BB Bold 9930 vs. iPhone 5

[Eli8330]

Now I know there's going to be a lot of controversy in this thread, just because of course the infamous iPhone 5 is being mentioned. But in all, what device are most of you going to go with? I am coming from 2 old BB's (8830 and an 8530) and now I've been using an HTC Evo for the past 16 months. Honestly, I am ready to step away from Android, but where should my next step be? Bold 9930 seems like a really nice handset, I love the keyboard, but i must wait for the iphone 5 just to see it's prices, plans, etc. What are you guys/gals doing and what do you think about these 2 handsets?

[Deathcommand]

if i had the choice of a 9930 and 2 iphone 5s, i might pick the 2 iphones so i could sell them.

after th iphone hype dies down, its still just a phone that everyone has.

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[world traveler and former ceo]

Bold 9900 hands down!

[Eli8330]

but why?! I must ask... I am trying to get a solid decision down before the iphone 5 is released, but then again i wont really know a lot about it until it is released!

[Deathcommand]

9930 will get more attention than an iPhone.

plus that heavenly keyboard.

[papped]

If you want a full touchscreen you'd get the iphone.
If you want a keyboard you'd get the Bold.

There isn't a lot of grey area between the two devices...

[JeffMorse]

I've been on Android for a couple of years now and have been lusting after the 9930 since it was announced. On launch day I happily went to my Sprint store and plunked down $500 bucks to get my grubby mitts on one. After almost 2 weeks with it I find myself seriously debating returning it.

The keyboard is fantastic. No question at all it's the best way to type.

But, that's pretty much all I find I like about it. Email, which I always assumed was rock solid - isn't. The Berry only polls for email ever 15 minutes. My Evo got mail at the same moment it hit my work server. The Berry is kind enough to send me the occasional email from 5 years ago as if it were new. My Evo was never that considerate. I have a list of other minor issues, but basically everything but typing is just easier on the Evo.

Anywho, now I guess I need to consider waiting til the iPhone comes out before deciding to jump ship or not.

[Dre5025]

Originally Posted by JeffMorse

I've been on Android for a couple of years now and have been lusting after the 9930 since it was announced. On launch day I happily went to my Sprint store and plunked down $500 bucks to get my grubby mitts on one. After almost 2 weeks with it I find myself seriously debating returning it.

The keyboard is fantastic. No question at all it's the best way to type.

But, that's pretty much all I find I like about it. Email, which I always assumed was rock solid - isn't. The Berry only polls for email ever 15 minutes. My Evo got mail at the same moment it hit my work server. The Berry is kind enough to send me the occasional email from 5 years ago as if it were new. My Evo was never that considerate. I have a list of other minor issues, but basically everything but typing is just easier on the Evo.

Anywho, now I guess I need to consider waiting til the iPhone comes out before deciding to jump ship or not.

Sounds like BS to me, either that or you just have really bad luck with a really poor device.

[JeffMorse]

Why would I make that up? I continue to get email from years ago. Also, if you're on BIS from what I read your berry polls for email every 15 minutes. If it finds email it will check again 2 minutes later.

[semicoln]

Is this true? Only every 15 mins on BIS? I've been considering plunking down the $500 off contract price too but not if it doesn't even push email.

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[Jandrsn36]

Originally Posted by JeffMorse

Why would I make that up? I continue to get email from years ago. Also, if you're on BIS from what I read your berry polls for email every 15 minutes. If it finds email it will check again 2 minutes later.

Im gonna have to disagree with that....I can be sitting at my laptop with my Berry next to me and if I get Yahoo or Gmail, it actually comes through the Berry BEFORE, even though its only a second or two sooner, it shows up on my laptop....just sayin

Regardless, iphone just never did it for me...give me my email and keyboard anyday.

[JeffMorse]

The info online if you search 'how often does blackberry check email?' by google bears out what I see on my Bold. Here is a detailed excerpt...

How Does Email Work on a BlackBerry? | eHow.com

... While using the device, you may have noticed that email doesn't hit your web service and BlackBerry at the same time. This is because the BlackBerry doesn't automatically check for new messages by logging into your email accounts like some of the other PDA devices and programs.

After you set up new email addresses on your BlackBerry (you are allowed up to 10, in addition to a Blackberry email account), servers that belong to RIM (Research in Motion) store the login details for each account. The RIM's servers are the ones that log into your accounts and check for new messages. They do this using a static IP connection. The BlackBerry doesn't stay connected to the email account on a continuous basis. This is why there seems to be a delay in receiving new email messages. By default, the BlackBerry Internet Servers (BIS) check for new messages every 15 minutes and download them to the device.
Before the messages are sent to the device, they are compressed to a smaller file. For really big messages, only the first 2kb of data is sent to the device. These larger files will need to be viewed from your email client on the computer. If new messages are found, the BIS will start checking for new messages every 3 minutes. The delay goes back to 15 minutes as soon as no new messages come through during the 3-minute check.

Email accounts with Gmail and Yahoo servers are not held to the 15-minute-interval rule. New messages from these types of accounts are sent instantly to the device. The BIS remains in continuous contact with these servers.
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I use BIS to connect to my work server as I can't join the exchange server via BES. Jandrsn, you mention Yahoo and Gmail. You'll see if you read above those two don't have the same issue.

I'm still getting 5 year old email, which makes no sense to me at all.

[Slingbox]

Originally Posted by JeffMorse

The info online if you search 'how often does blackberry check email?' by google bears out what I see on my Bold. Here is a detailed excerpt...

How Does Email Work on a BlackBerry? | eHow.com

... While using the device, you may have noticed that email doesn't hit your web service and BlackBerry at the same time. This is because the BlackBerry doesn't automatically check for new messages by logging into your email accounts like some of the other PDA devices and programs.

After you set up new email addresses on your BlackBerry (you are allowed up to 10, in addition to a Blackberry email account), servers that belong to RIM (Research in Motion) store the login details for each account. The RIM's servers are the ones that log into your accounts and check for new messages. They do this using a static IP connection. The BlackBerry doesn't stay connected to the email account on a continuous basis. This is why there seems to be a delay in receiving new email messages. By default, the BlackBerry Internet Servers (BIS) check for new messages every 15 minutes and download them to the device.
Before the messages are sent to the device, they are compressed to a smaller file. For really big messages, only the first 2kb of data is sent to the device. These larger files will need to be viewed from your email client on the computer. If new messages are found, the BIS will start checking for new messages every 3 minutes. The delay goes back to 15 minutes as soon as no new messages come through during the 3-minute check.

Email accounts with Gmail and Yahoo servers are not held to the 15-minute-interval rule. New messages from these types of accounts are sent instantly to the device. The BIS remains in continuous contact with these servers.
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I use BIS to connect to my work server as I can't join the exchange server via BES. Jandrsn, you mention Yahoo and Gmail. You'll see if you read above those two don't have the same issue.

I'm still getting 5 year old email, which makes no sense to me at all.

Wow I never knew this thanks for info.
I'm sure many BB users are a little put off by this....I know I would if still using such hardware.

[sprocket2107]

I will be leaving Android soon as well. I have been rocking the Epic since launch day and it has been wonderful, only because I have rooted it. I want a device that will perform like it should without having to make such drastic changes such as rooting. I have never heard of anyone having to jailbreak an iPhone to bump it's performance nor a BlackBerry(I know you can't root or anything like that only load up different OS leaks). I am extremely interested in the iPhone mainly because of the fact that it just works and I also have a MacBook Pro 17" and a 32GB iPad. Syncing with an iPhone I feel would be much simpler. I have heard of people with BlackBerry's having trouble with the Desktop Manager for Mac's. I do text but not as often as most people. Probably 50-100 times a day. So a physical keyboard or full touch do not bother me. I just want to know which would be better performance wise and all that jazz. Sorry for starting any fights in advance. I do not mean harm, I only want to learn and know the major pro's and con's. Thank you

[yoga.flame]

I can throw in my 2 cents based on this: apps vs. communication.

Apps: iPhone is, and has been, winning this for years; which is why everyone and their mom uses it. It's fun to play Words with Friends and use use Instagram with friends/family/anyone really. Truthfully, if these two apps were available for Blackberry, I would keep my BB without hesitation because I really like the keyboard. But the fact is, I like having pointless fun with people and developers have bailed on RIM and their difficulties (iPhone is one phone a year with one screen resolution per year. RIM/Android/Windows leave devs with a headache). Sorry RIM, I don't need a keyboard or email for fun.

iPhone wins hands down for that. Actually, iPhone wins hands down for apps in general. Anyone who has used both iPhone and BB would agree. iPhone's apps are more polished than average. Regardless, BB's apps look bad and run clunky compared to iPhone's. And that's straight up, RIM.

Blackerry wins because, well, it's a phone and a better phone the iPhone. Not only that, but it has the best communication integration ever. Ever. If you use your phone like a phone then the iPhone sucks... regardless of your preference of physical/touch keyboard. The notification blows; like it will seriously suck your gear it sucks so bad. So bad so, that I've used my upgrade for an iPhone 4 and use my 9000 (and the 2x's daily battery pull) instead of my iP4... the constant interruptions will kill you if you get more than 6 messages a week.

Them's my thoughts.