[JRSCCivic98]

It's come to my attention that some of you ARE in the dark when it comes to how and what email works where. Seems that RIM has really done a number with the public in terms of pulling the wool over their eyes so they don't know any better. That being said, below are some outlines as to why some of you are having issues getting your Yahoo or Hotmail emails working on the Droid or ANY other "true" smartphone for that matter.

1) Yahoo and Hotmail are NO LONGER "free" services for extensive email support such as 3rd party email client polling. This means that you can no longer use Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, etc. to get and send your Yahoo or Hotmail emails (unless you've got an extremely old "grandfathered" email account that they left it enabled on.

2) Your only options in order to get this type of POP3 support enabled on those email accounts is to pay a yearly subscription for them from both Yahoo and Microsoft for their "Plus" services. By doing so, that enables POP3 support on those accounts similar to what GMail has ALWAYS done... for FREE.

3) No, it's not the fault of your smartphone that they started to do this. At one time both Yahoo and Hotmail were free for this capability, then the respective companies got a wild hair up their wazoo to start charging for the service. This left people with new accounts for those service out in the cold once the change was done. Some really old accounts were left enabled, but those are pretty rare nowadays.

4) The reason why both Yahoo and Hotmail work on the Blackberry platform is because RIM spent some money to build partner relations with those 2 companies to get them support for the POP/IMAP polling to work. Without that, it would't work either. Of course, RIM doesn't always tell everyone what they do behind the scenes in order to make their product work for the end user. They like to keep you in the dark and when you try to use another smartphone and it doesn't work, they and every RIM fanboi out there blame the problem on that smartphone rather then the respective email providers.


So, with all that said, you have your options layed out. Either enable the higher level access for those accounts or just don't use them anymore and give Yahoo and MS the finger... or pull the wool back down and go back to Blackberry.

Either way, please be sure you have the proper and "TRUE" facts in front of you before you blare out that something sucks because it doesn't work like your BB used to work.

Good luck to everyone in their trials.



One last thing that I forgot earlier....

5) All ISPs will not let you "relay" email through their SMTP servers unless you "Authenticate" first if your traffic does not originate from within their network. Make sure you enable this if it is not on by default and you should be able to send email through them no issues.

One last thing that came up. In this thread, there's a writeup from another user that indicates a way to setup Yahoo via IMAP. Try that first before you go spending the money on the Yahoo Plus option.

[matrix2004]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Its too bad people say e-mail sucks on the DROID when its working normally.

[digital_cataclysm]

Thanks JRS - I had come across this "revelation" a couple weeks ago, thus I was not expecting the Droid to push my Yahoo accounts without the PLUS service enabled... but I'm sure this might very well be news to others.

Good post.

[Korben Dallas]

How old does your hotmail account have to be to get grandfathered in? I've had mine for 9 years.

[JRSCCivic98]

How old does your hotmail account have to be to get grandfathered in? I've had mine for 9 years.

Nine years should be good enough, but Hotmail is questionable sometimes. Ever since they changed it to the Live service, they botched a few of the accounts that weren't used for a while.

[xliderider]

How old does your hotmail account have to be to get grandfathered in? I've had mine for 9 years.

My acct is so old it is an MSN account lol. It works perfectly on the Droid. I have it set to fetch the mail every 15 minutes.

[xliderider]

I can't however get my Time Warner Cable email set-up properly.

[SevereDeceit]

Awesome post, Civic...

[JRSCCivic98]

I can't however get my Time Warner Cable email set-up properly.

Did you try to enable Outgoing SMTP Authentication?

What do you have for servers in your Outlook setup? Match that up on the Droid.

[cdaiscool]

Actually, MSN has decided to let POP3 go free once more. Yahoo, on the other hand, are still being asshats.

Which is why I'm happy I've never used them

MSN Hotmail and Hotmail Plus POP3/SMTP Access - Windows Live

[cdaiscool]

Just one more thing: with the Hotmail servers, make sure you don't select SSL when you're setting it up in Gmail - it defaults to port 465 (I think that's it, it's 4XX) and then it times out. If you don't select SSL, it will keep the port you select (25 or 587) as the port it's requesting to pull information from, and therefore it will go through.

Don't worry, you're still getting TLS encryption, so it's not like the average script kiddie can read your Viagra ads.

[cenloe]

Yep, I stated in another post that for Yahoo email to work, you would need to pay their fee-$20 a year I believe.

My wife was having the same issue with her WINMO device, so Android is not alone in this regard.

Yahoo email worked on my first gen iPhone back in the day.

[Ultrafied]

LOL, so now RIM pulls the wool over your eyes so that the most popular web based mail systems work on Blackberry phones effortlessly. Why is that something underhanded? BB's are known for email delivery and RIM put their money where their mouth is. So why can't the normal person blare out the the email sucks because another company doesn't want to put THEIR money where THEIR mouth as far as email delivery?

[Card Storm]

LOL, so now RIM pulls the wool over your eyes so that the most popular web based mail systems work on Blackberry phones effortlessly. Why is that something underhanded? BB's are known for email delivery and RIM put their money where their mouth is. So why can't the normal person blare out the the email sucks because another company doesn't want to put THEIR money where THEIR mouth as far as email delivery?

Hey, but the BB sucks because it hasnt fully invested its time in 3d acceleration.

[muddy00]

Here is how you can get yahoo to work without upgrading


go to mail icon
add account
enter email address in email address filed ([email protected])
enter password at password field
select MANUAL SETUP not next
select imap
username= [email protected]
password = yourpassword
imap server= imap.mail.yahoo.com
port=143
security=none
optional = blank
select next

you will then be prompted to sign in do so.

will then be taken to the smptp settings which only prompts (going form memory) you for address which is smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com. leave the port as is. then select next. sign in. name your account and that's it.

[dtboos#CB]

Here is how you can get yahoo to work without upgrading


go to mail icon
add account
enter email address in email address filed ([email protected])
enter password at password field
select MANUAL SETUP not next
select imap
username= [email protected]
password = yourpassword
imap server= imap.mail.yahoo.com
port=143
security=none
optional = blank
select next

you will then be prompted to sign in do so.

will then be taken to the smptp settings which only prompts (going form memory) you for address which is smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com. leave the port as is. then select next. sign in. name your account and that's it.

ding ding! I have a plus account, but this will work for the rest of you. You don't have to leave Yahoo lol.

[xliderider]

I can't however get my Time Warner Cable email set-up properly.

Did you try to enable Outgoing SMTP Authentication?

What do you have for servers in your Outlook setup? Match that up on the Droid.

I finally got it set-up.

I had to Google the Time Warner settings for pop3 server info on incoming and outgoing servers. Then I had to figure out whether or not they needed sign-in on authentication on the outgoing server.

[Cyrilmak]

Civic you are wrong about Hotmail.

1) Yahoo and Hotmail are NO LONGER "free" services for extensive email support such as 3rd party email client polling. This means that you can no longer use Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, etc. to get and send your Yahoo or Hotmail emails (unless you've got an extremely old "grandfathered" email account that they left it enabled on.

Hotmail does and always has worked fine with Outlook and Outlook Express. A nice little piece of software called Outlook Connector.

[chuckz28]

Here is how you can get yahoo to work without upgrading


go to mail icon
add account
enter email address in email address filed ([email protected])
enter password at password field
select MANUAL SETUP not next
select imap
username= [email protected]
password = yourpassword
imap server= imap.mail.yahoo.com
port=143
security=none
optional = blank
select next

you will then be prompted to sign in do so.

will then be taken to the smptp settings which only prompts (going form memory) you for address which is smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com. leave the port as is. then select next. sign in. name your account and that's it.

DUDE!!! you are a life saver! Thank you, it worked!

[JRSCCivic98]

Civic you are wrong about Hotmail.
A nice little piece of software called Outlook Connector.

I wanna see you load Outlook Connector on a Droid or another smartphone for that matter.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[Cyrilmak]

I wanna see you load Outlook Connector on a Droid or another smartphone for that matter.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

No need since as of many months ago all incarnations of Hotmail have been allowed to both send and receive from any mobile device.

MSN Hotmail and Hotmail Plus POP3/SMTP Access - Windows Live

[sorlipm]

Civic, ty for the info, i have been reading these forums for about 3 weeks now, and instead of a flame throwing contest.I finally got some good info

[Guyton101]

wow those were wonderful steps.. thanks so much

[Headshrink]

Here is how you can get yahoo to work without upgrading


go to mail icon
add account
enter email address in email address filed ([email protected])
enter password at password field
select MANUAL SETUP not next
select imap
username= [email protected]
password = yourpassword
imap server= imap.mail.yahoo.com
port=143
security=none
optional = blank
select next

you will then be prompted to sign in do so.

will then be taken to the smptp settings which only prompts (going form memory) you for address which is smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com. leave the port as is. then select next. sign in. name your account and that's it.

THANK U, so much for sharing this. It worked instantly, I can now undo the forwarding of my mail via gmail which has not retrieve them at regular intervals.

[gvilleheel]

So this is probably a dumb question but does a cable service email like suddenlink work, which uses "pop" as well?