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02-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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why the heck blackberry supports wifi where we cant use most of the BB applications like windows live messenger - twitter - facebook - yahoo - google talk ?? etc...unless we subscribe for BIS which cost 40$ in my country region !!!!!!!!
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02-19-2011, 04:01 PM
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Not all apps rely on a BIS/BES connection. Some apps can be used via WiFi. If you use your WAP browser, you can surf the web via WiFi.
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02-19-2011, 04:13 PM
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You can also use BIS over wifi and not use data from your plan (good for people who don't have unlimited data). It can also be faster than the network. Also, when I visit my mom who lives in an area without cell service, I can still email and bbm and whatnot.
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02-19-2011, 04:23 PM
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As noted, BlackBerry devices have WiFi to SUPPLEMENT the data service over the carrier network. Not to replace the need for a data plan.
You can use WiFi to access data in areas where you aren't getting a good carrier network signal and to reduce the use of your data allotment on your data plan.
BlackBerry devices work differently from other devices. Most data services require an active BlackBerry Data Plan even over WiFi.
Note that the OP is looking for a free IM service without a BlackBerry Data Plan.
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02-19-2011, 04:49 PM
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WIFI adds a secondary means of communicating data when you are unable to get a cellular signal. It wasn't designed to be the primary method of data connection.
Also, the carrier subsidies on the phones are calculated with a expectation of voice and data plans. If the price was based on what they'll recoup with a voice-only plan, they would cut the subsidy and the phone would be too expensive for most people that don't want to pay for data.
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02-19-2011, 05:17 PM
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Because you most likely got your phone from a carrier. They subsidised it to about 50% of its true cost. Carriers make their money by selling network minutes and data megabytes.
Since this is their core business, can you really blame them for not allowing you to circumvent their network simply for your convenience.
WiFi is there, as has alreadty been said, as a secondary (and fast) communications channel for a number of programs and functions when it is available but, the BIS channel remains the prime data path.
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02-19-2011, 06:07 PM
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If you're so displeased with how much data costs in your country, then a BB is not for you.
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I've been playing around with the Google Voice app today on a WIFI only berry and the SMS works great for free. My daughter's been hounding me for a phone so she can text her friends, but she's not getting one until the start of the next school year. Now she can text from home. I actually added GVoice to their iPod Touch, too. If someone tries to call her phone #, it goes to our home phone. Not sure if its available for the OP's region, but it might be worth looking into.
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02-19-2011, 06:23 PM
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Please review Mobile Voice System BlackBerry - Mobile Voice System - BlackBerry MVS for Unified Communication
THIS is a reason to have wifi on devices,
in addition to supplementing data plans and allowing access to data when in underground structures or areas without mobile coverage.
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02-20-2011, 05:04 AM
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cant i get a data plan with 0 mega bites download? (with a less cost) ???? then in this case ill be opening internet on my wifi network for unlimited access (useimg all the services ??? (instead of the bis service which allow me to download 100 mb per month)
blackberry should support a data plan with zero mega bites download which cost 10% of the BIS service. in this case all the people who has a wireless connection can use all the blackberry services .
i hope u got me..
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Originally Posted by dare4more  cant i get a data plan with 0 mega bites download? (with a less cost) ???? then in this case ill be opening internet on my wifi network for unlimited access (useimg all the services ??? (instead of the bis service which allow me to download 100 mb per month)
blackberry should support a data plan with zero mega bites download which cost 10% of the BIS service. in this case all the people who has a wireless connection can use all the blackberry services .
i hope u got me..
cheers | 1). A data plan with 0 megabytes is no data plan. The carrier makes no money on this so what incentive does he have to sell you a subsidised phone and then make no money on the data plan? This is not going to happen.
2). RIM (who make BlackBerrys) sell all their phones through carriers. They are pretty much their ONLY customers. The BIS service, whilst a RIM product is run entirely by individual carriers. The carrier can set the cost per month and the amount of data available entirely at its own discresion. Again, this has nothing to do with RIM or the BlackBerry phone.
I have two data plans on two different phones. One is my main contract and I have 600 minutes/month in calls, unlimited SMS, fair use unlimited BIS data for $35 /month but I paid full price for the phone. This is with O2 SIMplicity (SIM only) in the UK.
My spare phone in the car is with a different carrier and it is pre-paid for calls and the fair use unlimited BIS plan is $7.50 month and tis is with Orange UK. Again I owned the phone.
Both plans are cancellable on 1 month notice. I wish the US had such good deals.
3). It seems to be you that does not "get it.". Do not blame RIM/BlackBerry for for pricing and products that have nothing to do with them.
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02-20-2011, 06:47 AM
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Get the iPhone. It will do what you want.
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02-20-2011, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorcycle Mama Get the iPhone. It will do what you want. | blackberry is still better at least we dont have to buy itunes to download applications :P and still we have bluetouth
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02-20-2011, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dare4more blackberry is still better at least we dont have to buy itunes to download applications :P and still we have bluetouth | Than get a droid!! 
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02-20-2011, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dare4more blackberry is still better at least we dont have to buy itunes to download applications :P and still we have bluetouth | You don't have to buy iTunes to download apps, there is a free version. Not defending Motorcycle Mama's comment but just saying.
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