Storm vs. iPhone vs. G1

[Adjei]

Originally Posted by Steve112

You could also say why should I be limited to either 8 or 16 gb with the Iphone? Without being able to expand upon the on board memory, only gives you two options. With a computer, you can always upgrade things as you see fit, such as the hard drive. You may have not need all the space to begin with, but now you do. It gives you the option. Unlike the Iphone, which gives you really no option. Its either 8gb or 16. No more, no less. I do agree that it adds cost, but its not a huge cost. SD cards are relatively cheap. Either way the point is that what RIM is trying to do is give you the option on how much memory the device has without limiting you just to the internal memory.

Yes you can change the cards and have as many as you want, but Apple's way is more convenient. Most people don't want to deal with these cards, it's better if the memory is included. Apple makes sure they match the current highest capacity memory cards on the market. These cards can be misplaced and it bears additional cost for the user. Also you can't run apps from these cards, which may make it useless for some consumers.

[Steve112]

Originally Posted by Adjei

Yes you can change the cards and have as many as you want, but Apple's way is more convenient. Most people don't want to deal with these cards, it's better if the memory is included. Apple makes sure they match the current highest capacity memory cards on the market. These cards can be misplaced and it bears additional cost for the user. Also you can't run apps from these cards, which may make it useless for some consumers.

To be honest, I dont how you can say "most people". Your generalizing a statement that you believe to be true is true for everyone else. I myself believe that a mix between the two would be the best alternative, not just one or the other. I would like a bunch of on board memory, plus the advantage of adding more. I dont believe either one alone gives a clear advanatge. They both have ups and downs. I dont know what most people want, but I dont think Apple's way of doing things is really that much easier. As far as apps go, I have a ton of apps on my 8830 and have no issue with memory watsoever. I dont think the memory for apps is a big deal, but thats just me.

[checkingout]

iPhone wins with the ability to run applications from its 8/16GB memory - that is huge for future/current needs. Being able to upgrade device memory (Micro SD cards) and Battery, instead of having to replace the ENTIRE device is the BB Storm's advantage.

[VoltaicShock]

Originally Posted by Adjei

Yes you can change the cards and have as many as you want, but Apple's way is more convenient. Most people don't want to deal with these cards, it's better if the memory is included. Apple makes sure they match the current highest capacity memory cards on the market. These cards can be misplaced and it bears additional cost for the user. Also you can't run apps from these cards, which may make it useless for some consumers.

Do you know for a fact that the OS on the Storm can't run apps from the memory cards?

[zyad]

The storm comes with an 8 gig card. Therefore it has the same capacity to store media as the base model iPhone. If you want more, you can easily buy more, and it's not expensive, and it will support 32 gigs with future firmware.
Honestly, I think people just want more memory for bragging rights. In reality, 8 and 16 gigs can hold a lot of media, especially considering this is a phone we're talking about.
As for memory for applications: How many do you people actually install / need on your phones? 128 megs is by no means a big amount of memory, but realistically, it can hold quite a bit of applications. I know in my case, I probably wouldn't need more than that.
This brings me to another point: If we are all being realistic here, in general I don't see people out there keeping their phones more than 2-3 years. In other words, if the phone you buy fills your needs today, then chances are it'll still fill your needs on that day a couple of years from now when you are looking to upgrade. Most of the time, people upgrade because there is something better out there (not necessarily out of need), and because their phone is beat up / broken / scratched etc... Like it or not, people are spoiled when it comes to this, and they can't distinguish between what they NEED and what they WANT.
Another advantage to the Storm's removable memory: In a couple of years, when you are looking for a new phone, it'll be a lot easier for you to simply insert your old cards in there and have access to your old media files. And if you are the (rare) type of person who keeps his phone for more than 3 years, think of the higher capacity that will be available when 64 gig or higher cards are available and affordable, without having to upgrade your phone.
As an aside, in reality, in this day and age, cell phones are becoming a disposable item. You buy it, use it for a couple of years, then get that next shiny thing that comes out. If you guys take a step back and take a look at the big picture, just consider this: I have been with my employer less than 2 years, and I have a company Blackberry that at the time was the best BB model out there and look next to my avatar: It's a 8700 model. Less than 2 years have gone by and since then, the 8800 came out, then the Curve (in all its iterations), the Bold, and now the Storm will be out... ALL THIS in under 2 years! So maybe these little debates about what is better than what and nitpicking about specs are nothing more than a waste of time. Go out and buy whichever phone you think serves your needs today best, because it won't be long until you get rid of it anyway!

[mahen915]

Just thought I'd share this:



Looks like the Storm meets all those specs

[Adjei]

Funny that's not a 3g iPhone.

[stratman103]

One of the big draw backs to the iPhone's 8 or 16 gig memory is that you have to (at least I haven't found another way to do it) go through iTunes to use it. I've read that when the Storm is plugged into your computer, you'll see two drives appear in your My Computer. One for the onboard, one for the memory card. That's a huge benefit. What if I want to just move a txt or exe file from home to work?

The removable media is a WAY better route to go than iTunes.

[kingohearts2005]

Originally Posted by Adjei

But that is no advantage, that's just a spin, why do I have to go buy additional memory after I purchase the phone because the amount included is so small, that's like saying I've just purchased a computer with limited hard drive space but I can go and purchase additional hard drives to give it more memory. What If I don't have any 16 gb cards lying around, do I have to go out and purchase additional cards, that just adds more additional costs to the device.

Just like apple releases a 16 gig iphone and now have talks of releasing a 32 gig model. It's life. Deal with it. You can go get a 16 gig card now and wait on the phone to come out. And I would guess that it could handle a 32 gig card theoretically speaking when they are produced.

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[epsylum]

Originally Posted by zyad

The storm comes with an 8 gig card. Therefore it has the same capacity to store media as the base model iPhone. If you want more, you can easily buy more, and it's not expensive, and it will support 32 gigs with future firmware.

Some people are missing this part.

As said above, the Storm will come with an 8GB MicroSD card + the 1GB on board. I have a 2GB and a 8GB card for my 8330 already (the 2GB was for my old Samsung Alias). With another 8GB card I have 8+8+2+1 = 19GB of memory available to me right away. I have never spent over $30 for a memory card either (DON'T buy them from a big box store or the cell phone store, you are getting ripped off). I do plan to get a 16GB card right away with the Storm as I use my BB as my MP3 player now and I love having a lot of music at my finger tips.

In my experience, removable media and batteries are a huge plus.

As for the original link. If they were going to keep knocking on the Storm for not being released yet, why compare it? If that is the case my 8330 beats the snot out of the next iPhone because I don't know anything about the 3rd gen iPhone yet, but I know everything about my Curve.

[johnly]

Originally Posted by pete2s

The iPhone has 16GB standard. The Storm 1GB.
The iPhone has 16GB for programs. The Storm 128MB.
The Storm allows for changeable SD cards. The iPhone does not.

Overall, I'd have to say the iPhone has a vastly superior memory system.

Not. For a few bucks you can have just as much memory as an i phone. the storm has 8 gigs for whatever off the shelf, and you can easily put more on. I love doing business, and the i phone can't even begin to compare to the messaging capabilities of a blackberry, of coarse blackberry has been in the mobile email business allot longer than apple. For those about to rock........ "we salute you" Bang!

[McCracken]

Originally Posted by johnly

Not. For a few bucks you can have just as much memory as an i phone. the storm has 8 gigs for whatever off the shelf, and you can easily put more on. I love doing business, and the i phone can't even begin to compare to the messaging capabilities of a blackberry, of coarse blackberry has been in the mobile email business allot longer than apple. For those about to rock........ "we salute you" Bang!

This thread has been dead for 9 months. Are you for real?

[johnly]

Originally Posted by McCracken

This thread has been dead for 9 months. Are you for real?

Yea, just new hear and not sure how this works? He he. Sorry man if this thread is dead then why is it still hear? I guess knowing that I will pay attention to the dates from now on! "in the medical field of study" now I really feel lame!

[darethas]

errr.. hehehe

[Sirhil]

Originally Posted by Adjei

Funny that's not a 3g iPhone.

Whats even funnier is how can you tell. They all look the same. **** even rocks change with time but the iphone just keeps on keeping on. WOW fan boys never see it for what it really is.

Edit: Now this thread can die. LOL sorry i had to.