Passport-like phone with Android - but not from BlackBerry - The Unihertz Titan.
- Other than article on main page that's been done, what else can be said? As Bla1ze stated previously to others, write an interesting article then submit..08-23-19 09:32 PMLike 0
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- Looking forward to this. Definitely will be the direct replacement to this disabled passport.
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- So... the Titan kickstarter campaign is over. It finished today.
The last but one project update says that they will implement the alt key in order to input number and special character directly from the keyboard, alongside still having the possibility of entering them from the screen.
I guess now we have to wait and we will see wether this phone will become reality.
If for some reason should not, it certainly will not be due to lack of money.
I am actually very curious to see the final product
I hope it might some extended interest apart from the 3000 backers08-29-19 03:27 PMLike 0 - So... the Titan kickstarter campaign is over. It finished today.
The last but one project update says that they will implement the alt key in order to input number and special character directly from the keyboard, alongside still having the possibility of entering them from the screen.
I guess now we have to wait and we will see wether this phone will become reality.
If for some reason should not, it certainly will not be due to lack of money.
I am actually very curious to see the final product
I hope it might some extended interest apart from the 3000 backers08-29-19 08:12 PMLike 0 -
If original target was $100K total, you’re saying their goal was to sell 300 devices and collect $3K-$4.5K USD in seed money. That’s even worse...08-29-19 09:29 PMLike 0 - I think you’re missing the point of my comment. I’d question the 100K target. Do you mean they collected $30K-$45K USD but their goal was $100K USD seed money?
If original target was $100K total, you’re saying their goal was to sell 300 devices and collect $3K-$4.5K USD in seed money. That’s even worse...08-29-19 09:33 PMLike 0 -
- As a BlackBerry Titan backer, I’ve gotta agree with Chuck. On the surface the numbers don’t make a lot of sense. But I also don’t have a single clue about electronics manufacturing and the business model required to turn a profit.
What I do know is that this hilariously, shameless and unapologetic over-the-top Frankenstein of a phone is filling a void that TCL has left in 2019. I don’t blame TCL either; you got make decisions that make sense for the health of your business and clearly, this licensing deal with BlackBerry is negative sum game.
So when a plucky little outfit out of China decides to throw a concept device out there with a $220 price tag as a bone, you better believe I’m gonna jump on it just for the ride alone.
Do I expect to see the Titan delivered to my door by Christmas per the campaign promise? Heck no! Do I think the Titan will be in my hands before a KEY3 ever will? Heck ya!08-29-19 10:27 PMLike 3 - With crowdfunding, the participants are putting their money up at risk as I understand it. The risk for Unihertz is the profit component if proceeding forward without solid quantity above the breakeven point for their overhead and other fixed expenses.08-30-19 04:55 AMLike 0
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Titan: 3,085 backers pledged $776,947 of 100,000$. Target price to retail about 360$
Specs: well known
Jelly: $1,251,380 pledged of $30,000 goal 10,964 backers, currently sold on amazon at about 170$
Specs: Display. Screen size (inches) 2.45. Touchscreen. Yes. Hardware. Processor. 1.1GHz quad-core. RAM. 1GB. Camera. Rear camera. 8-megapixel. Front camera. 2-megapixel. Software. Operating system. Android 7.0. Sensors. Compass/ Magnetometer. Yes. Battery capacity (mAh): 950
Atom: $1,290,924 pledged of $50,000 goal 5,310 backers, currently sold on amazon at about 250$
Specs: CPU: Mediatek Helio P23 MT6763. GPU: Mali-G71. RAM: 4GB. Storage: 64GB. Screen size: 2.45-inch. Resolution: 432 x 230. Weight: 107g. Dimensions: 97 x 45 x 19mm. Rear camera: 4.9MP. Front camera: 4.9MP
What do you think, analyzing this data, why are they doing this? Out of fun or it really pays off?08-30-19 06:25 AMLike 0 - Sounds right Chuck. So, since unihertz has produced other 2 phones respectively couple of years ago and about a year ago if I am not mistaken, I have gathered data from the previous kickstarter campaigns to feed our retrospective and make some forecast for the Titan.
Titan: 3,085 backers pledged $776,947 of 100,000$. Target price to retail about 360$
Specs: well known
Jelly: $1,251,380 pledged of $30,000 goal 10,964 backers, currently sold on amazon at about 170$
Specs: Display. Screen size (inches) 2.45. Touchscreen. Yes. Hardware. Processor. 1.1GHz quad-core. RAM. 1GB. Camera. Rear camera. 8-megapixel. Front camera. 2-megapixel. Software. Operating system. Android 7.0. Sensors. Compass/ Magnetometer. Yes. Battery capacity (mAh): 950
Atom: $1,290,924 pledged of $50,000 goal 5,310 backers, currently sold on amazon at about 250$
Specs: CPU: Mediatek Helio P23 MT6763. GPU: Mali-G71. RAM: 4GB. Storage: 64GB. Screen size: 2.45-inch. Resolution: 432 x 230. Weight: 107g. Dimensions: 97 x 45 x 19mm. Rear camera: 4.9MP. Front camera: 4.9MP
What do you think, analyzing this data, why are they doing this? Out of fun or it really pays off?
Titan only generates 1/2 of Atom interest and 1/4 of Jelly interest. The part that I’m not familiar with is the minimum production requirements for each device.
I suspect the VKB has more off the shelf components available with lower minimum production numbers required. The PKB has the higher component expenses but again I don’t know minimum production numbers required. Interesting that device sold through Amazon but again not enough details.08-30-19 06:55 AMLike 0 - Nobody does for the fun of it. Since both devices are sold on Amazon, if Unihertz is the seller, it suggests that additional devices are produced and sold later for additional profits hopefully.
Titan only generates 1/2 of Atom interest and 1/4 of Jelly interest. The part that I’m not familiar with is the minimum production requirements for each device.
I suspect the VKB has more off the shelf components available with lower minimum production numbers required. The PKB has the higher component expenses but again I don’t know minimum production numbers required. Interesting that device sold through Amazon but again not enough details.08-30-19 08:43 AMLike 0 -
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But when in 2019 you decide to make a passport resembling phone with PKB and almost square screen, you are already positioning yourself in an extra small niche, in the best case.
Therefore, from the beginning you know that the revenue this phone will bring will be very limited, potentially more limited than its predecessors, looking at kickstarter data, considering it a reliable mirror of the wider market.
So, if you know that your product will have very low volumes, which means that your margin will be low if you wanna sell it for a price which will convince people to buy.
Then, given the fact that people from unihertz have done this analysis, the question really is why are they doing it?
And...for fun or to realize the dream of a product manager (would not be the first time in the history), might not be such an impossible or irrealistic answer...neoberry99 likes this.08-30-19 01:07 PMLike 1 -
- What does the titan running android have in connection with BlackBerry and loading android on passports. Besides the fact there is no unsold inventory09-05-19 09:26 AMLike 0
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