palm pre vs blackberry

[RetroAndreas]

Originally Posted by mycrownvic02

I do tons of browsing, and some emailing, and text messaging. My pre does these things better than the storm by a long shot. Maybe rim will make something worth while soon, but I wont hold my breath

When I say worth while I mean something new.

Apple and oranges people.

Posters here are trying to compare a business class device to a consumer device.

My Tour is an incredible messaging device. A business device with no nonsense push email.
The BB is an extension of my office in the field.

If I was mostly browsing doing the occasional message like the comment quoted above indicates, I would buy a Pre or more likely an Iphone.

BB for messaging, Iphone/Pre for browsing and gaming. Simple

[buichuoi]

Originally Posted by BzB

pre better than a blackberry? the webos is flashier, but in practice it doesn't do ANYTHING that the rim os can't do.

as far as why the pre ISN'T better than a blackberry...let's see if i can keep this under 10 points...

1) 'not intended for use' portrait only keyboard.
2) build quality of a cardboard box. or build quality of an oreo cookie. take your pick.
3) no sd support or expandable storage.
4) auto spell check? auto period? auto capitalization? NO!!! just because every other smart phone has it doesn't mean it's important.
5) battery life? NO! this device is meant to be hardwired to an outlet.
6) copy/paste? kind of..but not really.
7) little to no 3rd party apps.
8) once they do get third party apps the os will slow down to a speed more suitable for a turtle with arthritis and three legs. mark my words on this.
9) multitasking a cost. for a device that touts it's multitasking capabilities it slows down more than any blackberry does once you get more than a few apps running at the same time. by comparison the tour usually has 5 apps running by default and is still snappy.
10) phone app is very s l o.....w.
11) no real backup solution for all the info on your device. not an issue with the blackberry.
12) suspiciously conspicuous 'cloud' data management. matter of time before it's hacked or virused. no match for blackberry data security.
13) no tethering.
14) no video recorder. standard on all the competition.


palm made a wannabe iphone and failed badly. the pre isn't even the best device made by palm. the pre needs a significant redesign before it can hold that title. until then i'll patiently await pre 2...

but yeah...to each their own right? it's ok to lower your standards so you can own the hot new shiny flashy phone, but to think that it's better than the market leader is a joke.

agreed with this guy
I have reviewed a palm pre in general everything ok! touch, apps
but I saw that the keyboard of palm pre is small, with space of two keys is small
and I don't like this point.

[formerlyknownasame]

Originally Posted by BzB

btw formerlyknowname, what evidence are asking for? apparently i missed your first request, but if you would kindly detail your requirements i'd be glad to oblige. good day sir!

Not a sir, first of all. The fact that I am a chick would have been pretty easy to find, but given your lack of research and lack of willingness to do said research is not in the least bit surprising that you wouldn't have found that out by now.

You claim to have all of this first-hand experience with your so-called factual evidence and these number-by-number listings of how this unit is a total failure by comparison to a RIM unit. So, I am asking you to provide ACTUAL FACT-and a link to it's source-for these "points" you keep making about this unit. So far all you have posted is YOUR opinion, which is NOT fact, and your listings of "points" are absolutely incorrect and the correct information can easily be found. You're just hoping that spewing your gospel of RIM Fan-Boy nonsense with not a shred of credible evidence is enough to convince someone else that you are in some way a legitimate source of information.

Originally Posted by BzB

You guys are so ungrateful. This thread is about palm pre vs blackberry not about bzb vs the pre users. I'm merely providing some much needed insight and a cold glass of reality check to the thread. And this is how you show your appreciation? Oh well, can't please everyone.

If anything you posted was in any way insightful or remotely correct, perhaps you would have an ounce of credibility with us. Instead you ramble on with unfounded fodder and we in turn speculate that you are simply embarrassed that you are interested in possessing this phone, and rambling on like a right-wing gay-bashing closeted homosexual just askin' for a scandal to break in the news.

[BlaqkAudio]

Don't expect a straight response. BzB will just come up with some stupid wisecrack and change the subject.

[Pimp Lucious]

Originally Posted by RetroAndreas

Apple and oranges people.

Posters here are trying to compare a business class device to a consumer device.

My Tour is an incredible messaging device. A business device with no nonsense push email.
The BB is an extension of my office in the field.

If I was mostly browsing doing the occasional message like the comment quoted above indicates, I would buy a Pre or more likely an Iphone.

BB for messaging, Iphone/Pre for browsing and gaming. Simple

Funny thing is, messaging email is quite a bit more intuitive an user friendly on both the iPhone and the Pre than it was on my blackberry. The Pre blows all other parties out of the water with its notifications area that provides just the right amount of preview info that is then easily selected or swiped away for later reading. Much more useful than an envelope with a red star on it, multiple envelopes with red stars. Email formatting is so much better, including true HTML that keeps formatting intact. Push email is also available out of the box on the Pre. On top of that, Synergy just takes it to a whole nother level, reducing multiple accounts in multiple communications formats down to just communication from an individual seamlessly integrated into one identity.

[RetroAndreas]

Originally Posted by Pimp Lucious

Funny thing is, messaging email is quite a bit more intuitive an user friendly on both the iPhone and the Pre than it was on my blackberry. The Pre blows all other parties out of the water with its notifications area that provides just the right amount of preview info that is then easily selected or swiped away for later reading. Much more useful than an envelope with a red star on it, multiple envelopes with red stars. Email formatting is so much better, including true HTML that keeps formatting intact. Push email is also available out of the box on the Pre. On top of that, Synergy just takes it to a whole nother level, reducing multiple accounts in multiple communications formats down to just communication from an individual seamlessly integrated into one identity.

Oh and what type of push are you talking about?
HTML is nice, but i need the message not the fluff.
Like I said, a business phone.
A little off topic, has anyone dropped the Pre?
I'm thinking it would be messy.

[mycrownvic02]

Originally Posted by Pimp Lucious

Funny thing is, messaging email is quite a bit more intuitive an user friendly on both the iPhone and the Pre than it was on my blackberry. The Pre blows all other parties out of the water with its notifications area that provides just the right amount of preview info that is then easily selected or swiped away for later reading. Much more useful than an envelope with a red star on it, multiple envelopes with red stars. Email formatting is so much better, including true HTML that keeps formatting intact. Push email is also available out of the box on the Pre. On top of that, Synergy just takes it to a whole nother level, reducing multiple accounts in multiple communications formats down to just communication from an individual seamlessly integrated into one identity.

I completely agree, but when I speak my mind, its quickly shot down I love being able to view messages without even opening the message. Like I have already stated, I can stay connected with my contacts, and emails better than I can with any blackberry device, or any other device I have ever used. No one can sit here and tell me otherwise

[Pimp Lucious]

IMAP and Exchange. My coworker has dropped his twice. No damage.

[BzB]

Originally Posted by formerlyknownasame

Not a sir, first of all. The fact that I am a chick would have been pretty easy to find, but given your lack of research and lack of willingness to do said research is not in the least bit surprising that you wouldn't have found that out by now.

well excuUuUse me, ma'am. i don't follow people around on the internets, so unless you've mentioned it to me directly i wouldn't have known. my apologies for assuming? lol

Originally Posted by formerlyknownasame

You claim to have all of this first-hand experience with your so-called factual evidence and these number-by-number listings of how this unit is a total failure by comparison to a RIM unit. So, I am asking you to provide ACTUAL FACT-and a link to it's source-for these "points" you keep making about this unit. So far all you have posted is YOUR opinion...

that is correct. my opinion based on my direct experience with the palm pre, my readings of other posts made by current/former pre owners from this site and pre dedicated sites, some general reviews from various websites, news announcements made by sprint, and my long standing experience with other smartphones most notably the king of the hill blackberry devices. what more could you ask for!

Originally Posted by formerlyknownasame

You're just hoping that spewing your gospel of RIM Fan-Boy nonsense with not a shred of credible evidence is enough to convince someone else that you are in some way a legitimate source of information.

actually, not trying to change any opinions or convince people of anything. i'm just discussing my pov on the comparison of the palm pre and blackberry in a thread that is...wait for it....about comparing the palm pre and blackberry. am i missing something, is this the wrong thread for that?

Originally Posted by formerlyknownasame

If anything you posted was in any way insightful or remotely correct, perhaps you would have an ounce of credibility with us.

why would i want credibility from a bunch of anonymous strangers on the internets? you silly girl.

and yes, my contributions to this thread are highly insightful and more often than not correct...if i must say so myself. lol

i understand you pre users love your phone and loathe when someone talks less than glowingly about it. that's fine. it shows you're passionate about the things you like. just remember that we're talking about a phone... yes the pre has it's bright spots, but beyond the browser and the eye candy the pre isn't ready for the big leagues. palm has some serious flaws they need to resolve with the pre before it can compete day in and day out on across the board. the keyboard, build quality/materials, oreo slider, data storage model, limited storage, and the keyboard are very weak spots.

maybe when the pre 2 comes out we can have this discussion again and palm might have a real competitor on their hands.

[misterzeno225]

A lot of blackberry users have many comments about a phone they dont have... "HTML is nice, but I need the message not the fluff" ..
I HATED HTML on my curve it was HALF A5SED. Most of the email I receive is HTML format, but yea go ahead every phone except a blackberry is a toy.... yet there are threads in crackberry about finding games for blackberry... you guys claim pre is all shiny but yet there are themes galore ... for sale to make a blackberry look less of an eye sore.. but yea after all you have Blackberry messenger.. Get over your selves jeez, I always thought iphone owners blew the most smoke, but after seeing how much blackberry users come in the pre thread I have to wonder if there is some envy, some of you act upset because we chose a pre over a berry GET OVER IT.

[misterzeno225]

Originally Posted by BzB

well excuUuUse me, ma'am. i don't follow people around on the internets, so unless you've mentioned it to me directly i wouldn't have known. my apologies for assuming? lol



that is correct. my opinion based on my direct experience with the palm pre, my readings of other posts made by current/former pre owners from this site and pre dedicated sites, some general reviews from various websites, news announcements made by sprint, and my long standing experience with other smartphones most notably the king of the hill blackberry devices. what more could you ask for!



actually, not trying to change any opinions or convince people of anything. i'm just discussing my pov on the comparison of the palm pre and blackberry in a thread that is...wait for it....about comparing the palm pre and blackberry. am i missing something, is this the wrong thread for that?




why would i want credibility from a bunch of anonymous strangers on the internets? you silly girl.

and yes, my contributions to this thread are highly insightful and more often than not correct...if i must say so myself. lol

i understand you pre users love your phone and loathe when someone talks less than glowingly about it. that's fine. it shows you're passionate about the things you like. just remember that we're talking about a phone... yes the pre has it's bright spots, but beyond the browser and the eye candy the pre isn't ready for the big leagues. palm has some serious flaws they need to resolve with the pre before it can compete day in and day out on across the board. the keyboard, build quality/materials, oreo slider, data storage model, limited storage, and the keyboard are very weak spots.

maybe when the pre 2 comes out we can have this discussion again and palm might have a real competitor on their hands.

The wonder of blackberry email.... gets your subscription to thread responses quickly so you can continue to preach the berry gospel... ALL HAIL BERRY!

[XxXjacobXxX]

Originally Posted by misterzeno225

A lot of blackberry users have many comments about a phone they dont have... "HTML is nice, but I need the message not the fluff" ..
I HATED HTML on my curve it was HALF A5SED. Most of the email I receive is HTML format, but yea go ahead every phone except a blackberry is a toy.... yet there are threads in crackberry about finding games for blackberry... you guys claim pre is all shiny but yet there are themes galore ... for sale to make a blackberry look less of an eye sore.. but yea after all you have Blackberry messenger.. Get over your selves jeez, I always thought iphone owners blew the most smoke, but after seeing how much blackberry users come in the pre thread I have to wonder if there is some envy, some of you act upset because we chose a pre over a berry GET OVER IT.

I AGREE WITH YOU I HATED MY BLACKBERRY

[BlaqkAudio]

Originally Posted by BzB

i understand you pre users love your phone and loathe when someone talks less than glowingly about it. that's fine. it shows you're passionate about the things you like. just remember that we're talking about a phone...

No, we hate it when someone is clearly and blatantly trolling and gets away with it. None of your posts were insightful at all for many reasons, one of which is that they all boil down to "keyboard sucks, build quality sucks, this sucks, that sucks, the Pre sucks, BlackBerries are the best".

Originally Posted by BzB

yes the pre has it's bright spots, but beyond the browser and the eye candy the pre isn't ready for the big leagues. palm has some serious flaws they need to resolve with the pre before it can compete day in and day out on across the board. the keyboard, build quality/materials, oreo slider, data storage model, limited storage, and the keyboard are very weak spots.

AGAIN. OPINION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE FACT. Perhaps RIM should include a dictionary in every box so it can educate its rabid fanboys.

[dungeonrep]

pre? please! it doesnt even have video recording. when that phone gets that let me know lol. that phone doesnt belong in the same breath as a BB. word up

[Pimp Lucious]

That's funny, my AT&T Curve didn't have video. My Sprint Curve did but I never used it. Look at how many BB still ship with no Wi-fi, something a lot more useful than video. need we bring up threaed SMS? A real browser? OS that doesn't look and feel like it belongs in 2003.