I dont think Storm + BBOS will ever get better. It sucks. Period

[Fureio]

I stuck with the Storm 1 for 9 months. I waited for the coveted 5.0 revolution that will knock my socks off and make me so excited I'll gasp for air. Then I waited to see that the Storm 2 was more of the same with more onboard memory and 4 touchscreen buttons instead of one big fat one.

Hey look my screen clicks! That got retarded after day 1 when my girlfriend kept nagging me to put the phone down while in bed because the clicking kept her up.

Facts:
5 minute reboots (Seriously wtf this is so reminiscent of Windows 95)

Battery pulls mandatory 3-4 times a day pre 5.0, still once daily post 5.0 (lol...)

More and more Continent wide email/bbm outages lately thanks to centralization at Blackberry causing me to lose money due to lack of communication.

Storm 1 moves like a slug once the uptime gets higher and higher. Approved and rushed OS updates that continue to break core and integrated features. (MySpace App took 6 months to get a update so you could do more than just update a status. It was such a horrible app i opted out of myspace and joined team facebook primarily because i could manage it though my $600 smartphone)

Available apps are pathetically small compared to the Android Market and the iPhone iTunes store.

Surepress and auto correct pair horribly.

the virtual keyboard can use some improvement as both the Droid and iPhone virtual landscape keyboards are so much better to use. Once again the click to touch thing makes it that much harder to type on on both versions of the Storm.

BBOS has decades to go for it to be touchscreen compatible. BBOS 5.0 was not given a touch flavor and still is optimally used and navigated on a trackball/trackpad.

All paid apps on BB appstore can be found FOR FREE on the iTunes and Market competitor versions

Tethering is illegal if you dont opt into a extra pay plan on you carrier (Verizon wont currently let you legally tether your Storm due to a OS conflict, lol again)

Ausurion Neglect insurance does not consider Storm an advanced device therefore charges you the lower monthly rate compared to the Droid. I suppose this is a slap in the face but a good thing for the consumer.

Docs to Go gives your the ability to edit word, and excel documents, something the android version doesnt let you do.

Core Facebook app for the Storm is what it shouldve been 9 months ago, yet it doesnt integrate into your contacts as well as it does on the Droid

BBM = Google Gtalk on the droid

This blasted Storm doesnt install apps to the SD card limiting my apps to ten on the device and ONE theme. This is after i butcher a OS by shrinking it and ripping a lot of nonsense like thai and swiss languages out of it. Seriously, why cant we opt out of this during a BB OS install? Another WTF

OMG does anyone remember the multicolor screen of death? Happened a lot pre 5.0
Hate to say but 5.0 just didnt do enough for me to not consider leaving the Blackberry world. I was hooked. I was a crackberry head.

THen I got my droid and my eyes really opened. I saw what I was truly missing and kept slapping myself for being such a loyal fan of such a substandard product.

5 minute reboots shouldve been enough to return and cancel before the 30 days were up. Never again will i settle for self maintenance of battery pulls and 5 minute spontaneous reboots. That itself (which still happens, less frequently but still happen) will make it so I never look back.

Droid really does. Take care Crackberry, you were good to me. Really taught me a lot about Smart Phones and how to avoid Verizon Customer Service with their fake enthusiasm and monotone reps following call flow.

This website does kick ***.

[Jwirtz89]

Holy **** write a [b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b]in book why don't ya

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[fecurtis]

Waahhhhhhh Waahhhhhhh

Enjoy the Droid...hope you feel better about yourself with your "boo hoo RIM will never be good" crying session.

[Fureio]

nice try troll.


here... eat this up. this itself will explain to you not just why the storm sucks, but everything under 256 megs of internal memory sucks for blackberry.

FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android « Geek For Me – Android CDMA Sprint Hero

This write up alone explains how much better the process and memory management system is compared to Storm 1. This alone is enough to give me a warm fuzzy in leaving my storm behind.





Nice try but ultimately, fail

[howarmat]

Originally Posted by Fureio

I stuck with the Storm 1 for 9 months. I waited for the coveted 5.0 revolution that will knock my socks off and make me so excited I'll gasp for air. Then I waited to see that the Storm 2 was more of the same with more onboard memory and 4 touchscreen buttons instead of one big fat one.

Hey look my screen clicks! That got retarded after day 1 when my girlfriend kept nagging me to put the phone down while in bed because the clicking kept her up.

Facts:
5 minute reboots (Seriously wtf this is so reminiscent of Windows 95) mine takes under 2:30

Battery pulls mandatory 3-4 times a day pre 5.0, still once daily post 5.0 (lol...) User error

More and more Continent wide email/bbm outages lately thanks to centralization at Blackberry causing me to lose money due to lack of communication.

Storm 1 moves like a slug once the uptime gets higher and higher. Approved and rushed OS updates that continue to break core and integrated features. (MySpace App took 6 months to get a update so you could do more than just update a status. It was such a horrible app i opted out of myspace and joined team facebook primarily because i could manage it though my $600 smartphone) User error

Available apps are pathetically small compared to the Android Market and the iPhone iTunes store.

Surepress and auto correct pair horribly. theme developing....user error

the virtual keyboard can use some improvement as both the Droid and iPhone virtual landscape keyboards are so much better to use. Once again the click to touch thing makes it that much harder to type on on both versions of the Storm. user error

BBOS has decades to go for it to be touchscreen compatible. BBOS 5.0 was not given a touch flavor and still is optimally used and navigated on a trackball/trackpad.

All paid apps on BB appstore can be found FOR FREE on the iTunes and Market competitor versions completely false...you still pay for fart apps on the jesus phone too

Tethering is illegal if you dont opt into a extra pay plan on you carrier (Verizon wont currently let you legally tether your Storm due to a OS conflict, lol again) false, VZW and tethering works fine...user error

Ausurion Neglect insurance does not consider Storm an advanced device therefore charges you the lower monthly rate compared to the Droid. I suppose this is a slap in the face but a good thing for the consumer.

Docs to Go gives your the ability to edit word, and excel documents, something the android version doesnt let you do.

Core Facebook app for the Storm is what it shouldve been 9 months ago, yet it doesnt integrate into your contacts as well as it does on the Droid

BBM = Google Gtalk on the droid

This blasted Storm doesnt install apps to the SD card limiting my apps to ten on the device and ONE theme. This is after i butcher a OS by shrinking it and ripping a lot of nonsense like thai and swiss languages out of it. Seriously, why cant we opt out of this during a BB OS install? Another WTF

OMG does anyone remember the multicolor screen of death? Happened a lot pre 5.0
Hate to say but 5.0 just didnt do enough for me to not consider leaving the Blackberry world. I was hooked. I was a crackberry head.

THen I got my droid and my eyes really opened. I saw what I was truly missing and kept slapping myself for being such a loyal fan of such a substandard product.

5 minute reboots shouldve been enough to return and cancel before the 30 days were up. Never again will i settle for self maintenance of battery pulls and 5 minute spontaneous reboots. That itself (which still happens, less frequently but still happen) will make it so I never look back.

Droid really does. Take care Crackberry, you were good to me. Really taught me a lot about Smart Phones and how to avoid Verizon Customer Service with their fake enthusiasm and monotone reps following call flow.

This website does kick ***.

seems like you werent storm material...move along to your new toy and admit you couldnt handle a big boy device. that is all...kthxbai

[Fureio]

edit: this is a reply to a post that was deleted. sorry if it doesnt make sense.


ok not sure how its user error on anything you state. How is a 5 minute reboot a user error? LOL. please Droid boots in less than a minute.

how is having to do a battery pull a user error? Wait, are you referring to wanting to have more than ten aftermarket apps on a phone installed error? Please explain how memory leaks are user error. More like developer error. Something I hold BB responsible for since they approved the app and put it on the app store.

Tethering is in fact illegal if you dont pay the extra 30 bucks a month. just search the forums on all the users complaining that they used more than the 5gb limit cap imposed on vzw and they suffered sever usage penalties. Im an owner of tetherberry. This is why i call it illegal, you arent supposed to tether on vzw unless you opt into their tether plan.

surepress and autocorrect pairing is horrid under the vanilla theme. I used it often when i had to text one handed, like i said autocorrect made me use the backspace button more times than i cared for forcing me to go qwerty since surepress just wasnt getting it in a timely manner.

So... Here is what i have gathered from your reply of obnoxious user error replies with no explanations:

You need to have a phd in advanced bb usage to tweak and get the bb to work as it should out of the box. Something i dont mind doing being a gadget junkie. What about the average user who could care less about os shrinkage and hours of endless reading on workaround fixes and tweaks to get your phone working as it should out of the box?

sure there are tons of paid apps on the android market. Seeing as to how we are talking about ten thousand apps over the few hundred on the bb app store, i'll stick to the ones i used to use on my storm

beyond 160 paid app. Currently broken for 5.0. Developer says he cant fix his broken app until bb fixes a bug in their sdk. LOL lost funds
android equivilant : handcent. Free and got my 160 text character limit busted for free

Vlingo. newest version wants another $10 on top of the $17 i paid for less than 6 months ago just go use VLingo in all apps on bb
The droid speech to text is built in so i can search voice dial and am currently looking at which app to choose for speech to text on sms. all free

iMusic free ringtones. period. its the piratebay.org for mp3 for the android format. just a search engine on where to find free mp3s and download it.

Quicklaunch $5 built into the droid.

tetherberry $50 if you get caught by vzw, you suffer penalties. There were a slew of FREE tethering apps on the android market that were currently pulled due to TMobile complaints. Still, there was a tethering option available for free until recently. There still are illegal tethering options but that requires root access (jailbreaking?) your droid
Fart apps? LOL ill assume you meant the literal fart prank apps available and yes there are paid versions but i also found equivilant free versions. That also reminds me that there is a ridiculous light saber app called schwartz, the bb version requires you buy it. lol seriously?

In fairness yahoo messenger is not a core app in the droid and the 3rd party version wasnt one i was a fan of. BBM is replaced with google talk. Also what was neat was that i synched my entire blackberry contacts with facebook and once i downloaded the core app to my droid all my numbers magically appeared on my droid. That was a awesome surprise.

Lets see some explanations instead of a lot of pompous red text.

[Fureio]

Originally Posted by howarmat

seems like you werent storm material...move along to your new toy and admit you couldnt handle a big boy device. that is all...kthxbai

hahaha really? storm material? lmao.... try a droid guy, you will be eating your words. How about i wasnt material for a device that was sold for a ridiculous price and i never got the value out of it.

Storm material? lmao... please. as i said in a previous post.... if you are going to charge someone $200 attached to a 2 year contract that demands a $30 data plan.. This device better be all the bang for the buck.

Why should the common user have to peruse forums hours on end to get their product to work as it should out of the box? Not to mention having to deal with trolls as well as forum fanatics bashing for posting a repeat question in a thread.

That sounds a lot like a repeat device problem that isnt being addressed.

[ClintAustin]

I have to agree. That whole "big boy device" comment really just wreaks of immaturity and fanboyism. The storm is decent, but Fureio is right you shouldn't have to install leaked beta OS's and pull your battery every day just to get your phone to work right. And yeah 2-3 minute reboots are crazy long. Without sounding as... passionate... about it, I really have to agree with most of his points about this phone. I'm not saying all BB's, although they all do share some of the same limitations from a consumer standpoint, but if it's a business phone and not needing lots of apps then ok. But the big point is the Storm was supposed to be a consumer marketed device and RIM simply didn't do enough on top of their business template to make it very good. I've used iPhone, Storm, and played around with my girlfriend's Droid, and the iPhone and Droid whoop the Storms **** in just about every phone specific category from a consumer point of view. And saying that either of those devices is just a "toy" is merely a self justification of your own phone's shortcomings. Grow up.

[l.a.rossmann]

Originally Posted by howarmat

seems like you werent storm material...move along to your new toy and admit you couldnt handle a big boy device. that is all...kthxbai

Mandatory battery pulls before OS 5 isn't a user error. It got so slow sometimes with nothing but google maps installed it'd become painful and impossible to use it in a fast paced business environment.

Why does this phone have a predisposition to user errors greater than all the others?

[Gnomad]

Originally Posted by Fureio

edit:

Tethering is in fact illegal if you dont pay the extra 30 bucks a month. just search the forums on all the users complaining that they used more than the 5gb limit cap imposed on vzw and they suffered sever usage penalties. Im an owner of tetherberry. This is why i call it illegal, you arent supposed to tether on vzw unless you opt into their tether plan.

tetherberry $50 if you get caught by vzw, you suffer penalties. There were a slew of FREE tethering apps on the android market that were currently pulled due to TMobile complaints. Still, there was a tethering option available for free until recently. There still are illegal tethering options but that requires root access (jailbreaking?) your droid

Not trying to flame on anything else in your post, no ones opinion about any phone choice means **** to me. But what does this have to do with a Blackberry Storm or any other Blackberry? Tethering is illegal on any phone, even the Droid, if you don't pay for the data plan that allows tethering. Just because the app is paid or free it will still end up the same, when Verizon or any carrier finds your data usage exceeding their view of normal for a smartphone you will end up with a very large bill from them.

[SilvioBenussi]

Originally Posted by Fureio

That got retarded.

Enough said.....

/Thread

[jlsparks]

So you didn't like your Storm. We get it. Was is worth the hour it took you to type your wall of text to soothe your wounded psyche? Stated another way, why'd you create this thread at all? Do you think any of us actually care *what* phone you use, or *what* phone you don't use? Here's a hint: I don't. I can't speak for everyone else though.

In any event have a GREAT TIME with your Droid.

PS: People will take you more seriously if you don't use "lol" in place of punctuation at the end of sentences. My helpful hint of the day, just for you.

[SilvioBenussi]

Originally Posted by l.a.rossmann

Mandatory battery pulls before OS 5 isn't a user error. It got so slow sometimes with nothing but google maps installed it'd become painful and impossible to use it in a fast paced business environment.

Why does this phone have a predisposition to user errors greater than all the others?

In reality, it doesn't.

These members seem to think OS installs (whether factory or self shrunk/ modified) should install with zero problems every time simply because they had a much more pleasurable experience with their BB Storm...thinking that since all of the hardware is the same (myth) that every BB Storm is the same...

This is obvious to those who possess common sense (which they do not)
Simple, really.

[twester65]

Originally Posted by SilvioBenussi

Enough said.....

/Thread

Birds of a feather flock together.

[moneymatt]

Originally Posted by howarmat

seems like you werent storm material...move along to your new toy and admit you couldnt handle a big boy device. that is all...kthxbai

AAaHAHA.. now that was funny.

Storm = "Big Boy Device" ..

the blackberry comeback of the century!!...


$Matt