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    There was a post following an article regarding T-Mobile's continued support for UMA on new devices over on TmoNews. Is there any traction to this speculation?

    I know that the Tmo Blackberry supports UMA and that is what is driving my toward this device rather than the AT&T version.

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    I don't know if this is true or not, but it would make a bit of sense with their new plan layout. TMO is shifting direction if you ask me, almost to the point of being an upscale version of MetroPCS. They're all about unlimited plans at lower prices.

    With unlimited plans comes less of a need for UMA, which users primarily used to make phone calls without using minutes. It really does stink if that's their reasoning though, because UMA helps in some other ways.
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    They dropped their $10 UMA / unlimited calling option, so the primary purpose of UMA is to provide a connection where you don't have one. I have a friend downstate who has no T*Mo coverage at his place, and I am on UMA all weekend. If they were to drop it, I'd probably have to consider shopping other cell providers and see what pricing is like.
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    I don't think tmobile should drop uma. Even if their network expands uma relieves some of the congestion. As more and more smartphones crave for data. Tmobile will have the same problem as ATT.

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    With 3G coverage comes less of a need for UMA. Also, I've yet to see an Android device have UMA capability. Blackberries and other handsets have.
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    I sure hope they're not dropping it! That being said, I'm still paying (as of the bill I paid today) $10 for unlimited uma calling on my family plan. Also, 3G does not take the place of uma - I use it primarily inside my well-built, 50 year old house. I get no signal inside, 3G, edge, gsm or otherwise. If they dropped uma, I'd need to get a land line again.

    Edit: I'm also pretty sure the recently released Motorola Cliq is an Android phone with uma calling.

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    If they drop UMA, I'm out.
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    I just received this text from tmobile

    "Free T-Mobile Msg: T-Mobile charges for international dialing, including Wi-Fi calls. Please monitor your usage and visit T-Mobile.com for current rates."

    Anyone else get it?

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    does that mean no more free uma calls from international location back to usa using tmobile uma?
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    Yep, this is correct according to TMO rep I just hung up with. The rep told me that it is the system glitches. Guess what it took them over years to figure this glitches

    My guess is that all rep have been trained well to provide this answer (system glitches) rather than saying TMO has dropped this feature going forward

    My guess is that not for long unlimited UMA calling for domestic might get dropped too. This is just purely my speculation. If that happens, I will jump ship after 8 years royal customer with 5 lines with them.
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    I just called 611 and was told that the uma calling is still free from abroad back to US and that there's no system changes that she was aware of.
    The charges only apply to calls made to non-US numbers. Can somebody else please confirm?
    Thanks a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rennfahrer View Post
    I just called 611 and was told that the uma calling is still free from abroad back to US and that there's no system changes that she was aware of.
    The charges only apply to calls made to non-US numbers. Can somebody else please confirm?
    Thanks a bunch.

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    Yes please. Any relaible TMO rep here to confirm this.
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    Bs, when u connect to uma, t-mo can't detect if u oversea or not. U using wifi and not their network. So keep on using it, they won't be able to tell.

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    "Reliable" + "TMo rep" = nonsense. Sorry, but two just don't coexist. I just spent an hour this week fixing the mistakes another rep made a couple of weeks before when swapping out my unit under warranty?

    What about the time I declined insurance and they added it to my line, anyway?

    Or what about the time they updated my handset, and cancelled and recreated my account without telling me? Not so big a problem as the fact that they did it in the name and SSN of someone else.

    Etc.

    At least they're friendly.

    Edit: Oh, and if they drop that advantage of UMA, I'm probably gone for a Tour2 on Vz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spankypoo View Post
    "Reliable" + "TMo rep" = nonsense. Sorry, but two just don't coexist. I just spent an hour this week fixing the mistakes another rep made a couple of weeks before when swapping out my unit under warranty?

    What about the time I declined insurance and they added it to my line, anyway?

    Or what about the time they updated my handset, and cancelled and recreated my account without telling me? Not so big a problem as the fact that they did it in the name and SSN of someone else.

    Etc.

    At least they're friendly.

    Edit: Oh, and if they drop that advantage of UMA, I'm probably gone for a Tour2 on Vz.
    For whatever it is worth, this only affects international WiFi call. All domestic WiFi call remains unchanged from what I was told.
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    I don't quite understand why people are so quick to jump ship if they get rid of UMA. Is there another carrier that offers wifi calling that I'm unaware of?

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    I hope T-Mobile doesn't drop UMA. I mean, I'd probably end up staying with them anyway but I do like UMA for when I don't have coverage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielcj View Post
    I don't quite understand why people are so quick to jump ship if they get rid of UMA. Is there another carrier that offers wifi calling that I'm unaware of?

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    No, there's not. But for many people, UMA is really needed.

    So for some, if T-Mobile drops UMA, people will have to move to another carrier that offers better coverage to make up for the lack of UMA (such as Verizon).
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    Quote Originally Posted by doxa sub750T View Post
    For whatever it is worth, this only affects international WiFi call. All domestic WiFi call remains unchanged from what I was told.
    How can they tell if it is international or domestic wifi when connected thru wifi? The answer is they can't!

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    I'm not doubting that doxa is telling the truth here....it's just, reps wouldn't ever know information like this. Ever. They do CS and help with sales, they aren't kept in the loop AT ALL about possible future changes like this. I think the reps that doxa talked to are either just reading from a script that they must follow or they just BS'd.

    I was told by many reps months ago that I'd be charged if I used UMA overseas to call home. Well, that's obviously not true. I don't see why this would be any different here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeju View Post
    Edit: I'm also pretty sure the recently released Motorola Cliq is an Android phone with uma calling.

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    I was just in malaysia in december and my bb ran exclusively on wifi for calls back to the US and for all my emails/web browsing. No charges on my bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisCell View Post
    Unfortunately there are no non-BB smartphones with UMA on T-Mobile except the Shadow 2009
    i beg to differ
    there's a nokia also with uma
    forgot the number
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisCell View Post
    Unfortunately there are no non-BB smartphones with UMA on T-Mobile except the Shadow 2009
    There's also a Sony Ericsson G705, but i don't know of anyone using it w Tmo's service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rennfahrer View Post
    i beg to differ
    there's a nokia also with uma
    forgot the number
    It's either not a smartphone or not a T-Mobile sponsored device.

    The Sony Ericsson mentioned above isn't a T-Mobile sponsored device either, nor is it a smartphone, I don't believe.
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