To CLARIFY on .148 battery leak.

[serenityseeker]

The general battery conservation strategies are certainly appreciated for those that didnt know about them but the issue is people who have not changed ANY apps or settings, only change being the .148 OS, and suddenly having poor battery life. Obviously a prob somehow with the OS as NOTHING else has changed for those of us with this problem. If there was not a rofound app drain pre .148, there shouldnt be now. A less than optimal release it seems.
I even did a wipe and re installed. It seems that an official release should support the apps that were already loaded without such a profound failure.

[gtstang462002]

You see you are forgetting one critical line here. Something has changed other than the OS. Even if the settings are staying the same human nature is to play with the new toy. Yes the phone may not be new but the OS is, so people will play with it more times throughout the day. It is that monster screen that kills the battery every time it lights up. So if you take the phone out and play with it 25% more than you previously did the battery is going to die 25% faster in theory.

[serenityseeker]

Actually I'm not forgetting that, it doesnt apply to me and many others. My usage has been consistent, even less than usual. NO CHANGES except the os, no app changes, no setting changes, no usage changes.

[howarmat]

Also are you certain you didnt miss a setting on an app? many people on here have 20 apps or whatever and you have to reset most all of those settings. I am sure many people are missing a GPS setting here and there causing more drain than before too

[serenityseeker]

utterly sure.
i am not sure about the relctance of people to recognize that this is a problem for a lot of people with this update. I gues because it is not a prob for everyone some people just dont want to give it creedence. would be nice to see a solution.

[gtstang462002]

Originally Posted by serenityseeker

Actually I'm not forgetting that, it doesnt apply to me and many others. My usage has been consistent, even less than usual. NO CHANGES except the os, no app changes, no setting changes, no usage changes.

Then wipe your phone and reload the programs manually. You have a corrupt setting in your backup files somewhere. I know it sounds tedious but that is the only way that you are going to fix your problem. It has nothing to do with the OS itself. If you have a spare battery to try and swap out to see if the battery is bad(not likely) give that a shot first. I am getting the same 14-16 hours of heavy use out of mine that I was getting from day one. The only time my battery gets truly sucked dry is when I am a)in a bad coverage area or b)streaming radio for hours on end.

[serenityseeker]

Originally Posted by gtstang462002

Then wipe your phone and reload the programs manually. You have a corrupt setting in your backup files somewhere. I know it sounds tedious but that is the only way that you are going to fix your problem. It has nothing to do with the OS itself. If you have a spare battery to try and swap out to see if the battery is bad(not likely) give that a shot first. I am getting the same 14-16 hours of heavy use out of mine that I was getting from day one. The only time my battery gets truly sucked dry is when I am a)in a bad coverage area or b)streaming radio for hours on end.

I did the obvious and checked another battery. I did a wipe and left off almost all apps.
Just what is corrupt and how do I get around it?

[gtstang462002]

Originally Posted by serenityseeker

I did the obvious and checked another battery. I did a wipe and left off almost all apps.
Just what is corrupt and how do I get around it?

Did you restore your contacts via a backup?

[serenityseeker]

what other way is there?

and why shouldnt the nml way of restoring work?

[howarmat]

Originally Posted by gtstang462002

Then wipe your phone and reload the programs manually. You have a corrupt setting in your backup files somewhere. I know it sounds tedious but that is the only way that you are going to fix your problem. It has nothing to do with the OS itself. If you have a spare battery to try and swap out to see if the battery is bad(not likely) give that a shot first. I am getting the same 14-16 hours of heavy use out of mine that I was getting from day one. The only time my battery gets truly sucked dry is when I am a)in a bad coverage area or b)streaming radio for hours on end.

I agree, my battery life hasnt change more than 1 hour give or take with any OS upgrade. Dont load any apps except for maybe meterberry or something to measure the battery levels. Then start loading apps back on a couple at a time.

One last thing about the apps, there is always a chance for bad code. Say in a twtter app or something that many people have and thus many people are having battery problems. That app just doesnt play well with 148. Not really RIMs fault with the OS. They cant test and be responsible for all apps. We are seeing that with 151 that many themes dont work with that OS.

[gtstang462002]

Originally Posted by serenityseeker

what other way is there?

and why shouldnt the nml way of restoring work?

It is something in the restore that is causing your issue I would be willing to bet. If you use outlook re sync your contacts back into your phone that way in order to isolate the corrupt data. Every time you do a backup with the previous file you have just reloaded all of your settings back into the phone. Obviously it is one of those settings that is causing conflict. Just outa curiosity how many battery pulls are you doing a day?

[serenityseeker]

Originally Posted by howarmat

I agree, my battery life hasnt change more than 1 hour give or take with any OS upgrade. Dont load any apps except for maybe meterberry or something to measure the battery levels. Then start loading apps back on a couple at a time.

One last thing about the apps, there is always a chance for bad code. Say in a twtter app or something that many people have and thus many people are having battery problems. That app just doesnt play well with 148. Not really RIMs fault with the OS. They cant test and be responsible for all apps. We are seeing that with 151 that many themes dont work with that OS.

As best I can tell aI have done all of this, and still have the problem. I'm really glad u guys have great battery life but it just aint the case for a large group of us. It just doesnt seem that there should be so many issues involved in routine maintainance and upgrades.

[gtstang462002]

Originally Posted by howarmat

I agree, my battery life hasnt change more than 1 hour give or take with any OS upgrade. Dont load any apps except for maybe meterberry or something to measure the battery levels. Then start loading apps back on a couple at a time.

One last thing about the apps, there is always a chance for bad code. Say in a twtter app or something that many people have and thus many people are having battery problems. That app just doesnt play well with 148. Not really RIMs fault with the OS. They cant test and be responsible for all apps. We are seeing that with 151 that many themes dont work with that OS.

Good point, I have seen themes suck battery life just as well as they can suck memory. I refuse to partake in any of the social networking sites and make my private life public. I don't want to have to answer for my 900 facebook "friends" when I am running for president. I say that to say this. I think a lot of the social networking programs are constantly connecting and pulling data rather than implementing RIM's push API's. That is itself will suck you dry too.

[gtstang462002]

Originally Posted by serenityseeker

I'm really glad u guys have great battery life but it just aint the case for a large group of us.

Large group? This is only the second or third thread that I have seen on this issue. There are 1.5 million storms on verizon's BIS system. Don't think that this really fits in the large group category.

[serenityseeker]

Originally Posted by gtstang462002

It is something in the restore that is causing your issue I would be willing to bet. If you use outlook re sync your contacts back into your phone that way in order to isolate the corrupt data. Every time you do a backup with the previous file you have just reloaded all of your settings back into the phone. Obviously it is one of those settings that is causing conflict. Just outa curiosity how many battery pulls are you doing a day?

Why contacts specifically? I dont use outlook so not sure how to alternatively do it.
I typically pull the battery once a day unless a lock up occurs or have installed and/or deleted apps, os etc.
This is a situation where I could get about 18-24 hrs from a battery to 4-6 hrs now.