1. iCTO's Avatar
    Would I be able to take the SIM Card out of my Storm and put it in an unlocked iPhone to make it work on VZW? Is it possible? Please tell me what you think.
    Thanks

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    07-06-09 11:31 PM
  2. savioAMG's Avatar
    Impossible.
    07-06-09 11:38 PM
  3. stanrc's Avatar
    No because Verizon uses CDMA, not GSM (sim cards). The reason the Storm has a sim card is so it can work internationally and with other carriers that do use a sim card. The storm is dual band, the iPhone is not.
    07-06-09 11:38 PM
  4. sniffs's Avatar
    Storm is quad band as is the iPhone.. =P

    The Storm has a SIM chip, it's called "Dual mode" meaning it'd operate on both GSM as well as CDMA frequencies.

    The band is in reference in to which frequencies it attaches to.

    On CDMA, it's attaching to 850/1900, whereas on GSM, it's attaching to 850/900/1800/1900 <- That's the quad band right there.

    Those are the same frequencies that the iPhone attaches to plus the UMTS frequencies 850/1900/2100
    Last edited by sniffs; 07-07-09 at 12:16 PM.
    07-07-09 12:12 PM
  5. dnorth's Avatar
    Can't happen. Yes, the Storm 9530 is able to use both GSM and CDMA, BUT... you can only use the SIM card it comes with if you're in Europe or somewhere out of the States. It wont connect to AT&Ts or T-Mobile's network.
    07-09-09 12:55 PM
  6. sniffs's Avatar
    Can't happen. Yes, the Storm 9530 is able to use both GSM and CDMA, BUT... you can only use the SIM card it comes with if you're in Europe or somewhere out of the States. It wont connect to AT&Ts or T-Mobile's network.
    That's not entirely true. The Storm can be unlocked to work on AT&T's GSM network. I have 2 of them working on AT&T...

    EDIT: Sorry, I thought this post was dnorth saying that the Storm won't operate on ATT/Tmobile..
    Last edited by sniffs; 07-09-09 at 03:59 PM.
    07-09-09 01:38 PM
  7. Bargsbeer's Avatar
    With Verizon' new LTE network GSM phones in theory will work on Verizon ,correct?
    07-09-09 01:46 PM
  8. mpafr012's Avatar
    That's not entirely true. The Storm can be unlocked to work on AT&T's GSM network. I have 2 of them working on AT&T...
    READ HIS POST, he wants to us an iPhone on VZW. IT CAN"T BE DONE, VZW is CDMA ONLY not GSM.
    07-09-09 03:37 PM
  9. 4catsonline's Avatar
    This is from the spec page on blackberry site for storm:

    "Wireless Networks
    UMTS/HSPA: 2100 MHz
    North America: 850 MHz GSM®/GPRS networks
    North America: 1900MHz GSM/GPRS networks
    Europe/Asia Pacific: 1800MHz GSM/GPRS networks
    Europe/Asia Pacific: 900MHz GSM/GPRS networks
    Dual-Band: 800/1900 MHz CDMA/Ev-DO networks"

    If I understand this correctly and I may be wrong
    north america uses GSM

    apple specs: iphone 3gs

    "Cellular and wireless
    UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
    Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
    Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR"

    verizon specs for storm :

    "Network Support: Dual–band 800/1900 MHz CDMA/EV–DO Rev. A networks; Quad–Band: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE networks Single–Band: 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA networks"

    So now I am really confused, verizon states GSM and UMTS which the apple iphone 3g has. So my question is:
    Why would an apple iphone 3gs not work with verizon?? I am looking hopfully for someone to explain it as apposed to just saying it won't work! thank you
    08-06-09 10:03 AM
  10. mpafr012's Avatar
    This is from the spec page on blackberry site for storm:

    "Wireless Networks
    UMTS/HSPA: 2100 MHz
    North America: 850 MHz GSM®/GPRS networks
    North America: 1900MHz GSM/GPRS networks
    Europe/Asia Pacific: 1800MHz GSM/GPRS networks
    Europe/Asia Pacific: 900MHz GSM/GPRS networks
    Dual-Band: 800/1900 MHz CDMA/Ev-DO networks"

    If I understand this correctly and I may be wrong
    north america uses GSM

    apple specs: iphone 3gs

    "Cellular and wireless
    UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
    Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
    Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR"

    verizon specs for storm :

    "Network Support: Dual–band 800/1900 MHz CDMA/EV–DO Rev. A networks; Quad–Band: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE networks Single–Band: 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA networks"

    So now I am really confused, verizon states GSM and UMTS which the apple iphone 3g has. So my question is:
    Why would an apple iphone 3gs not work with verizon?? I am looking hopfully for someone to explain it as apposed to just saying it won't work! thank you
    Verizon is only CDMA in North America. The iPhone does not have CDMA capability at all! The Storm works on CDMA only in North America, unless you get it unlocked and then you will be able to use it on EDGE 3G in North America. The Storm will only get GSM 3G outside of North America where available.
    08-06-09 10:15 AM
  11. 4catsonline's Avatar
    Thank you mpafr012 now it is clear. Does anyone ever think Iphone will come to Verizon
    08-06-09 11:51 AM
  12. Bargsbeer's Avatar
    I do believe next year when Verizon opens up their new LTE network ,It will be compatible with GSM technology.
    08-06-09 11:51 AM
  13. 4catsonline's Avatar
    thats is good to know, I do like iphone and verizon coverage
    08-06-09 11:55 AM
  14. Bargsbeer's Avatar
    If Verizon' new LTE is fully compatible with GSM like I have heard, I will be switching over, I had a Verizon workphone and it was by far the best cellphone coverage I have ever had.
    08-06-09 11:58 AM
  15. mdude85's Avatar
    I do believe next year when Verizon opens up their new LTE network ,It will be compatible with GSM technology.
    Who knows when Verizon will even roll out its LTE coverage sufficient to start accepting contracts from iPhone. And further, who even knows if Apple wants to put its iPhone on Verizon. And who knows if Verizon is willing to accept the terms from Apple?

    I can tell you there is a lot standing in the way of a Verizon/iPhone partnership, and basically the only thing giving weight to the parternship is some relatively small percentage of the consumer base.

    My guess is that we won't see an Verizon/iPhone partnership for at least 3-5 years, or maybe never.
    08-06-09 02:00 PM
  16. Bargsbeer's Avatar
    Who knows when Verizon will even roll out its LTE coverage sufficient to start accepting contracts from iPhone. And further, who even knows if Apple wants to put its iPhone on Verizon. And who knows if Verizon is willing to accept the terms from Apple?

    I can tell you there is a lot standing in the way of a Verizon/iPhone partnership, and basically the only thing giving weight to the parternship is some relatively small percentage of the consumer base.

    My guess is that we won't see an Verizon/iPhone partnership for at least 3-5 years, or maybe never.
    I don't see a partnership in the future either. But if there network opens up to GSM phones, Then I don't see why an iPhone,Nokia or Blackberry wouldn't work.
    08-06-09 02:35 PM
  17. Entertainment72's Avatar
    Verizon won't have sufficient LTE true coverage untill late 2011.. until then.. they may have what 5-10 major cities in 2010.. not good enough.
    08-06-09 02:37 PM
  18. Bargsbeer's Avatar
    Verizon won't have sufficient LTE true coverage untill late 2011.. until then.. they may have what 5-10 major cities in 2010.. not good enough.
    That's a good point to take into consideration.
    08-06-09 02:40 PM
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