- Back around 2008 steve said "people don't want to rent music, they want to buy". Now he'll say "people don't want to rent music, they want to buy it, THEN pay an additional subscription fee to stream it from our iCloud".
I don't see the point of a cloud music locker when we all have iPods and we all have carriers that are terrified of us actually using data.kbz1960 likes this.06-01-11 04:00 PMLike 1 - How is that different from any other manufacturing company, RIM for example, or Sony or HTC? That's the name of the game, you don't have to play along.
I'm glad someone brought up the apple yearly refreshes because I always wanted to make this comparison.
Apple=Madden games
With iphone or ipad2 there was no mind blowing jump in spec or OS to me it always seemed like a roster update. Yeah they do release big upgrades but the yearly releases are just to have you buy something new.
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-01-11 04:09 PMLike 0 - "Making an unusual appearance on the financial results call, Jobs dismissed 7-inch slates � like Samsung�s Galaxy Tab and including the ongoing rumors of a smaller iPad version � as �tweeners� falling in-between smartphone and iPad and likely to be dead on arrival, while also saving a few obituary words for RIM"
"complete failure"? Where exactly?
Jobs: 7-inch Tablets DOA; Android is fragmented, not open - SlashGear
And yes, the 10" tablet has proven infinitely more popular, hence all the 10" tabs now appearing and the 10" playbook that will appear shortly. Bookmark this thread.
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You're right, force is the wrong word. What I meant is that people see these new features that are incompatible with their current device, and they have to upgrade if they want them. I mean, isn't MMS disabled on the original iPhone still? There's no good reason for that. The most basic, awful old Nokia phones handle picture messaging.
I can answer this question, and it's quite simply no. Holding back desirable features doesn't harm you at all if you have a raft of other desirable features to take the attention away from a device's shortcomings. The original iPhone had plenty of features which made it stand out in the marketplace, so they didn't need to put decent cameras in - because that would secure upgrade sales in the next cycle.
RIM is not "behind" as much as they have a different strategy than iOS or Android. Don't kid yourself; RIM is delivering devices it believes will succeed in the market; they take their market position very seriously, which is how they grew to become a $25 billion company. The idea that they are sending devices into the market hoping no one notices their shortcomings is rather naive, especially when RIM is pushing to get a fair accounting for its success and position in the mobile industry from analysts, investors and consumers.06-01-11 04:22 PMLike 0 - Actually I'm a staunch blackberry user, but sure, I use an apple product. I'm also a staunch believer in accuracy, no, "likely DOA" is not the same as "been a complete failure", different tense to begin with. I'm also not naive enough to dismiss apple just because I don't like them like so many analysts that put their foot in their mouth.
06-01-11 04:23 PMLike 0 - Actually I'm a staunch blackberry user, but sure, I use an apple product. I'm also a staunch believer in accuracy, no, "likely DOA" is not the same as "been a complete failure", different tense to begin with. I'm also not naive enough to dismiss apple just because I don't like them like so many analysts that put their foot in their mouth.06-01-11 04:25 PMLike 0
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- no offense i agree with you in thinking they will release a 10'' but don't call someone out for not using the exact wording then call someone naive for not believing a rumor. you start to look stupid
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-01-11 04:34 PMLike 0 - Fair enough, but I ask you this, when we know for certain that it's going to happen, and it will, is it still merely a rumor? which we would be stupid not to believe? Anyone that says RIM will not release a 10" tablet is thick. And if you're going to quote someone To defend a position it should be remotely accurate.
06-01-11 04:59 PMLike 0 - Debating screen sizes seems rather pointless to me. If Apple introduces a superior run-time environment, small hardware differences may not matter. RIM used to be able to claim they had the best infrastructure. Now? Not so much.
We should be rating essential Cloud elements. Beginning next week, it may suddenly be a very important mobile topic. I hope RIM is ready to debate this topic too. Silence will be a poor strategy.06-01-11 06:08 PMLike 0 - I went and read about the iCloud over at tipb.com and pretty much everyone over there didn't like it. They didn't want to pay to stream their owb music and are thinking it will only be used to stream music bought from iTunes. I would hate to have to pay to stream music I already own and have to be in a good area for it to work well.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-01-11 06:34 PMLike 0 - I have to agree, but someone would have to pay for the bandwidth. It'll be interesting to see what they announce.
06-01-11 06:49 PMLike 0 - Fair enough, but I ask you this, when we know for certain that it's going to happen, and it will, is it still merely a rumor? which we would be stupid not to believe? Anyone that says RIM will not release a 10" tablet is thick. And if you're going to quote someone To defend a position it should be remotely accurate.
Again if you want to slam people do it with facts.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-01-11 07:14 PMLike 0 - Believe what you want, everyone else knows a 10" is on the way.
Just because I want to belive something does not make it true in anyway. It is an opinion not fact. RIM in no way has reported that a 10" playbook is being released.
Again if you want to slam people do it with facts.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-01-11 07:16 PMLike 0 -
Ok kid well you keep going and telling people they have to believe the exact words Steve Jobs says and not read in between the lines. Then call them thick from not believing a rumor that started on BGR because you do. To each their own I guess
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