06-10-11 01:31 AM
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  1. gbsn's Avatar
    Cops or anybody can do nothing with a password locked blackberry as a complete wipe and rewrite is performed if you enter the password wrong a few times.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Right... entering the password, the brightest solution ever.
    06-07-11 08:46 AM
  2. Rickroller's Avatar
    Hmmm, how about your location for the last year? Did you miss the news a few weeks ago? A whole forensic industry evolved around the hidden file within the iphone.
    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Soo...they can see you've been to the coffee shop..went to the mall..seen a movie OMG! Or they can see you've been visiting the local drug dealer on the corner of Hooker and Blow..ahh ok. I can see how you wouldn't want that incriminating you..lol.

    The whole "tracking" thing is ridiculous anyways imo..look at how many "social apps" post your location nowadays anyways..and people do it VOLUNTARILY. "So and So just become the mayor of 5th street".
    06-07-11 08:46 AM
  3. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Soo...they can see you've been to the coffee shop..went to the mall..seen a movie OMG! Or they can see you've been visiting the local drug dealer on the corner of Hooker and Blow..ahh ok. I can see how you wouldn't want that incriminating you..lol.

    The whole "tracking" thing is ridiculous anyways imo..look at how many "social apps" post your location nowadays anyways..and people do it VOLUNTARILY. "So and So just become the mayor of 5th street".
    Obviously you haven't lived under a dictator. Sure, maybe they can install a camera in your bedroom, you have nothing to hide right? And look how many people post their home made porn videos anyway, voluntarily.

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    Last edited by belfastdispatcher; 06-07-11 at 08:55 AM.
    06-07-11 08:50 AM
  4. Economist101's Avatar
    Hmmm, how about your location for the last year? Did you miss the news a few weeks ago? A whole forensic industry evolved around the hidden file within the iphone.
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    The data you're referring to wasn't "location" as much as it was nearby cell towers and wi-fi hotspots. As for the "last year," the data collection was adjusted to shorten the period for which data is kept, and if you turn off "location services," no data is collected.
    06-07-11 08:55 AM
  5. Rickroller's Avatar
    Obviously you haven't lived under a dictator. Sure, maybe they can install a camera in your bedroom, you have nothing to hide right? And look how many people post their home made porn videos anyway, voluntarily.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    You're right.I haven't lived under a dictator. If I was a Navy Seal (I've heard they all use BBM to coordinate their attacks/ keep track of all party members via PING) or if I was a ninja and didn't want my opposing clan members finding my secret lair high in the mountain tops..then I would seriously consider against any of these "other" phones. But I'm only speaking for us more regular folk who live in cities and suburbs.
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    06-07-11 09:01 AM
  6. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    The data you're referring to wasn't "location" as much as it was nearby cell towers and wi-fi hotspots. As for the "last year," the data collection was adjusted to shorten the period for which data is kept, and if you turn off "location services," no data is collected.
    Yeah, now, after they've been exposed, or their "bug" was. I wouldn't be surprised if the "bug" will find its way back in a future update.

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    06-07-11 09:03 AM
  7. X_iPod-BB's Avatar
    This might actually make RIM Sales dip -- people buy Blackberry's purely for BBM. So what happens when the other wannabe devices step in? People think "I don't NEED a blackberry now; I can get BBM on (insertrandomwannabedevicehere) so I'm all good!"

    Pretty sad really.
    06-07-11 09:08 AM
  8. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    You're right.I haven't lived under a dictator. If I was a Navy Seal (I've heard they all use BBM to coordinate their attacks/ keep track of all party members via PING) or if I was a ninja and didn't want my opposing clan members finding my secret lair high in the mountain tops..then I would seriously consider against any of these "other" phones. But I'm only speaking for us more regular folk who live in cities and suburbs.
    Maybe you'd have to explain why your daily commute brings you beside some known terrorist's(pedofile, racist, drug dealer) location and why you stop there for 5 minutes every day and why they should take your word for it. Guilty by association. Maybe you'll lose your job over it even if you're innocent, maybe people will look at you with suspicion any way, cuz there's no smoke without fire right? It's not like this never happened before.

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    06-07-11 09:08 AM
  9. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    This might actually make RIM Sales dip -- people buy Blackberry's purely for BBM. So what happens when the other wannabe devices step in? People think "I don't NEED a blackberry now; I can get BBM on (insertrandomwannabedevicehere) so I'm all good!"

    Pretty sad really.
    People that buy blackberrys for BbM are the ones buying the budget blackberrys, 8500s, 9300s, Pearl 3g on pre pay.
    These people are in a completely different price range.

    Iphone 4 on vodafone uk- free on contract from 40 a month
    Blackberry 9780 and Torch - free from 25 a month
    15 a month extra for 2 years, not to mention the higher insurance cost.

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    06-07-11 09:14 AM
  10. JFTeran's Avatar
    idk what so many iPhone fan boys are doing here... go to TiPb or something...
    06-07-11 10:16 AM
  11. Economist101's Avatar
    Yeah, now, after they've been exposed, or their "bug" was. I wouldn't be surprised if the "bug" will find its way back in a future update.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    I'm sure you'll let us all know if it does. In the meantime, you really have nothing about which to complain on this particular issue.
    06-07-11 10:37 AM
  12. Economist101's Avatar
    Maybe you'd have to explain why your daily commute brings you beside some known terrorist's(pedofile, racist, drug dealer) location and why you stop there for 5 minutes every day and why they should take your word for it. Guilty by association. Maybe you'll lose your job over it even if you're innocent, maybe people will look at you with suspicion any way, cuz there's no smoke without fire right? It's not like this never happened before.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    I hate to nitpick, but it's "terrorists," not "terrorist's," "pedophile," not "pedofile," and if you live in a country where you'd lose your job *just* for making a 5-minute stop near a racist, move. Next issue.
    06-07-11 10:42 AM
  13. avt123's Avatar
    Maybe you'd have to explain why your daily commute brings you beside some known terrorist's(pedofile, racist, drug dealer) location and why you stop there for 5 minutes every day and why they should take your word for it. Guilty by association. Maybe you'll lose your job over it even if you're innocent, maybe people will look at you with suspicion any way, cuz there's no smoke without fire right? It's not like this never happened before.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    LOL. I guess everyone living in urban areas should just never leave their homes...
    06-07-11 10:51 AM
  14. ADGrant's Avatar
    If your circle of friends uses BBM and BlackBerry devices and you get an iOS device, you cannot use iMessages to chat with your friends unless they too have iOS devices.

    iMessages is not really competition for BBM, it is more of a compelling feature for social circles who use iOS
    Unfortunately, my circle of friends mostly uses iPhones. I can communicate with one friend over BBM to his work BB but his personal phone is an iPhone.

    I can't even use BBM on my work BB, our BES admins have disabled it. Much as I love the physical form factor and UI of my Blackberries, this might be the final nail in the coffin for my personal BB (iCloud doesn't hurt either).
    06-07-11 10:57 AM
  15. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    I hate to nitpick, but it's "terrorists," not "terrorist's," "pedophile," not "pedofile," and if you live in a country where you'd lose your job *just* for making a 5-minute stop near a racist, move. Next issue.
    I did lol.

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    06-07-11 10:57 AM
  16. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    LOL. I guess everyone living in urban areas should just never leave their homes...
    I was exaggerating of course, but where do you draw the line to invading privacy?

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    06-07-11 10:58 AM
  17. avt123's Avatar
    I love the tags... So much unnecessary hate.
    06-07-11 10:58 AM
  18. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Unfortunately, my circle of friends mostly uses iPhones. I can communicate with one friend over BBM to his work BB but his personal phone is an iPhone.

    I can't even use BBM on my work BB, our BES admins have disabled it. Much as I love the physical form factor and UI of my Blackberries, this might be the final nail in the coffin for my personal BB (iCloud doesn't hurt either).
    Except ICould is really just ISync as not much gets stored in the cloud, photos and only for 30 days. That's not exactly cloud.

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    06-07-11 11:00 AM
  19. avt123's Avatar
    I was exaggerating of course, but where do you draw the line to invading privacy?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Well if the feds are following you like that, there obviously isn't privacy anymore.

    As technology advances, privacy declines. It sucks.
    06-07-11 11:02 AM
  20. ADGrant's Avatar
    Every time I switch phones, I always end up back on my blackberry for four reasons:

    - Physical keyboard
    - Profiles
    - Notification LED
    - Stellar battery life

    I don't understand what's so great about BBM (haven't used it) but these things always keep me coming back. Also, I just feel faster using my bold. And trust me, I've tried them all. I can't stand the slow pace of innovation, but they do these few things so right that I can't get away.
    Those things have kept me using a personal BB but it's really all about the keyboard for me.
    06-07-11 11:22 AM
  21. BlackBerry.est08's Avatar
    Those things have kept me using a personal BB but it's really all about the keyboard for me.
    Keyboard is an important factor for me as well but if I have no contacts in BBM, I don't think a keyboard is going to keep me from moving an iPhone, it's not that important.
    06-07-11 12:21 PM
  22. rollingrock1988's Avatar
    Oh, and the sad part is how many of these things RIM has done for a while now, if not years.

    1. Contacts, email-setup, calendars, etc. synced across devices.
    2. Third-party integration into OS services
    3. Wi-fi music/media sync
    4. Centralized notification bar and service into which all apps can plug into
    5. BBM

    [shakes head] RIM is going to go down as a business-school case as to how not to run your company. Establish a dominant position in the marketplace, rest on your laurels while competitors eat your market share from out under you, and then don't respond fast enough.
    I have to say, I think this statement is a bit trollish. Many people have stated that iphone users will talk about how awesome iMessenger is and how before iMessenger they ragged on BBM.

    Let me turn the tables:
    CB users have stated that iphones are just toys and not good for communications. Now that Apple is making all these changes to ios, things that have been on other platforms for years, people are saying that they are copy cats.

    Apple is pulling their platform together. It is maturing and mixing in features that people also want, on top of the other services that Apple already offers.

    I guess I just see iOS 5 as a move forward for the iPhone. Adding important features for everyone, kids, business users, consumers etc. They are making the iPhone and it's features universal. It is becoming a communications device, while still enjoying a nice suite of multimedia features.
    06-07-11 12:35 PM
  23. Questionmark's Avatar
    I don't understand how people think that BBM is free. It uses data (though only a small amount) and if used internationally, you will pay roaming data fees.
    06-07-11 01:55 PM
  24. jd914's Avatar
    Lolwut? And what data are the cops going to be looking for? Your contact list so they can start spamming your contacts? Maybe they're going to steal any credit card info you have so they can do some online shopping..lol..give me a break.

    Oh wait..your a drug dealer and don't want your messages incriminating you read? Ahh..I see now. If your in the drug business and all's you can afford is a Pearl you might want to find a new line of work mmmkay?
    Well said!

    His reply (PlaybookPlayboy) which was directed at me was so asinine I didn't even want to address such ignorance.
    06-07-11 02:03 PM
  25. _StephenBB81's Avatar
    I don't understand how people think that BBM is free. It uses data (though only a small amount) and if used internationally, you will pay roaming data fees.

    As someone who travels,
    I have done testing with multiple IM clients while traveling to minimize my cost and BBM consistently uses 1/2-1/4 the data of other IM applications,

    so it is the cheapest option, though I agree it isn't free,
    06-07-11 02:07 PM
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