Storm - Enough is enough - this 9530 device sucks.

[mexii]

why dont u just get rid of it? thats whay i'd do :/

[BBartist]

I think you have this whole thing backwards...the Storm doesn't like you

[Krypto]

Sure there were issues, but that's what happens when carriers push to release a phone before it's actually ready. If you're unwilling to wait for the next official OS release, that's up to you. Flat out though, the Storm is not for everyone, just like the iPhone is not for everyone, just like the G1 is not for everyone, etc. Most users are happy with their Storms, and most people haven't had all the complaints you've had. Yes, there are issues, but it's a pretty solid phone in most people's opinions. But again, it isn't for everyone. If you don't like it, fine, but no need to get so pissy over it.

[MarcusAurelius]

Originally Posted by denismcd

3. RIM has become like Windows! Reboot should NEVER be a 'try this...' troubleshooting step. I don't wanna reboot my OS to fix an issue, nor should I have to unless it is an official hotfix.

Are you serious? That's the basic first step to fixing problems with any operating system. Clearing the RAM just makes sense. Do you realize how insanely complicated it is to run software on a computer (let alone how complicated the logic in microprocessors is)? It's amazing it even works as well as it does. My advice is to stay as far away from computers as possible if this is honestly your attitude; your stress level will thank you in the end.

[denismcd]

Originally Posted by AppStateAddict

Yeahhh, about that. You obviously didn't read anything I wrote earlier. First of all, if you didn't have the foresight to recognize the Storm wasn't the best fit for a business setting, then I feel no pity. While this BB can operate in BES it is pretty obvious the bold or 8900 are much better fits when it comes to enterprise applications. On top of that, it's called branching out. Any and every business eventually spreads out from its core demographics and market to reach new buyers and this is exactly what RIM is doing here. Apple branched out with the iPhone into a previously untested cell phone market.

And your comments about failing in the consumer market is beyond overstated. First of all, back that up with some hard evidence as opposed to making a blanket statement. And this "failing" that you speak of is only in those who had unrealistic expectations before they used the device and/or users who simply didn't have the patience to work with their device and allow for all the bugs to be worked out. As I stated before VZW forced RIM to push this device to market before they were ready and we can see it isn't where they had hoped. But the same was true of the iPhone and it is now widely considered to be the best convergent device in the marketplace today.

One example of statistical data

1 in 3 BB Storm Owners is Happy; iPhone Moves In on RIM Turf - MarketingVOX

Remember...not every Storm owner subscribes, or eve reads, crackberry.

I'm done. Didn't mean to twist panties so much.

out

dm

[denismcd]

Originally Posted by MarcusAurelius

Are you serious? That's the basic first step to fixing problems with any operating system. Clearing the RAM just makes sense. Do you realize how insanely complicated it is to run software on a computer (let alone how complicated the logic in microprocessors is)? It's amazing it even works as well as it does. My advice is to stay as far away from computers as possible if this is honestly your attitude; your stress level will thank you in the end.

You are wrong. Reboot should be a last resort or only applied to upgrades or patches. Reboot should never be considered routine maintenance. RAM can and should be cleared absent a reboot if the application is coded properly.

I am not about to get into a credentials 'big ****' contest with you, I will win (both). If you write code that requres routine reboots then that is your business.

[Chuck Q]

either i got super lucky or everyone else just got super un-lucky, but i have no more problems with my strom than i have had with any other cell phone.

Opening apps isnt slow, i dont have to ever reset unless im installing or deleting a new app. The touch screen is absolutely amazing, far better than any other touch screen i have used (yes including iphone). After having the click screen ill never be able to use another touch phone as efficiently. I can type much faster on my storm than my dare.

I come on here and am so satisfied with my phone i cant help but wonder if people make this stuff up, because i have had 0 of the same problems. even as my first blackberry it is incredibly easy to use and works perfectly.

the only real issue i ever had was battery drain after .109 upgrade, but since the install it seems to have fixed itself and now lasts almost 3 days on a charge with normal use, about a day with heavy use. Just like my dare did.

[rfdesort]

Oh for sure, it definitely is a place of discussion, no doubt. It seems after you wrote a lengthy argument against the Storm there's no real purpose in 'debating' it, as you appear pretty set in your ways. I just dont see a real purpose in your posting (other than to vent frustration). I've never personally been a fan of ranting in the first place. Just cause you have an issue doesn't mean everyone needs to hear about it - get a blog.

[Amarau]

so the data your using is from "December 9-15, 2008 survey of 3,803 cell phone owners takes a close look at smartphone market?" Well if that's your logic i can see why you hate your storm and I'd also like to link you the poll i found with 4 of 5 construction workers preferring asbestos over any other material from 1936.

Personally it sounds like you made an uninformed decision based on your previous experience with other Blackberry models and because of that you figured that the Storm, although completely different from all the others would run just as perfect as soon as it came out of the box. There are plenty of things that the Storm can do that other phones can't just like other touchscreen phones can do. If you wanted an Iphone like phone you should have just gotten an Iphone but if you think that is the perfect device your just as wrong as thinking the Storm is a POS.

[EnergyPlus]

:::: yawn ::::

[showdownm]

I finally got rid of it - i just went back to my curve 30 min ago - you realize how great the browsing is on the storm but wow the typing on the curve is amazing!!!

[denismcd]

Originally Posted by Amarau

so the data your using is from "December 9-15, 2008 survey of 3,803 cell phone owners takes a close look at smartphone market?" Well if that's your logic i can see why you hate your storm and I'd also like to link you the poll i found with 4 of 5 construction workers preferring asbestos over any other material from 1936.

Personally it sounds like you made an uninformed decision based on your previous experience with other Blackberry models and because of that you figured that the Storm, although completely different from all the others would run just as perfect as soon as it came out of the box. There are plenty of things that the Storm can do that other phones can't just like other touchscreen phones can do. If you wanted an Iphone like phone you should have just gotten an Iphone but if you think that is the perfect device your just as wrong as thinking the Storm is a POS.

I will provide additional documentation if you'd like. You need to look at NON-TECHNICAL users. I, and you, are early adopters and 'geeks'. We are the mintoriy. Stop being an *******.

I've used Blackberry since the early days...9250, 8830. 8330, etc...you miss my point. I love RIM, my source of frustration is the fact that they [b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b]ed up with this phone.

Can you show me any positive satsifactions stats OUTSIDE of Crackberry? I would love to see them.

Good night. This is clearly not the place for objective discussions.

[denismcd]

As an aside... why to they replace D-I-C-K or B-L-O-W-J-O-B with astersks but not '[b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b]ed'?

[youngspider]

Why some of ya'll so serious? The OP just telling u how he feel. Some of u acting like bb's are the best phones out there, if its good enough for you then it is, but obviously it wasn't good enough for the OP.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[redribbon]

Originally Posted by denismcd

You are wrong. Reboot should be a last resort or only applied to upgrades or patches. Reboot should never be considered routine maintenance. RAM can and should be cleared absent a reboot if the application is coded properly.

I am not about to get into a credentials 'big ****' contest with you, I will win (both). If you write code that requres routine reboots then that is your business.

i definitley agree with u...im a storm n iphone user myself but believe me theres to many storm sensitive fanboy in here.they dont want to admitted that their religion(beloved storm) n mine too(since im using one) failed.
so dont wasting ur time on explaining how sucks the device was,just smile on it bro.u dont get anything by throwing the opinion since this is the fanboy forum.im almost done with the locking screen when the incoming calls occured(when rims will fix this problem?).


ps.sorry for my bad english