No Way Verizon Makes .141 Official

**markdental** · 04-30-2009, 07:22 AM

There is no way that Verizon is going to make .141 official.

It still contains the same Html bugs that .132 has.

AND

It added a new really GREAT lock/unlock bug that completely destroys the ability of the phone to stay locked. That alone will not let it out into the public.

Let the wait continue. If nothing else, this increases our chance of seeing a 5.0 official but delays the release of an official OS indefinitely.

Apparently a build has "been certified and is ready to go", but it can't be .141

Only CX and Radio know where the 5.0 builds that VZ are testing stand, so hopefully RIM is working hard to get VZW some great 5.0 builds so we can get a great 5.0 official and be done with this mess.

**TheComebackKidd** · 04-30-2009, 07:24 AM

The unlock bug is in .132 as well........

**46alpha** · 04-30-2009, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by TheComebackKidd

The unlock bug is in .132 as well........

I'm running .132 & no unlock bug. Works fine. I thought this was a .141 issue only?

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**markdental** · 04-30-2009, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by TheComebackKidd

The unlock bug is in .132 as well........

No it's not.

Lock your phone in .132, then hit any of your bottom 4 buttons. The phone stays locked.

Do the same in .141, Voila, unlocked phone!!!

**pmas** · 04-30-2009, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by TheComebackKidd

The unlock bug is in .132 as well........

No it's not. 132 unlock functions correctly

**onstageone** · 04-30-2009, 07:33 AM

...maybe it's actually not a bug?

**radioguinea** · 04-30-2009, 07:36 AM

VZ "might" and I stress "MIGHT" be holding out for 5.0. I will know more soon.

**JasonM.** · 04-30-2009, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by onstageone

...maybe it's actually not a bug?

If this was purposefully done I can't understand why. I highly doubt this is VZW's MR2 either, it's been hourglassing for me like .103 used to.

**JordanofMadden** · 04-30-2009, 07:38 AM

my 132 locks fine.

**JordanofMadden** · 04-30-2009, 07:38 AM

Im a little iff to go to .141 it seem like it wont be as good as .132

**blaisedinsd** · 04-30-2009, 07:39 AM

Its a bug. But oh boy does It unlocks super fast.

In .132 and some others pressing and holding the END key will unlock the phone.

.141 unlocks on any tiny tap of any of the four physical keys

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**olta777** · 04-30-2009, 07:40 AM

I think the slotted official is between .122 and .132. They have the least of bugs. I do like the speed of .141

I do agree with you Mark. For us those may be tolerable but they are pretty big bugs. I say nay .141 as official. I want 5.0 to be official

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**markdental** · 04-30-2009, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by radioguinea

VZ "might" and I stress "MIGHT" be holding out for 5.0. I will know more soon.

WOW, this could the best news EVER!!!!

When could you hear more Radio?

**onstageone** · 04-30-2009, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by JasonM.

If this was purposefully done I can't understand why. I highly doubt this is VZW's MR2 either, it's been hourglassing for me like .103 used to.

Well, people also couldn't understand why they took away being able to unlock the phone or wake the phone up to by clicking the screen...they liked it and also thought it was a bug, something wasn't right...until they realized it was done to avoid accidentally unlocking in your pocket and **** dialing the first few contacts in your addy book.

**radioguinea** · 04-30-2009, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by markdental

WOW, this could the best news EVER!!!!

When could you hear more Radio?

When I know, you will know

Thats all for now.

**onstageone** · 04-30-2009, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by blaisedinsd

Its a bug. But oh boy does It unlocks super fast.

In .132 and some others pressing and holding the END key will unlock the phone.

.141 unlocks on any tiny tap of any of the four physical keys

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So you've read the end report and this is noted as a bug?

**mbvdlza** · 04-30-2009, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by onstageone

...maybe it's actually not a bug?

Boring. Where would the fun be in that

**JasonM.** · 04-30-2009, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by onstageone

...until they realized it was done to avoid accidentally unlocking in your pocket and **** dialing the first few contacts in your addy book.

So now we're in the same boat... Lock your phone, put it in your pocket and hit send a couple times and you call either the last person on your call log or whoever your on in your address book. It's dumb.

**onstageone** · 04-30-2009, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by mbvdlza

Boring. Where would the fun be in that

LOL

Well, clearly the little green "go" arrow that showed up awhile back was a bug...as was the ability to go full qwerty in portrait mode...I don't like that at all, must be a bug they need to fix.

**onstageone** · 04-30-2009, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by JasonM.

So now we're in the same boat... Lock your phone, put it in your pocket and hit send a couple times and you call either the last person on your call log or whoever your on in your address book. It's dumb.

Honestly hasn't happened yet...also, screen click is obviously more sensitive to this than one of the 4 hard buttons. Unless you're jamming the phone into a pocket in your jeans it shouldn't be an issue

**markdental** · 04-30-2009, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by onstageone

Well, people also couldn't understand why they took away being able to unlock the phone or wake the phone up to by clicking the screen...they liked it and also thought it was a bug, something wasn't right...until they realized it was done to avoid accidentally unlocking in your pocket and **** dialing the first few contacts in your addy book.

That change actually made sense.

This is a bug. There is no debate.

Lock means lock until you CHOOSE to use it.

You can inadvertently unlock the phone by accidentally pressing any of the 4 physical buttons, it is impossible to inadvertently unlock the phone using the Unlock button like it was in .132

So back to the real discussion.

I am excited at the potential prospect of seeing a 5.0 official release in the relatively near future knowing that .141 is not good enough to be official and development of 4.7 has stopped.

**JasonM.** · 04-30-2009, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by onstageone

Honestly hasn't happened yet...also, screen click is obviously more sensitive to this than one of the 4 hard buttons. Unless you're jamming the phone into a pocket in your jeans it shouldn't be an issue

Screen click doesn't even do anything while it's in your pocket... put a piece of clothing over your finger and try to click your screen. It's capacitive touch. All your pocket dials are belong to green send key!

**cadsystems** · 04-30-2009, 07:54 AM

I'm wondering what this unlocking bug is all about. I could be wrong but I had the original OS, .109, .113 then .132 as I remember the only way to unlock and lock the phone was by hitting the un/lock button.

None of my other buttons unlock the device. I'm still on .132

**olta777** · 04-30-2009, 07:56 AM

And per our good sources here on CB, vzw is testing 5.0. I am excited as well.

Originally Posted by markdental

That change actually made sense.

This is a bug. There is no debate.

Lock means lock until you CHOOSE to use it.

You can inadvertently unlock the phone by accidentally pressing any of the 4 physical buttons, it is impossible to inadvertently unlock the phone using the Unlock button like it was in .132

So back to the real discussion.

I am excited at the potential prospect of seeing a 5.0 official release in the relatively near future knowing that .141 is not good enough to be official and development of 4.7 has stopped.

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**onstageone** · 04-30-2009, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by markdental

That change actually made sense.

This is a bug. There is no debate.

Lock means lock until you CHOOSE to use it.

You can inadvertently unlock the phone by accidentally pressing any of the 4 physical buttons, it is impossible to inadvertently unlock the phone using the Unlock button like it was in .132

So back to the real discussion.

I am excited at the potential prospect of seeing a 5.0 official release in the relatively near future knowing that .141 is not good enough to be official and development of 4.7 has stopped.

The real discussion? Ummm, the OP mentions the lock / unlock as being a NG for this being released....so, pretty much us ******** back and forth is part of the real discussion.

So, back to that...yeah, LOCK means until you choose to use it....except when it's in your pocket and you can also ACCIDENTALLY not by choice hit the LOCK / UNLOCK button....which has happened to me far more with .132 and lower than it has in the day+ I have had .141 with the 4 buttons on the bottom being able to unlock it...

meh....I'm over it