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04-02-2010, 02:04 AM
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Do all 3g phones handle hspa+?
For Example, I live in LA and they are upgrading the network to hspa+. If I have the 9700, will it be able to get faster speeds, or will it not affect me because the hardware does not support hspa+?
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04-02-2010, 07:21 AM
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Yes and no. Yes you will see faster speeds depending on network traffic. No you will not see the full HSPA+ speeds on your 9700.
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04-02-2010, 11:47 AM
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I believe the 9700 clocks out at 3.6 Mbps, not the 7.2 Mbps that HSPA+ brings.
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04-02-2010, 12:40 PM
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i thought hspa+ generally gives you 21 mbits/s. tmo is different?
also, what new phones will take advantage of the new hspa+ network?
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04-02-2010, 02:32 PM
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Some phones will support HSPA+. G1/MyTouch will. 9700 will not. I believe the HD2 will as well
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04-02-2010, 02:46 PM
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the 9000 supports hspa, but i don't think any of tmobiles current selling phones do, but i'm also in LA with 2 unlocked 9000's on t-mobile, waiting patiently.
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04-05-2010, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by katiepea  the 9000 supports hspa, but i don't think any of tmobiles current selling phones do, but i'm also in LA with 2 unlocked 9000's on t-mobile, waiting patiently. | I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the 9000's do not support T-Mobile's 3G bands, therefore no matter what, you will not be able to get 3G at all. You need a T-Mobile branded 3G phone in order to do so (or at the very least a phone that has AWS 1700/2100 bands). It may be time to look at the 9700 or some other T-Mobile 3G phone.
The 9000's will work fine on AT&T's 3G network, however.
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04-05-2010, 10:22 AM
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You will notice a speed difference due to less congestion on the current 3G network as more and more devices move to Tmo's 21mb/sec network. Only those devices that list HSPA+ will get the much higher top end.
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04-05-2010, 03:20 PM
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According to what I've read the hspa bands expand onto what the 9000 DOES support, but I guess that could be wrong, and I was also under the impression the 9700 doesn't do hspa, but regardless, I wouldn't ever buy a 9700, don't like it
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04-05-2010, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by katiepea According to what I've read the hspa bands expand onto what the 9000 DOES support, but I guess that could be wrong, and I was also under the impression the 9700 doesn't do hspa, but regardless, I wouldn't ever buy a 9700, don't like it
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com | To quote Artemis above: "I believe the 9700 clocks out at 3.6 Mbps, not the 7.2 Mbps that HSPA+ brings." This is true. However, with your Bold 9000, the 3G hardware in the phone cannot pick up any of T-Mobile's 3G services and will max out only on EDGE on T-Mo. Again, if they were on AT&T, then you would get 3G.
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04-05-2010, 03:57 PM
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I guess I just don't get why when I go to tmobiles wiki on hspa+ and see what bands it supports, then go the the 9000's wiki and see that it has those same bands it just confuses me, guess I'm retarded
As far as current 3G not working on tmobile yes I knew that before I switched from at&t and unlocked for tmobile, to be honest, I get faster speeds from tmobiles edge in LA than at&t's 3G, at&t is awful here. But from everything I've read HSPA+ brings higher 3G bands along with it. Am I wrong?
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04-05-2010, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by katiepea I guess I just don't get why when I go to tmobiles wiki on hspa+ and see what bands it supports, then go the the 9000's wiki and see that it has those same bands it just confuses me, guess I'm retarded
As far as current 3G not working on tmobile yes I knew that before I switched from at&t and unlocked for tmobile, to be honest, I get faster speeds from tmobiles edge in LA than at&t's 3G, at&t is awful here. But from everything I've read HSPA+ brings higher 3G bands along with it. Am I wrong?
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com | The bands will be the same as they are now (1700/2100) unless T-Mo freed up spectrum on 1900 band or something like that.
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Originally Posted by rcw1980 The bands will be the same as they are now (1700/2100) unless T-Mo freed up spectrum on 1900 band or something like that. | 1700/1900/2100 I believe are the HSPA+ bands.
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Originally Posted by katiepea the 9000 supports hspa, but i don't think any of tmobiles current selling phones do, but i'm also in LA with 2 unlocked 9000's on t-mobile, waiting patiently. | As I mentioned above, the G1 and MyTouch will support HSPA+
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Nothing changed with the Bands T-mobile is using to get HSPA+ basically data will be transfered over an IP network once it hits the site rather than move over the same T-1 as voice traffic. HSPA right now is 7.2 Mbps but when HSPA+ is live it will have theoretical download speeds of 21 Mbps. As for what handsets support HSPA+, well I couldn't tell you. Who needs 4G when this is double what 4G can do? And to think 20 years ago we needed a brief case to power a cell phone on an analog network..
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