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See this is key. Its fine if folks want to say why they THINK Verizon may not get an iPhone, but for the people that state it like its fact, they sound utterly stupid. Point being, unless anyone is an Apple or Verizon board member, engineer, or tester, then they dont know wtf is going on and have no reason to make such statements as if they are fact.I think
11-25-09 10:51 AM - As Entertainment said they determine the current and near future business relationships. Do you think for a phone hypothetically coming out in June/July, a mere 7-8 months away, the negotiations with a carrier wouldnt be going on if not done already?Yea because current ads determine future business relationships
So yes, they do determine the future because you seem to think these talks with carriers happen 60 days before the launch and poof the phone is on the shelf. But the reality is that big deals like an iphone deal take place months if not a year before the phone ever launches.
This basically pretty much rules out the summer 2010 for a VZW iphone with a high level of certainty. Anything can happen, yes, but best guess from the facts are more likely not, especially with Apple ripping into VZW's network in their 2 new ads.
Lets also examine another area- mindshare. Apple pretty much revolves around mindshare and their image. Its not like their products (overall product line here) are head over heels more advanced than everyone else. But theyre well known for good service and a certain kind of mindshare with their customers which keep them buying Apple products. Do you HONESTLY think theyre going to give up that mindshare with their customers to sell out to VZW while they bash each other back and forth? Thats a HUGE basis for their business, be it iphones or other products they sell, their image. Yes, there's millions to be made on phones selling to VZW, but if they give up their main selling point of their image, have they REALLY won?Last edited by stuaw11; 11-25-09 at 12:02 PM.
11-25-09 11:53 AM - Let me guess, another your brother's cousin's dog whispered it to you
I guess youve never seen the "iDont" commercials. If that was the alternative meaning of the commercial they wouldn't be tearing into the iphone in the "iDont" Droid commercials at the same time.Hmm what a way to start saying that if we can have this much 3g coverage, think how great the iphone would perform on our carrier service. Just another way of looking at this commercial.
DING DING! We have a winner. Apple SURELY wont change their stance how they run the iphone platform (you have a better chance of becoming the next president of the US), and VZW is too stubborn to change their own ways, hence another standoff is likely. Nothing has changed with these 2 companies in a short 2 years how they do things.
Im glad that common sense flows through more people here than myself. Notice how the only people so dead set on it coming are the VZW people who are dying to own it. Us others seem to see it from the bigger picture with clearer heads since we couldnt care less if it goes to VZW or not since we'll still have it either wayLast edited by stuaw11; 11-26-09 at 10:38 PM.
11-26-09 10:27 PM - You couldnt be more wrong if you tried. Its already known the iDont commercials were Motorolas commercials and not Verizons.Let me guess, another your brother's cousin's dog whispered it to you
I guess youve never seen the "iDont" commercials. If that was the alternative meaning of the commercial they wouldn't be tearing into the iphone in the "iDont" Droid commercials at the same time.
DING DING! We have a winner. Apple SURELY wont change their stance how they run the iphone platform (you have a better chance of becoming the next president of the US), and VZW is too stubborn to change their own ways, hence another standoff is likely. Nothing has changed with these 2 companies in a short 2 years how they do things.
Im glad that common sense flows through more people here than myself. Notice how the only people so dead set on it coming are the VZW people who are dying to own it. Us others seem to see it from the bigger picture with clearer heads since we couldnt care less if it goes to VZW or not since we'll still have it either way
Also Verizon has changed alot in two years and they have changed their stance on openness. So youre flat wrong on this aspect. The Android market is untouched by Verizon. They allow any and all apps on the marketplace including, guess what, Google Voice! Cant say that for ATT/Apple. Same thing with the BlackBerry Appworld. Untouched. So try again.11-28-09 12:50 PM
. Immediate in carrier wars are in years so no soup... I mean no iPhone for Verizon in 2010. I think 
