Okay, is anyone seeing OS6 stuff and thinking "Hey, it's a poormans WebOS"?

[D_March]

I hope Palm can make a comeback. I like the way OS 6 looks and think the 9800 looks like a great device. To be honest OP you sound angry in almost all your posts...to me at least. If you like your phone then enjoy it and chill out a little.

[avt123]

Originally Posted by Fat_Easy

Are their a lot of people creating apps for the Palm platform? Everybody makes apps for bb apple and driod

Wrong. Not everyone makes apps for BB. BB is the most frustrating development platform. Developers are not attracted to it. Skyfire even released a statement saying why they wont develop for the platform.

[papped]

Originally Posted by Roo Zilla

I thought the announced 9800 was a knockoff of the Pre when I first saw it. First slider touchscreen phone? That's Palm Pre. That clamshell phone though, is unique. Don't think I've ever seen that design before.

I seriously hope you're joking... Palm did not invent the first slider touchscreen phone...

And the notion that RIM is ripping off features that already exist elsewhere and Palm (or any company for that matter) has not is completely absurd...

[ssbtech]

Originally Posted by HisNameIsOpenSource

couldn't they just create a gesture for the BB menu key and a gesture for the back key?

I don't really like gestures, I'd rather have a physical button to press. Then again, I think most of RIMs customers want physical buttons, or the 9800 wouldn't have a slide out keyboard.

Originally Posted by reeneebob

I like the looks of the slider...so much so I bought it months ago and it's a Pre lol. And the Pre is still more attractive. You wouldn't believe the people that I catch looking at the phone. If it's on the table I've actually caught co-workers stroking it heh.

All personal preference. I like the slightly more utilitarian look of the 9800 vs the Pre. I also like the look of the Bold 9700 more than the other models.

[reeneebob]

I'm still giggling that I seem angry. I admit I am a long time poster of Television Without Pity so my responses are usually heavily laced with snark, but anger over a cell phone? Um...no.

I'm disappointed because I liked my berry alot, and then I got more and more frustrated. I wanted to support a company from my country, I tried to be patient, but I got frustrated and I left. It doesn't mean that I don't still wish they would succeed because I would prefer a Canadian success any day of the week, and it frustrates me to see them release more of the same.

Also, not all criticism towards RIM means someone is angry.

As far as apps, there are far more to choose from than BB, and I'm not battery pulling or worrying about space like I had to do regularly with the Berry, so yes, I am much happier with Palm. HP's latest comments on more smartphones with WebOS mean I am more than comfortable with supporting Palm. ****, I may still go iPhone 4, who knows. What I do know is that there will be one less Berry in my home in the next few months because my fiance hates his so much its about to meet a sledgehammer, and it's disappointing to see the second person in my home feel that way over a phone we both started out liking a lot.

I never said other companies don't rip off each other. However, everything I have seen about OS 6 is screaming WebOS with a small side of Android. It's more than a little obvious.

I guess I thought this was a subforum where Palm owners could talk about their phones and their disappointment with RIM etc without being told to go away, but I guess that was wrong too.

[Fat_Easy]

Originally Posted by avt123

Wrong. Not everyone makes apps for BB. BB is the most frustrating development platform. Developers are not attracted to it. Skyfire even released a statement saying why they wont develop for the platform.

No Skyfire was putting a lot of money into the bb 5 platform and RIM was moving to a totally new platform with BB6. No one whats to develop for a sunsetting platform. So they focused on Android

[avt123]

Originally Posted by Fat_Easy

No Skyfire was putting a lot of money into the bb 5 platform and RIM was moving to a totally new platform with BB6. No one whats to develop for a sunsetting platform. So they focused on Android

Once again no lol. Skyfire said this.....

The Blackberry developer environment is not as favorable for cutting-edge application development. The APIs are fragmented and inconsistent, and the Java virtual machine Blackberry requires is not efficient. While Blackberry users are desperate for a better browser – we know, and we hear them – we only want to bring out something that meets our high standards and is truly great.

Skyfire Stops BlackBerry Development, Focusing on Android

[shanshor]

Originally Posted by HisNameIsOpenSource

I am still shaking my head on this one the slider screen is going to have pinch to zoom, so one would assume it will have gesture based actions as well, why would you need the 4 navigation buttons? couldn't they just create a gesture for the BB menu key and a gesture for the back key? it seems like they should have tailored to the hardware more the way they tailored the Storm's OS to fit its hardware.

If I know RIM, and I would say I have a good idea of their work, I would say that the multitouch experience will be garbage. I'm glad they got sense and put navigation buttons in there, and especially the keyboard

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Originally Posted by reeneebob

I never said other companies don't rip off each other. However, everything I have seen about OS 6 is screaming WebOS with a small side of Android. It's more than a little obvious.

Most all of Android's UI + sense is a complete port of HTC touchflo 3d from WM + SPB Mobile Shell layout (I wonder if that's why they called it ... Sense UI... on WM)...

So android's UI didn't change much at all in the first place.

Yet everyone thinks Android devices invented the UI because they know no better...

[dwaynewilliams]

Originally Posted by reeneebob

Seriously, RIM has just totally and completely ripped off WebOS. Universal search is so so new and revolutionary? ORLY?

How the **** is OS6 so super special with it's a less pretty looking poor mans WebOS?

I will agree with you that OS 6 isn't such a far departure to the previous OS 5. I think that it may be at best slightly better, which means its still a really good OS. As for a "poor man's WebOS" I don't know about that. Outside of the multi-tasking cards, there really isn't that much to WebOS that hasn't been done by everyone else. I think that all of the platforms build their OS from ideas of other platforms. That seems to be how things go.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[seankrems2009]

Okay coming from my beloved Torch I hate how you could possibly call it a poor mans webOS. Blackberry may not come as close to the times as they really could be doing but for the selection they put out and the reliability BB haas come to show, you cant compare. Palm has two devices going for it and BB has close to six. Palms OS maybe, in a sense, more fluid, Blackberry has achieved to make better what their know for. Email and messaging.

[stardomains]

The reviews look pretty good. I like the clean looks. I'm tempted to croos over to the Pre 2.

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Cheap pre1 + web os 2 is probably a much better bet and requires no upgrade...

[N8ter]

Agree. The worst thing about Palm Pre was being released as a Pre Exclusive and then not putting the Pre and Pixi+ on all carriers.

Sprint had a bad phone portfolio, as did T-Mobile. They could have sold a lot of phones.

Putting it on AT&T and Verizon was a bad choice because AT&T had high end phones for every platform (iOS, WinMo, Palm, Symbian) except Android and Verizon had their Droid Does campaign going on, and every other OS except iOS.

Sprint had a terrible phone portfolio up until the launch of the Evo and Epic 4G phones, and T-Mobile really wasn't all that much better. They could have made a lot of sells on those networks.

Personally I think the keyboards are too small on those phones, and the screens should have been at least 3.5" (both Torch and Pre/Pre+). The Pixi was decent, but I like more RAM and storage in my devices.

I did try out a Sprint Pre, and while the OS was fantastic the hardware left much to be desired...

Pre2 will run faster than a Pre with WebOS 2.0. It has a much better processor. It also has a Gorilla Glas Screen, and probably faster RAM and NAND inside as well.

Still a crappy form factor with a crappy keyboard, though.

Key combinations to access functions on a phone are anaethema to non-business users, IMO.