1. nadz.1's Avatar
    Well the Iphone 4 has been announced and those of you hoping that it will have Adobe flash support I have some bad news.......it doesn't and never will.

    Mr Jobs has said that adobe flash is too buggy and processor hungry and therfor will not be allowing Adobe flash support on its devices.

    I personally am gutted by this annoucement as majority of websites use some form of flash and the fact the IPhone will not support this means that our browsing experience will not be 100% desktop like...

    With Android phones already supporting flash and working with Adobe to optimize the flash experience, it tempts me in trying the Andriod phones.

    If IPhone 4 had full flash support and 4G connectivity it would be the best phone ever IMHO.

    What are your thoughts about IPhone 4 not supporting flash and no 4G???

    Is it enough for you to not want to buy one??

    I'd like to see what your thoughts are on this one
    06-13-10 08:58 AM
  2. fabuloso's Avatar
    Flash isn't a big deal for everyone. How many sites still use flash these days? And let's think about big sites that haven't already made their sites mobile friendly without the use of flash? Many who are flash heads only seem to care for it because of the games and movies, but Apple has made it easy by creating apps to replace flash. Or so that's how I see it.

    If I desperately need flash, I have my PC for that.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-13-10 09:28 AM
  3. flashman03's Avatar
    Sorry but in know way did you break this story. Most people who are iPhone users are happy by the lack of flash support. If you would look at a recent review of the iPhone v. EvO 4G v. Droid you would see that flash isnt very good on the phone.
    06-13-10 10:25 AM
  4. nadz.1's Avatar
    Sorry but in know way did you break this story. Most people who are iPhone users are happy by the lack of flash support. If you would look at a recent review of the iPhone v. EvO 4G v. Droid you would see that flash isnt very good on the phone.
    It's not about breaking this story, I coudnt care less... I wanted to find out peoples views on if people were happy the fact that their IPhones did not support flash.

    What about sites that play videos on Hulu or Megavideo, can these vidoes currently be played on IPhone or the upcoming IPhone 4??
    06-13-10 11:25 AM
  5. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    If flash worked well, of course I'd be happy to have it.

    I have never seen it on an iPhone, so I'm forced to take SJ's word that it doesn't work well.
    I want the FULL web in my pocket.

    Maybe Adobe should put up or shut up, and demonstrate to the world a flash player that works well on an iPhone. Make it available to jail broken devices, circumventing the app store if SJ still doesn't give in.
    Then, peoples successful, real world experience would compel Apple to include it.
    Last edited by LazyStarGazer; 06-13-10 at 11:54 AM.
    06-13-10 11:48 AM
  6. Crucial_Xtreme's Avatar
    I don't have to have flash, and could honestly care less... HTML 5 is sufficient. Have a look at Youtube with HTML 5.. It works as well as flash if not better.-->
    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
    06-13-10 12:24 PM
  7. Duvi's Avatar
    Oh wait... there's no flash? Are you serious? The
    exact thing iPhone users haven't had since '07 and
    still are happy with their iPhone devices?

    It seems the ones who care about flash more are
    people who don't have an iPhone. No flash on the
    iPhone? Well Zynga will be making an app for
    FarmVille now. They already have the Poker app.
    You mentioned Hulu, but they are blocking Android
    devices that support flash, but guess what? The
    are making an iPhone for the iPhone. People are
    either making an app for the iPhone or using HTML5
    so flash isn't needed.

    I have a question for you... Why does it matter to
    you what iPhone users think about their device
    never getting flash? Just curious.
    06-13-10 01:23 PM
  8. asr10 user's Avatar
    As much as I wanted flash coming from my BB, I was set on getting an Android. But I only wanted flash for the games, and it seems like every game has an app on the Iphone.
    06-13-10 02:04 PM
  9. nadz.1's Avatar
    Oh wait... there's no flash? Are you serious? The
    exact thing iPhone users haven't had since '07 and
    still are happy with their iPhone devices?

    It seems the ones who care about flash more are
    people who don't have an iPhone. No flash on the
    iPhone? Well Zynga will be making an app for
    FarmVille now. They already have the Poker app.
    You mentioned Hulu, but they are blocking Android
    devices that support flash, but guess what? The
    are making an iPhone for the iPhone. People are
    either making an app for the iPhone or using HTML5
    so flash isn't needed.

    I have a question for you... Why does it matter to
    you what iPhone users think about their device
    never getting flash? Just curious.
    Well I've never owned an Iphone and I thought that without flash support users do not get a full web browsing experience. I understand HTML5 is now being pushed, but are all websites moving in this direction of using html5??

    I ask because I am considering purchasing an IPhone to use along with my BB and wanted to find out current IPhone users views on the lack of flash support on the IPhone.

    At the moment it seems as though, it doesnt bother anyone...
    06-13-10 02:05 PM
  10. Crucial_Xtreme's Avatar
    Well I've never owned an Iphone and I thought that without flash support users do not get a full web browsing experience. I understand HTML5 is now being pushed, but are all websites moving in this direction of using html5??

    I ask because I am considering purchasing an IPhone to use along with my BB and wanted to find out current IPhone users views on the lack of flash support on the IPhone.

    At the moment it seems as though, it doesnt bother anyone...
    Right now, Apple has the best mobile browsing platform available. HTML 5 is open and being pushed by many. No flash on the Iphone isn't and hasn't deterred anyone from getting said device. It gets along just fine without it. Try it and you'll like it. )
    06-13-10 02:19 PM
  11. crackvegas78's Avatar
    To the OP, here is the real news flash. iPhone owners don't give a crap about Flash. If they really did they would not have gotten the iPhone in the first place. And I really don't know what you were thinking in you opening post saying that people were hoping the i4 would support flash. Not one single person who knows anything about the iPhone or Apple thought that this would ever happen. And as for the web, within a few years HTML 5 will be the standard and Flash will be all but dead. It's funny to me that the same people that hate on Apple for being closed then rush to defend Adobe. Flash is not an open standard, it is a proprietary piece of software and the only reason that Adobe is fighting to get it on the iPhone is that they want to make more money.
    06-13-10 02:22 PM
  12. flashman03's Avatar
    Well the Iphone 4 has been announced and those of you hoping that it will have Adobe flash support I have some bad news.......it doesn't and never will.

    Mr Jobs has said that adobe flash is too buggy and processor hungry and therfor will not be allowing Adobe flash support on its devices.

    I personally am gutted by this annoucement as majority of websites use some form of flash and the fact the IPhone will not support this means that our browsing experience will not be 100% desktop like...

    With Android phones already supporting flash and working with Adobe to optimize the flash experience, it tempts me in trying the Andriod phones.

    If IPhone 4 had full flash support and 4G connectivity it would be the best phone ever IMHO.

    What are your thoughts about IPhone 4 not supporting flash and no 4G???

    Is it enough for you to not want to buy one??

    I'd like to see what your thoughts are on this one
    Well I've never owned an Iphone and I thought that without flash support users do not get a full web browsing experience. I understand HTML5 is now being pushed, but are all websites moving in this direction of using html5??

    I ask because I am considering purchasing an IPhone to use along with my BB and wanted to find out current IPhone users views on the lack of flash support on the IPhone.

    At the moment it seems as though, it doesnt bother anyone...
    I dont see where in your very first post you suggest you are wanting to buy one. A simple search would have revealed the answer to your question about whether or not flash not being on the iPhone was an issue. Im sure you have played with an iPhone before, and if you havent drop by the store and see if you like it.
    06-13-10 04:45 PM
  13. Username00089's Avatar
    It doesn't bother me one bit. I was using an Evo for a week and didn't even try
    flash. It's just not a big deal to me. Now lookin' forward to getting a 4th gen
    iPhone and no flash is no biggie for me.
    06-13-10 05:05 PM
  14. nadz.1's Avatar
    Well I hope that html5 does become the standard ONLY if it can match what Adobe has achieved with flash, having said that I still see it taking a long time before this happens, at least 5 years!! By then we will be on IPhone 9G.

    Why release a product (I4) only supporting a platform that is still in its early stages, It would of made more sence supporting both flash and html5 until html5 had advanced

    Found this video very interesting about html5 and IPad, the part where the guys uses apples own website to demonstrate html5 LMAO......





    I hope that there are videos out there showing a better demonstration of html5!

    And again, I get the impression that most users here don't care about flash and thats fine, but with me I want the ability to stream shows from sites that use flash players so until these sites start using html5 it does bother me.
    06-13-10 06:28 PM
  15. fearmychickens's Avatar
    Well I hope that html5 does become the standard ONLY if it can match what Adobe has achieved with flash, having said that I still see it taking a long time before this happens, at least 5 years!! By then we will be on IPhone 9G.
    We definitely won't see HTML5 for a long time. I don't care about flash but I've tried it on my phone and surprisingly, it works well. I keep it off because the sites I go on don't require it but it's nice. There are people on DroidForums that got Hulu working on their phones and they're saying it's great.

    Could care less about HTML5. I wanna see how well flash plays once it's out of beta. And this is coming from someone who's never even cared for flash. Don't knock it till you try it.
    06-13-10 06:36 PM
  16. Duvi's Avatar
    Well I've never owned an Iphone and I thought that without flash support users do not get a full web browsing experience. I understand HTML5 is now being pushed, but are all websites moving in this direction of using html5??

    I ask because I am considering purchasing an IPhone to use along with my BB and wanted to find out current IPhone users views on the lack of flash support on the IPhone.

    At the moment it seems as though, it doesnt bother anyone...
    Gotcha... just wanting to know why the question.

    I'm sure there are some iPhone owners or future owners that may want flash, but a majority of them isn't making that the reason they will or won't be the device. The main reason IMHO is because all the majority flash content websites are switching to html5, making apps for the iPhone/iPad and/or are making their site iPhone friendly so it can play in the iPhone's video player.

    Well I hope that html5 does become the standard ONLY if it can match what Adobe has achieved with flash, having said that I still see it taking a long time before this happens, at least 5 years!! By then we will be on IPhone 9G.

    Why release a product (I4) only supporting a platform that is still in its early stages, It would of made more sence supporting both flash and html5 until html5 had advanced

    Found this video very interesting about html5 and IPad, the part where the guys uses apples own website to demonstrate html5 LMAO......





    I hope that there are videos out there showing a better demonstration of html5!

    And again, I get the impression that most users here don't care about flash and thats fine, but with me I want the ability to stream shows from sites that use flash players so until these sites start using html5 it does bother me.
    What sites do you visit that you need flash for and that you can not wait to get to a PC?
    06-13-10 11:16 PM
  17. sublime187's Avatar
    porno ......
    06-14-10 04:54 AM
  18. nadz.1's Avatar
    Well the sites I would like to know if they work are:

    Project Free TV - Watch all your favorite tv shows and movies online free
    Stream online shows such as Lost, 24 and others...

    Video Search Engine - Blinkx
    Again same thing.

    BBC SPORT
    To watch videos embedded in website, such as Match of the Day, Formula 1, Tennis and Snooker. This is different to watching on Iplayer as to my knowledge, some sports run live and I would like the ability to watch such shows when on the move.

    Can someone confirm if these sites play video on IPhones and also how well they work.

    06-14-10 05:09 AM
  19. spawn026's Avatar
    everyone complaining about official flash jailbreak and wait for this
    Real Flash on the iPhone! [VIDEO]
    06-14-10 07:20 AM
  20. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    everyone complaining about official flash jailbreak and wait for this
    Real Flash on the iPhone! [VIDEO]
    I'd try it.
    06-14-10 11:38 AM
  21. Duvi's Avatar
    porno ......
    Whether this was a joke or not, sites are actually
    optimized for the iPhone. From what I've heard ,
    it plays in the built in player on the phone.

    I'm seriously never tried or do I watch it, so if I'm
    wrong, I apologize, but two of my good friends
    who have them said it does... one is female and
    the other a male.
    06-14-10 11:54 AM
  22. dknyberry's Avatar
    My wife and I both have iPhones, and we both would like it if they had Flash. There are some websites that require it, so yes, there are people with iPhones who DO care about Flash.
    06-14-10 05:28 PM
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