- avt123O.G.There's been a lot of talk over the last couple of years — especially by Samsung during the course of its recent patent infringement trial — that Apple has obtained design patent coverage on rectangular devices with rounded corners. While that may not have been true before, it is now. The US Patent and Trademark Office issued patent no. D670,286 to Apple yesterday and it really does cover the outer edge shape of a device. There's no other way to look at it.
As we've explained before, the scope of a design patent is defined by the drawings, and the solid lines are what counts —the dashed lines are just there for context. As you can see below, the 'D286 patent has a lot of gratuitous context but just a single solid line defining what is being protected.
Previous design patents on the iPad and iPhone have included at least one additional feature in solid lines — like the home button, the back surface contour, the bezel shape, the side profile, or the edge-to-edge screen. This one ignores all of that and simply focuses on the shape of that peripheral edge. It's a broad patent. Really broad. Granted, an argument can be made that the horizontal and vertical lengths of the solid edge line in the drawings limits the patent coverage to a specific proportional design that excludes tablets with different aspect ratios, but you wouldn't want that to be your primary defense.
IT IS POSSIBLE FOR A PATENT TO BE TOO BROAD TO ACTUALLY USE
Will Apple ever use this patent against its competitors? Maybe, but there's an inherent downside to asserting a patent like this: it's vulnerable to invalidity arguments. The narrower a patent is the harder it is to find prior art devices or publications that have everything you need to knock it out. Conversely, the broader the patent the easier it is to come up with something that a judge or jury (or even the patent office) can use to invalidate it. Even though Apple submitted hundreds of prior art documents while this patent was being reviewed by the USPTO, it sure feels like a weapon too fragile for battle. It could very well just be a let's-see-what-we-can-get patent with no real offensive future. We'll see.
The USPTO needs to be reformed. This is beyond ridiculous. If Apple uses this patent in any suit, I hope it gets thrown out of court immediately.
The fact that a patent like this is allowed shows how hard up the USPTO is for Apple. With a patent this broad being passed, I wouldn't be surprised if they can patent basically anything now.
I love my Apple products and think they are great, but every ridiculous patent Apple gets makes me like them less and less. They claim other companies are stealing from them, while Apple is stealing common sense.el_excelsior and 00stryder like this.11-07-12 05:43 PMLike 2 - Apple finally gets its patent on a rectangle with rounded corners | The Verge
The USPTO needs to be reformed. This is beyond ridiculous. If Apple uses this patent in any suit, I hope it gets thrown out of court immediately.
The fact that a patent like this is allowed shows how hard up the USPTO is for Apple. With a patent this broad being passed, I wouldn't be surprised if they can patent basically anything now.
I love my Apple products and think they are great, but every ridiculous patent Apple gets makes me like them less and less. They claim other companies are stealing from them, while Apple is stealing common sense.11-07-12 05:59 PMLike 0 - This is a DESIGN PATENT, which is not the same thing as a UTILITY PATENT. The purpose of a design patent is to prevent people from making exact copies of your stuff. Just about anybody who creates any distinctive design applies for a design patent. Just about everything you see made by a major manufacturer probably has a design patent. I'm sure Blackberries have design patents too. Here's one for a Blackberry:
RIM Blackberry Phone Design Patent
Does that mean nobody else can make a phone that has a keyboard and a trackball? Of course not. You just can't make it exactly the same as outlined in the design patent. Design patents are narrowly defined. You really have to go out of your way to copy someone else's design to get caught for infringing it. Just using "rounded corners" is not going to do it. You'll pretty much have to follow the design to the letter. Some other items that have design patents registered are things like PS3, the boxes the Big Mac and your fries come in, a Tiffany lamp.el_excelsior likes this.11-07-12 06:31 PMLike 1 -
- They dotted the I's and crossed the T's and some government monkey, seeing that the bureaucratic nonsense was in order, approved it. It's merely a design patent, it's indefensible and will ultimately be invalidated.el_excelsior likes this.11-08-12 06:01 AMLike 1
- Why? Design patents are granted for almost anything. The straw at you get McDonald's has a design patent. Why doesn't anybody complain about that? Does that mean nobody else can make a straw? No, it just means you can't make it exactly the same as the one made by McDonald's.11-09-12 12:47 PMLike 0
- avt123O.G.Why? Design patents are granted for almost anything. The straw at you get McDonald's has a design patent. Why doesn't anybody complain about that? Does that mean nobody else can make a straw? No, it just means you can't make it exactly the same as the one made by McDonald's.
How hard is this to understand?11-09-12 11:03 PMLike 0 - Because this is a ridiculously broad patent. No one cares about straws. People care about their smartphones. There have been smartphones before the iPhone that are rectangles with rounded corners. Apple did not invent the rectangle with rounded corners. The patent is so broad that basically every touchscreen device looks exactly like the figure shown.
How hard is this to understand?
Sent from my 4s using TapaTalk11-10-12 11:55 AMLike 0 - im sure someone from the USPTO is on apple's bankroll. blows my mind how they can approve something so ridiculous.11-10-12 12:44 PMLike 0
- Because this is a ridiculously broad patent. No one cares about straws. People care about their smartphones. There have been smartphones before the iPhone that are rectangles with rounded corners. Apple did not invent the rectangle with rounded corners. The patent is so broad that basically every touchscreen device looks exactly like the figure shown.
How hard is this to understand?
Is the patent overly broad? Perhaps, but the fact of the matter is, NOBODY had such a design before this patent was applied for, which makes the design unique. Yes, the design of the iPad seems obvious now, but that's now, and not when the patent was originally applied for. That's the important part. When the design patent was applied for, there was nothing like it.11-10-12 03:12 PMLike 0 - 11-10-12 07:35 PMLike 0
- With apple stock tanking by 20% over the last month and a half I dont blame them in their sneaky tactics to secure revenue. Lets face it apple is stagnant and releasing the same cr@p over and over in slightly different hardware formats. They are following Rims old playbook by the looks of it. The prospects for Android win8 and bb10 just getting better.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 211-10-12 07:52 PMLike 0 - avt123O.G.
I'm not confusing anything. One again, all I am saying is that something this broad should not be able to be patented.
Anything that has a unique shape, or trade dress can be granted a DESIGN PATENT.
Does nobody care about straws? What about all the other fast food vendors? I'm pretty sure their customers would be pretty ticked off if they couldn't get a straw at say Wendy's. Yet Wendy's offers straws to their customers... That's because the Wendy's straw doesn't look exactly like a McDonald's straw. McDonald's didn't apply for a UTILITY PATENT on their straw, they applied for a DESIGN PATENT, which was granted to them. That doesn't prevent anybody else from making a straw, which is basically a hollowed out tube of plastic, it prevents them from using the same stripe and color pattern.
How hard is it to understand the concept of, "it's a unique design, you got a design patent."
Is the patent overly broad? Perhaps, but the fact of the matter is, NOBODY had such a design before this patent was applied for, which makes the design unique. Yes, the design of the iPad seems obvious now, but that's now, and not when the patent was originally applied for. That's the important part. When the design patent was applied for, there was nothing like it.
Introduced in September 2010.
You don't see the resemblance? Looks like a rectangle with round corners to me. I don't know exact it has to be but that pretty close.
There were other tablets in production around that time that have the same style. Not to mention smartphones.11-12-12 12:09 AMLike 0
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