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  1. reeneebob's Avatar
    Ok. Now you're stretching a bit. The first android device was the G1 (HTC dream) in October of 2008. Google development prior to that is as irrelevant as Apples development of iOS prior to 2007. Also, if you look at android development month prior to the iPhone you'll see pretty quickly that it was more of a blackberry clone than anywhere close to iOS. A simple non touchscreen portrait keyboard device.

    As soon as Android can keep my Desktop, Tablet and phone in perfect sync (everything, not just contacts and calendar), and as soon as a manufacturer actually supports the device beyond 6 months let me know & maybe i'll take it seriously. Not until the fragmentation is addressed though.
    Did you see that picture that floated around a couple months back that showed the fragmentation of Android? It represented perfectly my issue with it.


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    06-12-12 10:40 AM
  2. apengue1's Avatar
    Well, when your OS is a direct copy of iOS you'd expect a few features to be duplicated wouldn't you
    So its only copying when other companies do it? When Apple copies and plays catch-up, what adjective would you use in this case?
    06-12-12 10:41 AM
  3. anon3700711's Avatar
    Android is the number one OS on earth and is used by more people then iOS.
    06-12-12 10:42 AM
  4. anon3700711's Avatar
    As soon as Android can keep my Desktop, Tablet and phone in perfect sync (everything, not just contacts and calendar)
    Yeah, it already can. It's called Google Sync and Dropbox, you should try it sometime.
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    06-12-12 10:46 AM
  5. xandermac's Avatar
    Android is the number one OS on earth and is used by more people then iOS.
    Yes it is, and if it weren't for the iPhone this is what you would have.

    See one of Google's first Android builds on the 2007 Sooner phone (update) | The Verge

    That's the phone Google "intended" to release in 2008! Not very advanced to be honest. They shifted gear pretty quick to copy (compete) with Apple. Sorry....
    Last edited by xandermac; 06-12-12 at 10:52 AM.
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    06-12-12 10:47 AM
  6. apengue1's Avatar
    Wonder how many of the people posting in this thread actually took the time to watch the presentation? I did, and it only reinforces my opinion that Apple produces superior devices.
    Yes I watched it. I can't blame you, really. I think all reps that go up on stage get extensive training in language and body language, tone of voice, and their overall aura.. It makes most people feel better than they should, and it puts certain ideas into your head.

    Apple is genius at marketing, and the above described pretty basic but genius marketing traits, so to disagree with me would mean you dont think much of your favorite company's marketing team.
    06-12-12 10:53 AM
  7. xandermac's Avatar
    Yeah, it already can. It's called Google Sync and Dropbox, you should try it sometime.
    Yeauh, that's EXACTLY it!.....
    06-12-12 10:53 AM
  8. anon3700711's Avatar
    Did you happen to read the article?

    Update: Diane Hackthorn, an employee of Google's Android engineering group, has posted a comment on OSNews in response to Steven Troughton-Smith's post saying that his impressions are "a little misleading." Hackthorn says she joined the Android team in 2006, and explains that the Dream (also known as the T-Mobile G1) and the Sooner "were basically the same." Hackthorn says they merely look different on the face because the UI on the Sooner was optimized for non-touch input, but that the underlying code is the same version of Android. Additionally, she says "I don't recall the exact dates, but I believe the decision to drop Sooner was well before the iPhone announcement."
    This is gold. I love when people cite articles and then get owned by their own citing.
    Last edited by CatlinFD; 06-12-12 at 10:58 AM.
    06-12-12 10:55 AM
  9. reeneebob's Avatar
    Android is the number one OS on earth and is used by more people then iOS.
    That's because it's on everything from cruddy $50 mass market tablets that aren't worth the plastic in their casing to to the actual high end devices.

    Tell me this, if someone cheapskate out and buys a tablet for $50 made by Soony or samsoong and it has android on it, and runs like cr@p because it's a cheap low end tablet, do you think they leave with a poor opinion of Soony or samsoong, or android? Because I can tell you that after Christmas we were inundated with people who got these things and they were awful...and they were complaining about how crappy android is. I heard a lot of "I don't know why everyone thinks Android is so great"

    Google needs to be more selective over who actually loads its OS and not go for sheer numbers.

    Numbers mean nothing if it ends up hurting the end users experience and they blame android and not that they are cheap and got exactly what they paid for.


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    06-12-12 10:57 AM
  10. GeneralTech's Avatar
    The upgrades are incremental, increasingly it seems that whether or not i upgrade to iphone 5 will be largely dependent on the screen size and design. Im of the opinion that the iphone 5 should be at least 4.5 inches to make that whole retina display worthwhile. Siri is not really something i need as well as most of these updates in ios 6. If they change the design of the charging port so that my current crop of apple accessories and charging docks become obsolete that would also dampen my mood toward upgrading to iphone 5.
    06-12-12 10:57 AM
  11. qbnkelt's Avatar
    *puts chili in a bowl, grabs beer and chips, puts feet on desk*

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    06-12-12 10:59 AM
  12. xandermac's Avatar
    Did you happen to read the article?



    This is gold. I love when people cite articles and then get owned by their own citing.
    They look "basically the same" do they? Sure they do....... Keep on hoping......

    "the Dream (also known as the T-Mobile G1) and the Sooner "were basically the same." Hackthorn says they merely look different on the face because the UI on the Sooner was optimized for non-touch input"

    Sounds like a little backtracking in response to June 2007 if you ask me, considering she "can't recall the exact dates" but she "believes" the decision to "drop the sooner was well before the iPhone announcement", even though the exact build is May 5th 2007, sure, that's "well before" the iPhone announcement, 1 month before if I'm not mistaken. Yeauh, Google we're well in the lead! So far ahead infact that their direction change delayed the G1 until October of 2008. Very shady stuff.

    Diane Hackthorn doesn't appear very credible when you take actual "evidence" into account, you can trust her though.
    Last edited by xandermac; 06-12-12 at 11:09 AM.
    06-12-12 11:04 AM
  13. pri79269's Avatar
    To be honest, I think you lost all your credibility and when you announced you had a billion viruses on all your windows pc's, and that they work like crap after 3 years. Not only did you lose your credibility, but i wouldn't call you competent enough to actually know what is going on with your son's 3gs.

    I know I'm being a tad rude here, but some people in this thread clearly lack natural selective qualities. That bugs me.
    Bless your heart...
    06-12-12 11:09 AM
  14. app_Developer's Avatar
    Yes I watched it. I can't blame you, really. I think all reps that go up on stage get extensive training in language and body language, tone of voice, and their overall aura..
    Yes, they do. They also rehearse these presentations exhaustively.

    There is no reason that RIM can't invest in some consultants to help them do exactly the same thing consistently.
    06-12-12 11:12 AM
  15. anon3700711's Avatar
    Apple can get viruses and aren't immune.
    I have never got a virus on my Windows PC.
    It comes down to the user and not the OS.
    I'm running a free Microsoft Anti-Virus program too which I haven't had to setup etc.
    06-12-12 11:14 AM
  16. pri79269's Avatar
    Apple can get viruses and aren't immune.
    I have never got a virus on my Windows PC.
    It comes down to the user and not the OS.
    I'm running a free Microsoft Anti-Virus program too which I haven't had to setup etc.
    Perhaps, but my Mac, which I use daily, hasn't had a virus. Knock on wood! My HP however, which I only used for that class twice a week for six months, does.

    But I'm off that issue at this point. Perhaps after all my years of using a PC, setting up and troubleshooting everyone else's issues, I developed the disease called "Apple" and suddenly became incompetent. Stranger things have happened ;-)
    06-12-12 11:25 AM
  17. anon3700711's Avatar
    Your PC doesn't magically get viruses. You do something that brings it on. Such as downloading something containing one, clicking a suspicious attachment, etc.

    I know because I troubleshoot enough friends laptops. Normally from trying to download porn, music or movies from sites that aren't really trusted like Beemp3 etc.
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    06-12-12 11:40 AM
  18. reeneebob's Avatar
    Oh dear lord. Yep everyone who has ever gotten a virus is watching pron! Evil dirty pron!

    At one point last year I got an alert to malware trying to install from my computer from an ad on Crackberry. Guess I shouldn't surf malicious sites like cb.com?

    If you think the only way to get viruses is to be doing something you shouldn't on your computer you got another thing coming and perhaps shouldn't be troubleshooting anyone's computer.


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    Last edited by reeneebob; 06-12-12 at 11:52 AM.
    06-12-12 11:49 AM
  19. Chrisy's Avatar
    Hogwash! I look at tons of sketchy pron and my PC never got a virus.




    06-12-12 11:50 AM
  20. pri79269's Avatar
    Your PC doesn't magically get viruses. You do something that brings it on. Such as downloading something containing one, clicking a suspicious attachment, etc.

    I know because I troubleshoot enough friends laptops. Normally from trying to download porn, music or movies from sites that aren't really trusted like Beemp3 etc.
    Well I don't do porn although I do have a 14yr old son :-/ problem with that theory is that I added restrictions with the Family Safety program so if he does use it while I'm not home or for school the browsing history is tracked and most of that kinda stuff isn't accessible. Either way none of that negates the fact that my PERSONAL user experience has been more pleasant on my Mac so that's what I'll continue to use until they screw up.

    Work to do, enjoy your day and the discussion.
    06-12-12 11:51 AM
  21. pri79269's Avatar
    Oh dear lord. Yep everyone who has ever gotten a virus is watching pron! Evil dirty pron!


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    tisk tisk lmao
    06-12-12 11:52 AM
  22. apengue1's Avatar
    A mac costs 5 times more than a pc.. Think about that for a second. If you really do get that many viruses, and mulfunctions, you can still buy 5 pcs for the price of one mac, and the upgrade process would leave you with a current pc, as well as a more extended ownership period compared to the 1 mac, which you eventually will have to replace.

    5 times more expensive...

    Are you sure its that much better in terms of relevancy?

    I have a friend (he's a student) who spent a lot of money on a mac. He now asks me where to get extra money so he can go on vacation, and buy a new car. Tells me he wants to save money. Maybe he shouldn't have bought a mac? He swears its that much better than a windows pc which he's never even owned. If you ask me its peer pressure, and i know my friend well. He gives in a lot to peer pressure. He trains and gets big so he can feel comfortable in his own body. This is just my experience btw, which of course makes it totally legit.
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    06-12-12 12:41 PM
  23. yeohda's Avatar
    Hahahahaha this is the funniest stuff I've read in a while. The first page is great, mainly cos it's probably meant to be taken seriously and we're meant to be like WHOA!OMG!APPLE HAS KNOCKED IT OUT OFF THE PARK!!! BYE RIM!!!.

    RaptorTv dude is no longer a bb fanboy...cos the MBP blows, erm, RIM's laptop offering outta the water, right? And then we got pri795246854321itsthedigitsofmybirthdate backing him up with her please-don't-detect-that-I'm-really-posting-these-comments-cos-I'm-paid-to-by-the-hour posts.

    Hahahahaha please continue guys, and start another one on iOS6 while you're at it. No, not at iMore's forums, here! You think over there, you do over here.
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    06-12-12 01:03 PM
  24. apengue1's Avatar
    Hahahahaha this is the funniest stuff I've read in a while. The first page is great, mainly cos it's probably meant to be taken seriously and we're meant to be like WHOA!OMG!APPLE HAS KNOCKED IT OUT OFF THE PARK!!! BYE RIM!!!.

    RaptorTv dude is no longer a bb fanboy...cos the MBP blows, erm, RIM's laptop offering outta the water, right? And then we got pri795246854321itsthedigitsofmybirthdate backing him up with her please-don't-detect-that-I'm-really-posting-these-comments-cos-I'm-paid-to-by-the-hour posts.

    Hahahahaha please continue guys, and start another one on iOS6 while you're at it. No, not at iMore's forums, here! You think over there, you do over here.
    Lol that was funny
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    06-12-12 01:19 PM
  25. MRCCAT's Avatar
    The new macbook pro models will be 1/4 thinner than its previous model, support retina display, 200 new updates on the new OSX, and so many more!!!!!!!!!!!!! CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They're awesome. I'm getting one.
    06-12-12 01:27 PM
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