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... you offer up these two exceptions as proof of what? No one ever claimed consumers were always right, or even right at all. But as a business you don't get credit for doing the right thing as consumers screw things up; the idea is to find an audience for your product.
This would matter if "% of sales to intelligent people" was a metric in RIM's financial results, but it's not. You get no credit for being the choice of "intelligent" people if there aren't enough intelligent people around to sustain growth. We're talking about product sales, not the incoming freshman class at Harvard; the idea is to move lots of product, not prove that your customers are smarter than others.Last edited by T�nis; 07-13-11 at 09:59 AM.
07-13-11 09:57 AMLike 0 - I would think anyone who cares about RIM would want them to perform well in terms of sales. Not a big leap there.
For what, short term "results"? At the expense of your product? If listening to idiots in the short term brings rewards but trashes your product for the long run (when the idiots finally realize how stupid they were or leave for some other reason), it could be an irreversible mistake.
Oh, and finding an audience for your product isn't a "short term" proposition at all. It's called "business."
And I would rather deliver a better quality product and make more money, so I guess that's the difference between you and me.
I disagree. Same thing I wrote above in this post applies here. Quantity is not the only thing that matters. I would rather deliver a better quality product and make less money instead of an inferior product and make more. It comes down to ethics, and before you start that sh*t about how corporations only owe their stockholders profits, and ethics don't matter, I'll say I disagree with that, too.lssanjose likes this.07-13-11 10:18 AMLike 1 -
Oh I see. You think that when I say "consumers don't care about security" you read "RIM should make itself less secure to sell devices." To be clear, I don't think anyone is claiming that RIM should make itself less secure; all we're saying is that security doesn't sell.07-13-11 10:26 AMLike 0 - This makes you the exception, not the rule. Sure, there are some people that care about security, just like there are some people that own WP7 devices. But let's be realistic. If security were important to a majority of consumers, do you think Android would sell as many devices as it does? Do you think BlackBerry share would be falling? It's not about anyone here speaking for consumers; it's about understanding consumer attitudes by examining consumer behavior.
As an example, here in the U.S. it's hard to believe a significant percentage of the population really cares about what they eat or how much exercise they get when the obesity rate keeps climbing. It's also hard to believe people care about making sound financial decisions when credit card balances keep climbing and Best Buy keeps extending their "no interest for N number of years" financing offers. I've seen these offers for as long as 3 years, which only makes financial sense for a lender if a good number of people are failing to pay their balances in that time, thus allowing the lender to charge interest on the purchase going back to the purchase date at 20+%. It's also why despite people here claiming to "love underdogs" in sports, the best TV ratings are generally for the traditional powers. Put simply, you learn to ignore what people say, and instead look at how they behave.
There are always exceptions, no one product is perfect for everyone.07-13-11 10:32 AMLike 0 -
You mentioned "reality" before, so here's some for you. There's no reason why RIM can't sit right where it is, selling 13-15 million BlackBerrys a quarter. They could stay right where they are. But if you believe RIM will get back "on top" one day, they're going to need to do more, because what they're doing right now isn't working.lssanjose likes this.07-13-11 10:42 AMLike 1 - I didn't mention RIM's stock, which is low because of RIM's negative trends (average selling price dropping, new subscriber percentage dropping, no new devices in 10 months). From what I understand, there's really no debate that RIM offers the most secure platform. So, since RIM is losing market share, it follows that most consumers must not be placing "security" at or near the top of their list of things to consider when purchasing a device.07-13-11 10:48 AMLike 0
- You mentioned "reality" before, so here's some for you. There's no reason why RIM can't sit right where it is, selling 13-15 million BlackBerrys a quarter. They could stay right where they are. But if you believe RIM will get back "on top" one day, they're going to need to do more, because what they're doing right now isn't working.
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07-13-11 11:02 AMLike 0 - I'm sure you don't bother to lock your car or house either, or did you fall for that scam too?? It's all about the govt, not the identity thieves that operate daily, right? You probably write your PIN on your ATM card because you have no cares about security. For intelligent people, security is a forethought and not ignored until after they've become a victim.
Smart people care about security, ignorant people don't...
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We should all focus on the "coprorations" and the "government" to the exclusion of all other things... Gotcha... Sounds like you should add an additional layer of tinfoil to your bunker.07-14-11 11:28 PMLike 0 -
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