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  1. artypuppy's Avatar
    I like verizon service far better than att. I used to have an iphone but I was unable to deal with att dummies, so I got myself a bb though verizen! If iphone is coming to verizon I will get one! I do miss my iphone, just far better for the music than bb!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    05-19-09 10:58 AM
  2. ERDude's Avatar
    Oh I read what you said. I guess what you didn't understand is that old news is not current proof; esp in this day and age.

    Google is your friend.
    Have you ever noticed they can never support their claims with current information?

    One would think if there was information from 2009 they'd be able to readily pull that up, instead of linking to old news. A Google (yes it is your friend) search of "Consumer Reports Sprint" they only thing that comes up is the January 2008 article. Hmm, maybe the January 2009 claim was a typo.

    All the bad press these people use to support their claims are old, pre Dan Hesse old. I have never experienced a group of people so concerned over a service they don't use, really is kind of juvenile and ridiculous.
    05-19-09 12:57 PM
  3. Lynx's Avatar
    Have you ever noticed they can never support their claims with current information?

    One would think if there was information from 2009 they'd be able to readily pull that up, instead of linking to old news. A Google (yes it is your friend) search of "Consumer Reports Sprint" they only thing that comes up is the January 2008 article. Hmm, maybe the January 2009 claim was a typo.

    All the bad press these people use to support their claims are old, pre Dan Hesse old. I have never experienced a group of people so concerned over a service they don't use, really is kind of juvenile and ridiculous.
    Here is your link for the 2009 consumer reports article. Since apparantley you "cannot find it".

    Cell phone service Ratings

    Hopefully you can view it if not ill sum it up. They researched it in 23 different cities and the ratings are based on 51,740 different samples. Of the 23 cities Sprint ranked last in 21, the 2 the werent last in was Miami and San Francisco where they were 2nd to last 1 point above ATT in Miami and 3 points above ATT in San Fran. So there is your proof. To sum it all up sprint is still the worst carrier to be with.....
    05-19-09 01:28 PM
  4. ERDude's Avatar
    Here is your link for the 2009 consumer reports article. Since apparantley you "cannot find it".

    Cell phone service Ratings

    Hopefully you can view it if not ill sum it up. They researched it in 23 different cities and the ratings are based on 51,740 different samples. Of the 23 cities Sprint ranked last in 21, the 2 the werent last in was Miami and San Francisco where they were 2nd to last 1 point above ATT in Miami and 3 points above ATT in San Fran. So there is your proof. To sum it all up sprint is still the worst carrier to be with.....
    Not a member of CR so can't read it. And, that would also explain why it's not coming up on a search.
    05-19-09 01:41 PM
  5. Lynx's Avatar
    Not a member of CR so can't read it. And, that would also explain why it's not coming up on a search.
    Ya possibly... but it was published in their Jan 2009 issue so youd think it would come up. If I could get a screen capture id put it up... but I summed it up fairly well.
    05-19-09 02:05 PM
  6. avt123's Avatar
    Oh I read what you said. I guess what you didn't understand is that old news is not current proof; esp in this day and age.

    Google is your friend.
    Too bad I'm not a member of CR, so I cant see it. Google may be my friend but not in this case.
    05-19-09 05:14 PM
  7. avt123's Avatar
    Have you ever noticed they can never support their claims with current information?

    One would think if there was information from 2009 they'd be able to readily pull that up, instead of linking to old news. A Google (yes it is your friend) search of "Consumer Reports Sprint" they only thing that comes up is the January 2008 article. Hmm, maybe the January 2009 claim was a typo.
    I have current info, I just can't see it/find it because I'm not a member of CR. And no it was not a typo, Sprint sucks. But I'm happy they are working out for you.
    05-19-09 05:15 PM
  8. Lynx's Avatar
    I have current info, I just can't see it/find it because I'm not a member of CR. And no it was not a typo, Sprint sucks. But I'm happy they are working out for you.
    I posted the article and summed it for those who dont have access to CR.
    05-19-09 05:42 PM
  9. avt123's Avatar
    I posted the article and summed it for those who dont have access to CR.
    Yea I saw that, thank you.
    05-19-09 09:09 PM
  10. stuaw11's Avatar
    Best I could do since its such a long image, screenshots wouldnt be practical. But you get the idea, and he's right Sprint was mainly dead last in all but 1 or 2 cities


    Provider Reader score Connectivity

    no service

    circuits full

    dropped calls

    static
    Atlanta
    Verizon
    79.

    T-Mobile
    71.

    AT&T
    70.

    Sprint
    66.

    Boston
    Verizon
    76.

    T-Mobile
    74.

    AT&T
    69.

    Sprint
    64.

    Charlotte, N.C.
    Alltel
    81.

    Verizon
    77.

    AT&T
    67.

    Sprint
    62.

    Chicago
    Verizon
    77.

    AT&T
    71.

    T-Mobile
    70.

    Sprint
    65.

    Cleveland
    Alltel
    79.

    Verizon
    78.

    AT&T
    71.

    Sprint
    62.

    Dallas-Ft. Worth
    Verizon
    78.

    AT&T
    75.

    T-Mobile
    74.

    Sprint
    65.

    Denver
    Verizon
    77.

    T-Mobile
    73.

    AT&T
    71.

    Sprint
    67.

    Detroit
    Verizon
    79.

    T-Mobile
    77.

    AT&T
    73.

    Sprint
    65.

    Jacksonville, Fla.
    Verizon
    81.

    T-Mobile
    75.

    AT&T
    73.

    Sprint
    64.

    Las Vegas
    Verizon
    81.

    T-Mobile
    74.

    AT&T
    72.

    Sprint
    68.

    Los Angeles
    Verizon
    78.

    T-Mobile
    68.

    AT&T
    66.

    Sprint
    65.

    Miami
    Verizon
    80.

    T-Mobile
    73.

    Sprint
    69.

    AT&T
    68.

    Minneapolis-St. Paul
    Verizon
    77.

    T-Mobile
    75.

    AT&T
    68.

    Sprint
    66.

    New York
    Verizon
    76.

    T-Mobile
    70.

    AT&T
    66.

    Philadelphia
    Verizon
    78.

    AT&T
    72.

    T-Mobile
    71.

    Sprint
    66.

    Phoenix
    Verizon
    81.

    Alltel
    81.

    T-Mobile
    76.

    AT&T
    68.

    Sprint
    66.

    San Antonio
    Verizon
    80.

    AT&T
    75.

    T-Mobile
    75.

    Sprint
    65.

    San Diego
    Verizon
    79.

    T-Mobile
    72.

    AT&T
    69.

    Sprint
    68.

    San Francisco
    Verizon
    75.

    T-Mobile
    73.

    Sprint
    69.

    AT&T
    66.

    Seattle
    Verizon
    77.

    T-Mobile
    74.

    AT&T
    68.

    Sprint
    67.

    St. Louis
    Verizon
    79.

    T-Mobile
    74.

    AT&T
    74.

    Sprint
    66.

    Tampa, Fla.
    Alltel
    81.

    Verizon
    79.

    T-Mobile
    73.

    AT&T
    73.

    Sprint
    63.

    Washington
    Verizon
    76.

    AT&T
    72.

    T-Mobile
    71.

    Sprint
    68.
    05-19-09 09:35 PM
  11. crackalackberry's Avatar
    to the OP..... do you have the code for this online training??? or the title at least so i can search for it?
    05-19-09 09:40 PM
  12. ERDude's Avatar
    I have current info, I just can't see it/find it because I'm not a member of CR. And no it was not a typo, Sprint sucks. But I'm happy they are working out for you.
    Funny that Sprint sucks according to you but according to JD Powers and Associates as of March 18, 2009 Recognizes Sprint for "Highest Call Quality Performance" in the West Region in a Tie.

    The also said Sprint has shown sequential improvement since the 2008 study, outpacing the industry average.

    Current facts and independent research put your claims to bed. This recent study certainly puts the claims of CR to bed also.
    Last edited by ERDude; 05-19-09 at 11:59 PM.
    05-19-09 11:57 PM
  13. ERDude's Avatar
    If you'd like to read more fact about Sprint and how well they're doing go to this post and follow the rest of the links.

    http://forums.crackberry.com/showthr...=1#post2599565

    Looks like your claims are put to rest.
    05-20-09 12:27 AM
  14. ScandaLeX's Avatar
    Funny that Sprint sucks according to you but according to JD Powers and Associates as of March 18, 2009 Recognizes Sprint for "Highest Call Quality Performance" in the West Region in a Tie.

    The also said Sprint has shown sequential improvement since the 2008 study, outpacing the industry average.

    Current facts and independent research put your claims to bed. This recent study certainly puts the claims of CR to bed also.
    NOW that's what I'm talkin' 'bout! Current facts- not some mess thats either a year or more OLD like it's supposed to hold some weight to support a claim!!
    05-20-09 03:20 AM
  15. Lynx's Avatar
    Funny that Sprint sucks according to you but according to JD Powers and Associates as of March 18, 2009 Recognizes Sprint for "Highest Call Quality Performance" in the West Region in a Tie.

    The also said Sprint has shown sequential improvement since the 2008 study, outpacing the industry average.

    Current facts and independent research put your claims to bed. This recent study certainly puts the claims of CR to bed also.
    I love how you fail to mention the fact that in the other 5 regions of the JD power study sprint was still in the bottom. Fanboyism at its finest... oh and also how the customer service is also rated the worst in studies done.....
    Last edited by Lynx83; 05-20-09 at 08:20 AM.
    05-20-09 08:15 AM
  16. avt123's Avatar
    Funny that Sprint sucks according to you but according to JD Powers and Associates as of March 18, 2009 Recognizes Sprint for "Highest Call Quality Performance" in the West Region in a Tie.

    The also said Sprint has shown sequential improvement since the 2008 study, outpacing the industry average.

    Current facts and independent research put your claims to bed. This recent study certainly puts the claims of CR to bed also.
    So they tie in one region and still suck in all the others? That's great news. I can care less though and I don't want this to turn into a carrier war. I just don't think Apple would put the iPhone on Sprint. It would be cool if all carriers had it though.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    05-20-09 09:46 AM
  17. Entertainment72's Avatar
    Yea, I'm starting to change my tune and hope the iPhone will be available on all carriers. I was just hoping people would go to AT&T to maximize my mobile to mobile minute savings . Greed so devious at times.
    05-20-09 10:11 AM
  18. Lynx's Avatar
    Yea, I'm starting to change my tune and hope the iPhone will be available on all carriers. I was just hoping people would go to AT&T to maximize my mobile to mobile minute savings . Greed so devious at times.
    Lol... cell phones are becoming so popular alot of people are ditching a home phone for, myself included. I just wish unlimited plans were more affordable... or that everybody was on the same network. Instead of Verizon to Verizon or ATT to ATT... what about LTE to LTE
    05-20-09 11:53 AM
  19. ERDude's Avatar
    I love how you fail to mention the fact that in the other 5 regions of the JD power study sprint was still in the bottom. Fanboyism at its finest... oh and also how the customer service is also rated the worst in studies done.....
    Where does it say Sprint was at the bottom? If you're talking about the full JD Powers report you are incorrect Fanboy, ATT&T would be at the bottom as they didn't even get an honorable mention, neither did TMO for that matter.

    Customer Service is rated the worst? Hm, guess you missed the link stating that in Q3&4 of '08 Sprint took the number 1 spot.
    05-20-09 01:25 PM
  20. Entertainment72's Avatar
    Lol... cell phones are becoming so popular alot of people are ditching a home phone for, myself included.
    I haven't had a home phone in about 10 years, I calculate over $4200 in savings and thats not calculating long distance.
    05-20-09 01:31 PM
  21. sniffs's Avatar
    Regardless of who's at the bottom. Sprint's WiMax pretty much guarantee's handset manufacturers will have to spend MORE money on developing chipsets for it, or just not at all.

    Why would they when the rest of the world will be on LTE?

    I see Sprint putting all it's dollars behind the Palm Pre which I dont believe is even WiMax compatible..

    Here's to hoping it has success.. If it doesn't, Sprint will be at the hurting end of the stick.
    05-20-09 01:32 PM
  22. Entertainment72's Avatar
    Here's to hoping it has success.. If it doesn't, Sprint will be at the hurting end of the stick.
    Here's hoping for Sprint and Pre to be a great success, competition loves consumers and vice versa. I hope there are no mergers in the next 5 years, I doubt it but hopeful.
    05-20-09 01:43 PM
  23. Lynx's Avatar
    Where does it say Sprint was at the bottom? If you're talking about the full JD Powers report you are incorrect Fanboy, ATT&T would be at the bottom as they didn't even get an honorable mention, neither did TMO for that matter.

    Customer Service is rated the worst? Hm, guess you missed the link stating that in Q3&4 of '08 Sprint took the number 1 spot.
    Really took the number 1 spot????

    See our first customer service Ratings for cellular carriers

    um to me that looks like dead last, and not even close to being there either. And dont say that oh blah blah its consumer reports. 51,700 people reviewing something from all over the united states is better than roomful of people. also note that if you go to the JD power website and search, sprint is still the near the bottom in 5 out of 6 areas. I also love how I called you out for being a sprint fanboy and you tried to call me a fanboy, yet I have stated no allegiance to one carrier. I merely stated that Sprint is the worst all around, which I have almost 52k people backing me up in that claim
    05-20-09 01:49 PM
  24. hotrodcorb's Avatar
    So what does this argument have to do with the iphone. This thread has become a carrier debate and has nothing to do with the original topic.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    05-20-09 01:53 PM
  25. sniffs's Avatar
    This one time in band camp...
    05-20-09 01:57 PM
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