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  1. i7guy's Avatar
    You have a point but I now carry a laptop iPad and bb. The laptop is for reviewing attachments that require heavy editing.

    So in a lot of instances reviewing an attachment on an iPhone is not what I need to do, which is why I have my laptop.
    06-07-11 01:12 PM
  2. Accidental Post's Avatar
    Folks let's face it people here have drank the RIM Kool Aid. Let's see, I want to go back to a slower processor, truncated email, bad web browsing, small screen and and OS that can't get out of it's own way. Yeah thats what I want, I want a phone that I pay the same price as for a phone that does everything well and is light years ahead of RIM. Apple is making huge advancements in the corp. world and has put RIM on notice. The haters will always cling to BBM and Security but, I work in a heavily regulated industry and iPhones are pushing the BB's out of existence.
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    06-08-11 05:35 AM
  3. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Folks let's face it people here have drank the RIM Kool Aid. Let's see, I want to go back to a slower processor, truncated email, bad web browsing, small screen and and OS that can't get out of it's own way. Yeah thats what I want, I want a phone that I pay the same price as for a phone that does everything well and is light years ahead of RIM. Apple is making huge advancements in the corp. world and has put RIM on notice. The haters will always cling to BBM and Security but, I work in a heavily regulated industry and iPhones are pushing the BB's out of existence.
    Well yeah, this is crackberry.com after all, it's in the name. And Apple is no way in the same price bracket as blackberry. 15 extra a month compared to a 9780 or Torch to get the device free on Vodafone uk.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-08-11 05:37 AM
  4. Accidental Post's Avatar
    Well yeah, this is crackberry.com after all, it's in the name. And Apple is no way in the same price bracket as blackberry. 15 extra a month compared to a 9780 or Torch to get the device free on Vodafone uk.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Ok I meant US let's see BB storm 2 POS 199.99 and iPhone4 199.99 29.99 unlimited data plan for both. VZW plans.
    06-08-11 07:33 AM
  5. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Ok I meant US let's see BB storm 2 POS 199.99 and iPhone4 199.99 29.99 unlimited data plan for both. VZW plans.
    Well, that's the carrier's choice. How would you feel if you had to pay an extra 15/$25? a month for the privilege of having the iphone 4?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-08-11 07:49 AM
  6. Accidental Post's Avatar
    Well fortunately I don't, but I would have to weigh my options. I mean is 25 bucks a month worth the headache, I believe I would pay it. But don't know until I had to make a choice. Don't blame Apple blame your carrier.
    06-08-11 09:12 AM
  7. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Well fortunately I don't, but I would have to weigh my options. I mean is 25 bucks a month worth the headache, I believe I would pay it. But don't know until I had to make a choice. Don't blame Apple blame your carrier.
    Same goes for you too, no way should the Storm2 be the same price as an iphone 4.

    Having insurance would ad another 15/$25 a month, 7.50 a month for a blackberry.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Last edited by belfastdispatcher; 06-08-11 at 09:19 AM.
    06-08-11 09:17 AM
  8. Accidental Post's Avatar
    Thats the point why would I pay 199 for a POS BB when for the same money I get the iPhone? Without truncated email, craptacular web browsing and underpowered hardware?

    And for what I am seeing VZW is moving away from the BB. Not totally but no longer do they push the device. It's all about Android and IOS for them.

    Heck they won't even touch the Playbook and that should speak volumes........
    06-08-11 09:18 AM
  9. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Thats the point why would I pay 199 for a POS BB when for the same money I get the iPhone? Without truncated email, craptacular web browsing and underpowered hardware?

    And for what I am seeing VZW is moving away from the BB. Not totally but no longer do they push the device. It's all about Android and IOS for them.

    Heck they won't even touch the Playbook and that should speak volumes........
    Yeah, but that situation doesn't apply everywhere, as explained it could cost you an extra $35 a month to run an iphone4 compared to a 9780 for example. No way in helll is iphone 4 worth it.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-08-11 09:24 AM
  10. jd914's Avatar
    Yeah, but that situation doesn't apply everywhere, as explained it could cost you an extra $35 a month to run an iphone4 compared to a 9780 for example. No way in helll is iphone 4 worth it.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Yes it does at least in the US no mobile carrier is pushing Blackberry because they have absolutely nothing to offer at this time. Time is money and the more RIM fails to push out new technology the more customers it's going to lose.

    BTW I'm sure many would pay a little more to be on a better device than a piece of outdated junk like the 9780. My unlimited data plan is only $29.99 and I have never paid extra to be on an iPhone so I don't know where you're getting your figures from.
    Last edited by JD914; 06-08-11 at 09:40 AM.
    06-08-11 09:35 AM
  11. Accidental Post's Avatar
    JD he is in Europe........thats where the fees come in. Carriers over there don't subsidize phones like they do here.
    06-08-11 09:44 AM
  12. Accidental Post's Avatar
    And just for good measure let's compare specs shall we:

    BB 9780
    GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
    HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
    Announced 2010, October
    Status Available. Released 2010, November
    SIZE Dimensions 109 x 60 x 14 mm
    Weight 122 g
    DISPLAY Type TFT, 65K colors
    Size 480 x 360 pixels, 2.44 inches
    - QWERTY keyboard
    - Touch-sensitive optical trackpad
    SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
    Loudspeaker Yes
    3.5mm jack Yes, check quality
    MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records Yes
    Internal 256 MB storage, 512 MB RAM
    Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB card included, buy memory
    DATA GPRS Yes
    EDGE Yes
    3G HSDPA
    WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, UMA
    Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
    Infrared port No
    USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
    CAMERA Primary 5 MP, 2592x1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
    Video Yes
    Secondary No
    FEATURES OS BlackBerry OS 6.0
    CPU 624 MHz processor
    Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
    Browser HTML
    Radio No
    Games Yes + downloadable
    Colors Black, White
    GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java Yes, MIDP 2.0
    - BlackBerry maps
    - Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
    - Media player MP3/WMA/AAC+
    - Video player DivX/WMV/XviD/3gp
    - Organizer
    - Voice memo/dial
    - Predictive text input
    BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh
    Stand-by Up to 528 h (2G) / Up to 408 h (3G)
    Talk time Up to 6 h (2G) / Up to 6 h (3G)

    iPhone4 (GSM)
    GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
    Announced 2010, June
    Status Available. Released 2010, June
    SIZE Dimensions 115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3 mm
    Weight 137 g
    DISPLAY Type LED-backlit IPS TFT, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
    Size 640 x 960 pixels, 3.5 inches
    - Scratch-resistant oleophobic surface
    - Multi-touch input method
    - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
    - Three-axis gyro sensor
    - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
    SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
    Loudspeaker Yes
    3.5mm jack Yes, check quality
    MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records 100 received, dialed and missed calls
    Internal 16/32 GB storage, 512 MB RAM
    Card slot No
    DATA GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps
    EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps
    3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
    WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi hotspot
    Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
    Infrared port No
    USB Yes, v2.0
    CAMERA Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
    Features Touch focus, geo-tagging
    Video Yes, 720p@30fps, LED video light, geo-tagging, check quality
    Secondary Yes, videocalling over Wi-Fi only
    FEATURES OS iOS 4
    CPU 1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 processor, PowerVR SGX535GPU, Apple A4 chipset
    Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email
    Browser HTML (Safari)
    Radio No
    Games Downloadable, incl. motion-based
    Colors Black, White
    GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java No
    - MicroSIM card support only
    - Scratch-resistant glass back panel
    - Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
    - Digital compass
    - Google Maps
    - Audio/video player and editor
    - Voice command/dial
    - TV-out
    BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Po 1420mAh
    Stand-by Up to 300 h (2G) / Up to 300 h (3G)
    Talk time Up to 14 h (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)
    Music play Up to 40 h

    Anyone want to argue which phone is better?
    06-08-11 09:48 AM
  13. jd914's Avatar
    JD he is in Europe........thats where the fees come in. Carriers over there don't subsidize phones like they do here.
    Yes I know but I wasn't sure what he was referring to.
    06-08-11 09:55 AM
  14. i7guy's Avatar
    Folks let's face it people here have drank the RIM Kool Aid. Let's see, I want to go back to a slower processor, truncated email, bad web browsing, small screen and and OS that can't get out of it's own way. Yeah thats what I want, I want a phone that I pay the same price as for a phone that does everything well and is light years ahead of RIM. Apple is making huge advancements in the corp. world and has put RIM on notice. The haters will always cling to BBM and Security but, I work in a heavily regulated industry and iPhones are pushing the BB's out of existence.
    And a phone that works better for me than the competition. I work in a regulated industry also I'm waiting for bbs to be pushed out of existence. In the year 2525 maybe.
    Last edited by i7guy; 06-08-11 at 11:16 AM.
    06-08-11 11:11 AM
  15. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    Yeah, but that situation doesn't apply everywhere, as explained it could cost you an extra $35 a month to run an iphone4 compared to a 9780 for example. No way in helll is iphone 4 worth it.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Alternatively, you could just pay the 99 quid for an iPhone. You're also exaggerating a bit. If you do get the more expensive plan, you do get more minutes and data. For example, to get iPhone 4 for free, you have to get the 40/month plan over 2 years, which comes with 900 minutes and 750MB of data. To get a free BB, you can sign up for the 31/month plan, but you only get 600 minutes and 500MB of data. If you get the same plan with an iPhone, you would pay 36/month and 99 for the iPhone. It's a bit more per month, 5 quid, but it's not as much as you make it out to be.

    Given the options, it seems the best deal would be to get the free iPhone for 40/month and get the extra minutes. The extra 4/month over 2 years comes out to 96 pounds, which is less than the 99 you would have to pay for the phone on the lesser plan, and you get extra minutes and data. So if you go that way, yes, the iPhone is about 9/month more than a Blackberry, but you also get 50% more minutes and data. You can also get the same 900/750 plan with a BB, which would run you 36/month, which would mean only a 4/month savings for a BB over an iPhone. For people needing the extra minutes or data, I can easily see someone opting for an iPhone, especially since once their contract is up, they can easily sell their iPhone for 100-150 pounds, maybe even more. Two year old Blackberry, not so much.

    Links:

    iPhone On Vodafone - iPhone On Pay Monthly Plans - Vodafone

    Plans
    Last edited by Roo Zilla; 06-08-11 at 11:34 AM.
    06-08-11 11:16 AM
  16. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    And just for good measure let's compare specs shall we:

    BB 9780
    GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
    HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
    Announced 2010, October
    Status Available. Released 2010, November
    SIZE Dimensions 109 x 60 x 14 mm
    Weight 122 g
    DISPLAY Type TFT, 65K colors
    Size 480 x 360 pixels, 2.44 inches
    - QWERTY keyboard
    - Touch-sensitive optical trackpad
    SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
    Loudspeaker Yes
    3.5mm jack Yes, check quality
    MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records Yes
    Internal 256 MB storage, 512 MB RAM
    Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB card included, buy memory
    DATA GPRS Yes
    EDGE Yes
    3G HSDPA
    WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, UMA
    Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
    Infrared port No
    USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
    CAMERA Primary 5 MP, 2592x1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
    Video Yes
    Secondary No
    FEATURES OS BlackBerry OS 6.0
    CPU 624 MHz processor
    Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
    Browser HTML
    Radio No
    Games Yes + downloadable
    Colors Black, White
    GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java Yes, MIDP 2.0
    - BlackBerry maps
    - Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
    - Media player MP3/WMA/AAC+
    - Video player DivX/WMV/XviD/3gp
    - Organizer
    - Voice memo/dial
    - Predictive text input
    BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh
    Stand-by Up to 528 h (2G) / Up to 408 h (3G)
    Talk time Up to 6 h (2G) / Up to 6 h (3G)

    iPhone4 (GSM)
    GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
    Announced 2010, June
    Status Available. Released 2010, June
    SIZE Dimensions 115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3 mm
    Weight 137 g
    DISPLAY Type LED-backlit IPS TFT, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
    Size 640 x 960 pixels, 3.5 inches
    - Scratch-resistant oleophobic surface
    - Multi-touch input method
    - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
    - Three-axis gyro sensor
    - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
    SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
    Loudspeaker Yes
    3.5mm jack Yes, check quality
    MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records 100 received, dialed and missed calls
    Internal 16/32 GB storage, 512 MB RAM
    Card slot No
    DATA GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps
    EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps
    3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
    WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi hotspot
    Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
    Infrared port No
    USB Yes, v2.0
    CAMERA Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
    Features Touch focus, geo-tagging
    Video Yes, 720p@30fps, LED video light, geo-tagging, check quality
    Secondary Yes, videocalling over Wi-Fi only
    FEATURES OS iOS 4
    CPU 1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 processor, PowerVR SGX535GPU, Apple A4 chipset
    Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email
    Browser HTML (Safari)
    Radio No
    Games Downloadable, incl. motion-based
    Colors Black, White
    GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java No
    - MicroSIM card support only
    - Scratch-resistant glass back panel
    - Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
    - Digital compass
    - Google Maps
    - Audio/video player and editor
    - Voice command/dial
    - TV-out
    BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Po 1420mAh
    Stand-by Up to 300 h (2G) / Up to 300 h (3G)
    Talk time Up to 14 h (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)
    Music play Up to 40 h

    Anyone want to argue which phone is better?
    This doesn't answer my question, would you pay $35 more a month for 2 years just to have an iphone4? That puts it in a different market altogether here.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-08-11 11:19 AM
  17. olliegrl's Avatar
    i did stray from iphone once or twice for BB and android. i was so disappointed in both OS, that i went back to iphone.

    and i know i'm going to get the "OMG HOW CAN YOU HATE ANDROID?! RAWR RAWR RAWR!" thing, but i did hate it. so there it is.
    06-08-11 11:25 AM
  18. i7guy's Avatar
    And just for good measure let's compare specs shall we:

    BB 9780
    GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
    HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
    Announced 2010, October
    Status Available. Released 2010, November
    SIZE Dimensions 109 x 60 x 14 mm
    Weight 122 g
    DISPLAY Type TFT, 65K colors
    Size 480 x 360 pixels, 2.44 inches
    - QWERTY keyboard
    - Touch-sensitive optical trackpad
    SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
    Loudspeaker Yes
    3.5mm jack Yes, check quality
    MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records Yes
    Internal 256 MB storage, 512 MB RAM
    Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB card included, buy memory
    DATA GPRS Yes
    EDGE Yes
    3G HSDPA
    WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, UMA
    Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
    Infrared port No
    USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
    CAMERA Primary 5 MP, 2592x1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
    Video Yes
    Secondary No
    FEATURES OS BlackBerry OS 6.0
    CPU 624 MHz processor
    Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
    Browser HTML
    Radio No
    Games Yes + downloadable
    Colors Black, White
    GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java Yes, MIDP 2.0
    - BlackBerry maps
    - Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
    - Media player MP3/WMA/AAC+
    - Video player DivX/WMV/XviD/3gp
    - Organizer
    - Voice memo/dial
    - Predictive text input
    BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh
    Stand-by Up to 528 h (2G) / Up to 408 h (3G)
    Talk time Up to 6 h (2G) / Up to 6 h (3G)

    iPhone4 (GSM)
    GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
    Announced 2010, June
    Status Available. Released 2010, June
    SIZE Dimensions 115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3 mm
    Weight 137 g
    DISPLAY Type LED-backlit IPS TFT, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
    Size 640 x 960 pixels, 3.5 inches
    - Scratch-resistant oleophobic surface
    - Multi-touch input method
    - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
    - Three-axis gyro sensor
    - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
    SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
    Loudspeaker Yes
    3.5mm jack Yes, check quality
    MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records 100 received, dialed and missed calls
    Internal 16/32 GB storage, 512 MB RAM
    Card slot No
    DATA GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps
    EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps
    3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
    WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi hotspot
    Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
    Infrared port No
    USB Yes, v2.0
    CAMERA Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
    Features Touch focus, geo-tagging
    Video Yes, 720p@30fps, LED video light, geo-tagging, check quality
    Secondary Yes, videocalling over Wi-Fi only
    FEATURES OS iOS 4
    CPU 1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 processor, PowerVR SGX535GPU, Apple A4 chipset
    Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email
    Browser HTML (Safari)
    Radio No
    Games Downloadable, incl. motion-based
    Colors Black, White
    GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
    Java No
    - MicroSIM card support only
    - Scratch-resistant glass back panel
    - Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
    - Digital compass
    - Google Maps
    - Audio/video player and editor
    - Voice command/dial
    - TV-out
    BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Po 1420mAh
    Stand-by Up to 300 h (2G) / Up to 300 h (3G)
    Talk time Up to 14 h (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)
    Music play Up to 40 h

    Anyone want to argue which phone is better?
    I had to answer this on my BB because my ipad 2 had an issue with the edit control. To me that's enough said.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-08-11 11:26 AM
  19. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Alternatively, you could just pay the 99 quid for an iPhone. You're also exaggerating a bit. If you do get the more expensive plan, you do get more minutes and data. For example, to get iPhone 4 for free, you have to get the 40/month plan over 2 years, which comes with 900 minutes and 750MB of data. To get a free BB, you can sign up for the 31/month plan, but you only get 600 minutes and 500MB of data. If you get the same plan with an iPhone, you would pay 36/month and 99 for the iPhone. It's a bit more per month, 5 quid, but it's not as much as you make it out to be.

    Given the options, it seems the best deal would be to get the free iPhone for 40/month and get the extra minutes. The extra 4/month over 2 years comes out to 96 pounds, which is less than the 99 you would have to pay for the phone on the lesser plan, and you get extra minutes and data. So if you go that way, yes, the iPhone is about 9/month more than a Blackberry, but you also get 50% more minutes and data. You can also get the same 900/750 plan with a BB, which would run you 36/month, which would mean only a 4/month savings for a BB over an iPhone. For people needing the extra minutes or data, I can easily see someone opting for an iPhone, especially since once their contract is up, they can easily sell their iPhone for 100-150 pounds, maybe even more. Two year old Blackberry, not so much.

    Links:

    iPhone On Vodafone - iPhone On Pay Monthly Plans - Vodafone

    Plans
    Not really exagerating:

    Iphone 4- initial cost 99-monthly cost 36- 600 minutes-500mb-insurance 15 monthly
    Blackberry 9780- initial cost 0- monthly cost 26- 500 minutes-500mb- insurance 7.5 monthly

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-08-11 11:57 AM
  20. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    JD he is in Europe........thats where the fees come in. Carriers over there don't subsidize phones like they do here.
    They do actually, to an even greater extent than they do here. In UK for example, you can get iPhone for free if you sign up for the right plan. On Vodaphone UK, if you sign up for the 40 pound per month plan, about $70 per month, iPhone 4 is free. Unlike here though, they frequently offer the iPhone on Pay-As-You-Go plans, where you have to pay like $600 for an iPhone.
    06-08-11 11:58 AM
  21. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    Not really exagerating:

    Iphone 4- initial cost 99-monthly cost 36- 600 minutes-500mb-insurance 15 monthly
    Blackberry 9780- initial cost 0- monthly cost 26- 500 minutes-500mb- insurance 7.5 monthly

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

    That's for 9780. If you want the flagship device, the 9800, you have to sign up for the 31/month plan to get it for free. I could just as easily pick the iPhone 3GS, which is free on the 36/month plan.
    06-08-11 12:03 PM
  22. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    That's for 9780. If you want the flagship device, the 9800, you have to sign up for the 31/month plan to get it for free. I could just as easily pick the iPhone 3GS, which is free on the 36/month plan.
    Any way you look at it a blackberry will be cheaper, and that's the flagship ones, if you go for 9700 or Curve 3G it gets even cheaper

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-08-11 12:13 PM
  23. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    Any way you look at it a blackberry will be cheaper, and that's the flagship ones, if you go for 9700 or Curve 3G it gets even cheaper

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Also, nobody in their right mind would get the 36/month iPhone 4 plan. They would be basically paying more money for fewer minutes and less data. The more reasonable comparison would be with the 40/month plan, which gets you 900/750.

    Undoubtedly a BB is cheaper to own than an iPhone, but you know what? It's even cheaper to own a feature phone. People get iPhone for what it can do, and if it costs a bit more, then so be it. I hate to break it to you, but BB is no longer a high end device, and its pricing should reflect as such. It's no surprise really that it's cheaper.
    Last edited by Roo Zilla; 06-08-11 at 12:28 PM.
    06-08-11 12:24 PM
  24. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Also, nobody in their right mind would get the 36/month iPhone 4 plan. They would be basically paying more money for fewer minutes and less data. The more reasonable comparison would be with the 40/month plan, which gets you 900/750.

    Undoubtedly a BB is cheaper to own than an iPhone, but you know what? It's even cheaper to own a feature phone. People get iPhone for what it can do, and if it costs a bit more, then so be it. I hate to break it to you, but BB is no longer a high end device, and its pricing should reflect as such. It's no surprise really that it's cheaper.
    I couldn't care less, I don't choose what I use in those terms, obviously iphone is considered a bit of a luxury item.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-08-11 12:36 PM
  25. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    I couldn't care less, I don't choose what I use in those terms, obviously iphone is considered a bit of a luxury item.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    It seems from your posts that you view BB as being in the same league as iPhone, but just cheaper. I'm just trying to explain, that's not how it is. It's cheaper, because it's not in the same league. Feature phones are even cheaper than Blackberries. Why is that? It's because it's not in the same league.

    The point I'm trying to get across is that Blackberries are cheaper for a reason. Basically, they're not as good. Sure, you can go ahead and say email is better or BBM, and I can come back with a dozen other things iPhone does better and it can go back and forth. Someone will probably pop in and say "but Blackberry does everything I need it to." Which everybody knows, is a copout. A Toyota Corolla does everything a car needs to do, but people still rather have a Benz.

    When all is said and done though, the flagship Blackberry is just not in the same league as a flagship iPhone. I can't say the same about flagship Android phones, but people who think the Blackberry Torch or the Blackberry Bold is in the same league as an iPhone 4 are just deluding themselves. BBs are cheaper for a reason, and it's not because "everything made by Apple is more expensive."
    Last edited by Roo Zilla; 06-08-11 at 12:53 PM.
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