[JakeTheCat]

Apple's statement today references "Apple's industry-leading security". When, exactly, did Apple become the industry leader? Has anyone told BlackBerry? I would love to hear what they have to say for themselves. If it is not true, has anyone told Apple? If it is a falsification, would this not qualify as a material misrepresentation on Apple's part?

Apple says it's unaware of NSA iPhone backdoor program | Apple - CNET News

[BB10FTW]

No

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[ray689]

Anyone can make any claim they want. Sad thing is, Apple followers will eat it up.

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[SirJes]

Apples Reply incase people are in the lazy mood

"Apple has never worked with the NSA to create a backdoor in any of our products, including iPhone. Additionally, we have been unaware of this alleged NSA program targeting our products. We care deeply about our customers' privacy and security. Our team is continuously working to make our products even more secure, and we make it easy for customers to keep their software up to date with the latest advancements. Whenever we hear about attempts to undermine Apple's industry-leading security, we thoroughly investigate and take appropriate steps to protect our customers. We will continue to use our resources to stay ahead of malicious hackers and defend our customers from security attacks, regardless of who's behind them."

Honest Question, same as OP's, did apple over take blackberry in the industry? , which industry are they speaking of?

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[diegonei]

No

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This.

[m1kr0]

Apple "unaware" about NSA attentions? LMFAO

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[JC Superstar]

Apple can easily claim industry-leading security in specific areas such as the implementation fingerprint readers, sandboxing of apps, and curation of the App Store. It's a subjective claim, like saying that you have the best smartphones. You're not going to get anywhere trying to call them out by saying that they are lying.

[gogurt48]

Honest Question, same as OP's, did apple over take blackberry in the industry? , which industry are they speaking of?

Angry Birds. My high scores have never been hacked. Never.

[ronfc]

Might be a typo. "Industry-leading lack of security"

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[FFR]

Apples Reply incase people are in the lazy mood

"Apple has never worked with the NSA to create a backdoor in any of our products, including iPhone. Additionally, we have been unaware of this alleged NSA program targeting our products. We care deeply about our customers' privacy and security. Our team is continuously working to make our products even more secure, and we make it easy for customers to keep their software up to date with the latest advancements. Whenever we hear about attempts to undermine Apple's industry-leading security, we thoroughly investigate and take appropriate steps to protect our customers. We will continue to use our resources to stay ahead of malicious hackers and defend our customers from security attacks, regardless of who's behind them."

Honest Question, same as OP's, did apple over take blackberry in the industry? , which industry are they speaking of?

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In the enterprise.

[SirJes]

Lol go home apple your drunk


Maybe been drinking that apple wine.

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[reversekcid]

In the enterprise? No, Apple products are a nightmare for us security experts working in the financial service business. Apple is gaining shares in the enterprise because people want their devices not because of security.

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[tack]

In the enterprise? No, Apple products are a nightmare for us security experts working in the financial service business. Apple is gaining shares in the enterprise because people want their devices not because of security.

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Many banks and government agencies disagree with you.

[SirJes]

Many banks and government agencies disagree with you.

He's right though, their reason aren't mainly security, it's mainly cause they want an iPhone because of the apps available, don't matter how they try to make it seem to the public, that's the truth

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[propeller10]

iOS has more vulnerabilities than Android. It was posted in news section in forums few days ago.

[SparkyBC]

Well known apple and the NSA ARE working together. They won't tell the truth just what they want people to hear.

[Atentozedten]

The fact that Apple says they were unaware of NSA backdooring Apple products tells me...yah they aren't secure at all.

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[byex]

Apple invented security for the smartphone.

[m1kr0]

Apple invented security for the smartphone.

Hence president Obama uses an IPhone for his personal security needs to run the government of the greatest country in the world - yah right!

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[Wiki Cydia]

Hence president Obama uses an IPhone for his personal security needs to run the government of the greatest country in the world - yah right!

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You'll need to offer your criteria for "greatest country in the world" before this post will make any sense.

[john_v]

It's kind of like the car ads on TV that advertise "Highest fuel MPG in it's class" and then the fine print with the * says "When compared to Hummer H1's pulling a load of bricks up a mountain" (or something like that)

Or another favorite - "Highest resale value*" (*when compared to Yugos and rusted out Chevy Novas)

There's probably just enough truth to their statement to keep it from being a flat-out lie, but you have to figure out what the qualifiers are.

[anon62607]

Well known apple and the NSA ARE working together. They won't tell the truth just what they want people to hear.

Reference for that?

[anon62607]

Apple's statement today references "Apple's industry-leading security". When, exactly, did Apple become the industry leader? Has anyone told BlackBerry? I would love to hear what they have to say for themselves. If it is not true, has anyone told Apple? If it is a falsification, would this not qualify as a material misrepresentation on Apple's part?

Apple says it's unaware of NSA iPhone backdoor program | Apple - CNET News

Rather than retype the same thing from another thread, I'll use a little cut-n-paste here:

The source documents say that they need physical access to the iphone to implant the spyware, which somewhat mitgates the risk (and germane to this thread, implies that Apple and the NSA aren't working together). Note that they can do the same with a blackberry or almost any device if they want to (intercepting the device in shipment and modifying the logic board, for example, if needed).

I should add that given that "remote jailbreaking" websites existed for iOS 6, it should be obvious that an iPhone can be convinced to modify it's system software remotely. Given the infrastructure that the NSA has, I presume they have something similar - identify a target, intercept a Safari on iPhone request to a given website and redirect it to their own servers and "jailbreak" the iPhone that way.

You can probably use the availability of these sorts of websites and jailbreaks for various operating systems and mobile platforms as a thermometer for how safe they are. If you are able to modify your phone's operating system (load a leak or whatever), your phone is at risk. If you are able to (ala iOS 6) go to a webpage and jailbreak your phone, it's vulnerable to an NSA level remote exploit.

It's also mentioned that the number of times that the NSA has done this is in the low hundreds. This isn't a mass surveillance issue. You are probably not going to be able to protect yourself from a national level intelligence agency that has taken special interest in you. You should be able to protect yourself from a bored analyst looking through your communications where nothing more than the mass collection systems can be queried.

also it should be pointed out that there aren't many organizations in the world that can outspend the NSA, but Google and Apple both can. If they are legitimately outraged by this (individual engineers within the companies certainly seem to be) they can devote enormous resources to elevating privacy. Unfortunately, it remains easier to hack a system than to build it in a secure way in the first place.

[m1kr0]

You'll need to offer your criteria for "greatest country in the world" before this post will make any sense.

The United States of America.

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[collinc93]

I have 300 acres of prime moon land real estate with a front view of the ocean and the mountains in the back..any takers for 2013?