BlackBerry Torch 9800, Z10
    09-10-14 08:16 AM
  12. xandermac's Avatar
    Pretty sure that functionality comes from the phone and the watch needs to pair with an iPhone 5 or 6 (via bluetooth which was new to iPhones with the 5)

    HTC TOUCH, Nokia-N97, BlackBerry Torch 9800, Z10
    You need the phone (5, 5c, 5s or 6) to set it up but after that everything is built into the watch. Passbook, NFC is all standalone in the watch itself.

    Also, my 1st Gen iPhone has and still has bluetooth. Not sure why you think it only got BT with the iPhone 5. They even released their own BT headset with the 1st Gen iPhone, I still have and use it also.
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    09-10-14 08:19 AM
  13. tlegend2012's Avatar
    My only thought was that a company like apple can't stream a launch event on the website yet, they claim they are so advanced . That was sad to see.
    09-10-14 08:20 AM
  14. eyesopen1111's Avatar
    Not really. The retailers are already on track to upgrade universally by Oct 2015, and a significant portion of them already have. This wasn't a result of anything Apple did. The plan has been in motion for quite some time. Apple is merely releasing their own mobile payment service when the plan is already chugging full steam ahead.
    October of 2015, you say? Apple Pay launches next month, in October of 2014, but I suppose you're cool being a year behind. And, yes, any number of players have been talking up mobile NFC payments for some time, but Apple is coming through like no one else has with what promises to be excellent implementation, a difference that explains why current use/adoption of mobile payments is so low. Give Apple credit for bringing together the hardware, software, banking, and commercial coordination on a scale that no one else has--not even, to my surprise, Google.

    Remember that it's more than just scanners that are required for Apple Pay's success. What about the hardware secure element to keep sensitive data safe? Or the fingerprint scanner to protect security? Or the market leverage to get the major banks and credit cards and merchants to come in to the new payment system? Or the software to support the process so smoothly? NFC payments that "just work" are a huge accomplishment, assuming Apple delivers on this as advertised.

    This is pretty exciting for smartphones everywhere, as I'm sure it'll spread fast to Android and hopefully to BlackBerry and other OSes (M$, Sailfish, etc.), but let's not minimize what Apple's been able to do with Apple Pay through iPhone 6/6+ or Apple Watch. It's pretty convenient and futuristic.

    Z-30 / STA100-5 / 10.3.0.1154 / T-Mobile USA
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    09-10-14 08:49 AM
  15. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    October of 2015, you say? Apple Pay launches next month, in October of 2014, but I suppose you're cool being a year behind. And, yes, any number of players have been talking up mobile NFC payments for some time, but Apple is coming through like no one else has with what promises to be excellent implementation, a difference that explains why current use/adoption of mobile payments is so low. Give Apple credit for bringing together the hardware, software, banking, and commercial coordination on a scale that no one else has--not even, to my surprise, Google.

    Remember that it's more than just scanners that are required for Apple Pay's success. What about the hardware secure element to keep sensitive data safe? Or the fingerprint scanner to protect security? Or the market leverage to get the major banks and credit cards and merchants to come in to the new payment system? Or the software to support the process so smoothly? NFC payments that "just work" are a huge accomplishment, assuming Apple delivers on this as advertised.

    This is pretty exciting for smartphones everywhere, as I'm sure it'll spread fast to Android and hopefully to BlackBerry and other OSes (M$, Sailfish, etc.), but let's not minimize what Apple's been able to do with Apple Pay through iPhone 6/6+ or Apple Watch. It's pretty convenient and futuristic.

    Z-30 / STA100-5 / 10.3.0.1154 / T-Mobile USA
    There's no credit due to Apple for this. And yes... All retailers are expected to be switched over by Oct 2015. That's a plan that was set in motion a while ago. Many in the US/NA have already switched, and many more are switching every day. This was not in any way a result of Apple bringing together hardware, software, banking, and commercial coordination. All that was accomplished without help from Apple. All Apple has done, is create their own mobile payment system to work in conjunction with what is already being deployed. In essence, all they did was re-invent the wheel. And they're deploying their payment services just as the existing system is gaining steam.
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    09-10-14 09:38 AM
  16. Carrtman's Avatar
    Jup that's really amazing just like cloud hacks, hacked finger print scanners and ask that stuff.
    Yes for companies it's convenient because they get to know you even better than usual, so new options for profile based advertisement.

    And what happens if something went wrong with your payment how do you hand out tips in restaurants? Questions over questions and that's why mobile payment hasn't taken off
    09-10-14 09:41 AM
  17. undone's Avatar
    It won't scratch unless you lay it on a diamond.... sapphire lens.
    Unless of course where it joins the frame it gets caught on something repeatedly and just pulls apart. Flush or indented is always a better way to go.
    09-10-14 09:45 AM
  18. undone's Avatar
    My take away on the overly expensive iWatch was, if you dont have an iPhone dont bother. What I read (which could be wrong) is that you need an iPhone to use it. Not useful as a stand alone device.
    09-10-14 09:47 AM
  19. niss63's Avatar
    If these new items are similar to other Apple devices, they will function well and sell at a good clip, making the company plenty of profit.

    What Apple sells is a quality device that works and has the features that 80% of the population wants. For this, they can charge a premium.

    The only three problems:

    • The battery size is too small. They had the room in the form factor to increase the dimensions a tad so that an adequate battery could be installed - they just missed this one.
    • Bezels are too big. The screens could have been made bigger or the phone smaller.
    • the release of the iWatch after the holiday season is over. That was dumb and honestly sounds like something BlackBerry would do.
    09-10-14 09:48 AM
  20. xandermac's Avatar
    Overly expensive? I guess some people haven't priced watches lately. Just wait until they post all the prices for all the versions/capacities, your head will explode.

    My take away on the overly expensive iWatch was, if you dont have an iPhone dont bother. What I read (which could be wrong) is that you need an iPhone to use it. Not useful as a stand alone device.
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    09-10-14 09:49 AM
  21. diehardbbuser's Avatar
    My only thought was that a company like apple can't stream a launch event on the website yet, they claim they are so advanced . That was sad to see.
    Lol. You still don't get it. Apple is a marketing machine.

    If they did that and made it for general public to see it live.. Then all the bloggers, media outlets would have nothing to drive traffic to there sites which makes them money.. If they werent making money off Apple news, then they would not keep talking up Apple.. It's a win win for both apple and media to keep working together... It's that exclusive aspects.. Mystique that makes Apple keep momentum with minor product launches.

    Their formula is no secret.. It's just very hard to replicate ...
    09-10-14 09:50 AM
  22. diehardbbuser's Avatar
    My take away on the overly expensive iWatch was, if you dont have an iPhone dont bother. What I read (which could be wrong) is that you need an iPhone to use it. Not useful as a stand alone device.
    Overly expensive watch.. Where do people come up with this... A simple quartz driven watch can cost thousands for no reason.. A manual wind as well as well automatics..

    A few hundred dollars is peanuts.. The biggest single issue with the watch is the battery and battery life..

    Is the battery removable so when it starts to die and can't take charges, can you buy a replacement like you can in a quartz watch..

    What's the real world battery life.. Do you need to charge everyday or even twice a day... Even if it's daily... Who in the world wants the stress of keeping their phone, pad, laptop and now watch charged.. Yikes..

    Distracted driving, a real real real terrifying aspect that no one wants to talk about. Scares me to death to think of new drivers having one of these strapped to their arm.. How many accidents.. How many deaths are going to be attributed to it..

    Oh yeah.. And is it waterproof... Nothing like walking in the rain or snow and frying out your phone.
    Last edited by diehardbbuser; 09-10-14 at 10:51 AM.
    09-10-14 09:56 AM
  23. Thunderbuck's Avatar
    October of 2015, you say? Apple Pay launches next month, in October of 2014, but I suppose you're cool being a year behind. And, yes, any number of players have been talking up mobile NFC payments for some time, but Apple is coming through like no one else has with what promises to be excellent implementation, a difference that explains why current use/adoption of mobile payments is so low. Give Apple credit for bringing together the hardware, software, banking, and commercial coordination on a scale that no one else has--not even, to my surprise, Google.

    Remember that it's more than just scanners that are required for Apple Pay's success. What about the hardware secure element to keep sensitive data safe? Or the fingerprint scanner to protect security? Or the market leverage to get the major banks and credit cards and merchants to come in to the new payment system? Or the software to support the process so smoothly? NFC payments that "just work" are a huge accomplishment, assuming Apple delivers on this as advertised.

    This is pretty exciting for smartphones everywhere, as I'm sure it'll spread fast to Android and hopefully to BlackBerry and other OSes (M$, Sailfish, etc.), but let's not minimize what Apple's been able to do with Apple Pay through iPhone 6/6+ or Apple Watch. It's pretty convenient and futuristic.

    Z-30 / STA100-5 / 10.3.0.1154 / T-Mobile USA
    Every device for can be used for wireless payments uses the Secure Element (including BlackBerry). That?s nothing new. And fingerprint scanning isn?t the most secure, just the most convenient.

    Also, I'm going to guess you're American, because Tap To Pay is already fairly common throughout the rest of the world. This is a case where the US is just catching up with everyone else.

    Posted from CB10 running on my awesome Z30 2B6927F7
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    09-10-14 10:19 AM
  24. rapha194's Avatar
    Iphone 6 Plus is an excellent phone

    Screen biggest and best
    8MP camera with optical sensor
    NFC
    CPU and better GPU
    With good battery life (6 Iphone PLUS)
    Biometrics NEAT system
    aple Pay
    App Store quality
    IOS 8 with new features
    Phone upgraded Guarantee

    Great phone with a great ecosystem!
    Last edited by rapha194; 09-10-14 at 03:28 PM.
    09-10-14 10:37 AM
  25. BBZ10wannabe's Avatar
    I think people will be disappointed that the iPhone 6 battery is no better than the iPhone 5S battery which was one of it's biggest drawbacks. I haven't regularly worn a watch in years and that won't change. If your watch has access to many phone functions, I wonder about security. Is it lockable? If so, how convenient is it to unlock and use one handed? Regardless, they will sell a bunch for each of it's uses, mostly fitness I presume.
    09-10-14 10:53 AM
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