first article is posted

Mike Overbo · Thread Author #1 10-30-2007, 03:38 PM

My first looks are up. Some things really impress me so far. Some things really don't.

here it is.

And it goes without saying that this is an official Smartphone Round Robin thread.

Kevin Michaluk · #2 10-30-2007, 04:04 PM

Two more days of BlackBerry use? We'll make a CrackBerry addict out of you yet!

Mike Overbo · Thread Author #3 10-30-2007, 04:19 PM

I do feel like I'm already running out of time with it. There's a bunch more stuff that I'm looking to explore.

I didn't get a chance to talk about the availability of the heavy-hitting J2ME apps yet -- that they exist is a very good thing (Facebook, Yahoo! Go, GMM, Opera Mini, etc). The big-name internet companies tend to treat Palm OS development like a cemetary nowadays.

I haven't really checked out the games scene yet either, I'm curious to see how they function without a d-pad or 5-way.

I like the simplicity of the PIM apps tho -- I can tell they got a lot of love from RIM's BB developers. More on that in the Friday article.

Yudso · #4 10-30-2007, 05:34 PM

I am currently a WM 5 user thinking about switch to a Curve. Let us know which you prefer.

blundell · #5 10-30-2007, 05:58 PM

Welcome to the fold Mike, BlackBerry is the way to go.

Mike Overbo · Thread Author #6 10-30-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yudso

I am currently a WM 5 user thinking about switch to a Curve. Let us know which you prefer.

Last I used WM5, I encountered some real nasty bugs with it. They were eventually fixed, but by then I had to move on from WM5. That said, it all depends on the handset with WM, whether it's Pocket PC or Smartphone Ed. (i.e., touchscreen or not) and what you're planning on using it for.

The BlackBerry will be easier to use, but gives you a narrower field of use. Windows Mobile is probably 2nd to BlackBerry in terms of email slurpage, and I believe you can still use BB Connect.

Battery life will be better on a BB and the BB will be smaller than all but the newest and fanciest (and most expensive) of the touchscreen WM devices, but you'll probably be able to do more with WM. Multi-tasking on the WM device will be better as well. But, multi-tasking is better than no multi-tasking.

There are some very slick applications out there for WM that cover for many shortcomings in the default WM5 install, though -- a little SPB Mobile Shell goes a long way. The BB will assuredly be more 1-handed than WM, but depending on the device, WM may have a better screen. I'm not generally fond of slider form factors but the Tilt is good, for example.

If you're asking about wm5 smartphone edition, I'm probably the wrong guy to ask. Ping Dieter Bohn aka Septimus about that after he's reviewed the Curve.

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Originally Posted by blundell

Welcome to the fold Mike, BlackBerry is the way to go.

Heh. BlackBerry is a way to go. You'll get that much out of me, at least.

kasperapd · #7 10-30-2007, 07:31 PM

I almost think you should have gotten the 8320 so it would be more of a fair comparison between all the devices. I would've liked to hear your thoughts about WiFi use between all devices.... oh well... maybe next time.

gadgetluva · #8 10-30-2007, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Overbo

Last I used WM5, I encountered some real nasty bugs with it. They were eventually fixed, but by then I had to move on from WM5. That said, it all depends on the handset with WM, whether it's Pocket PC or Smartphone Ed. (i.e., touchscreen or not) and what you're planning on using it for.

The BlackBerry will be easier to use, but gives you a narrower field of use. Windows Mobile is probably 2nd to BlackBerry in terms of email slurpage, and I believe you can still use BB Connect.

Battery life will be better on a BB and the BB will be smaller than all but the newest and fanciest (and most expensive) of the touchscreen WM devices, but you'll probably be able to do more with WM. Multi-tasking on the WM device will be better as well. But, multi-tasking is better than no multi-tasking.

There are some very slick applications out there for WM that cover for many shortcomings in the default WM5 install, though -- a little SPB Mobile Shell goes a long way. The BB will assuredly be more 1-handed than WM, but depending on the device, WM may have a better screen. I'm not generally fond of slider form factors but the Tilt is good, for example.

If you're asking about wm5 smartphone edition, I'm probably the wrong guy to ask. Ping Dieter Bohn aka Septimus about that after he's reviewed the Curve.

Heh. BlackBerry is a way to go. You'll get that much out of me, at least.

Great short writeup Mike. I'm really curious about your other findings on the Curve as you're big on Multimedia as I am. I heard that BB has come a long way with multimedia and webbrowsing, but it still pales in comparison to the other smartphone OSes. SO please, write more! I'm waiting to "slurp" it all up.

Scott403540 · #9 10-30-2007, 09:21 PM

I really enjoyed the write-up and appreciate how you are coming at this. I agree with many of your comments, particularly with regard to the browser - its crap.

What I like about my Blackberry Pearl is it just works. For a long time I carried a 7290 and a Razr - couldn't imagine holding that thing up to my ear (something my Palm friends couldn't quite understand). Bought my Pearl just prior to the Curve coming out - if I can hold out long enough, the 3g Curve will be my next device.

I look forward to reading more from you and the other editors - what a great idea from the folks at Smartphone!

Mike Overbo · Thread Author #10 10-30-2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kasperapd

I almost think you should have gotten the 8320 so it would be more of a fair comparison between all the devices. I would've liked to hear your thoughts about WiFi use between all devices.... oh well... maybe next time.

I would have liked the 8320 too, but I think Dieter, myself, and Jennifer all have AT&T, and I don't think the 8320 is available unlocked yet -- still a T-Mo exclusive? I could be wrong here.

ricpac · #11 10-30-2007, 11:45 PM

BlackBerry is a/the way to go, indeed!

Bla1ze · #12 10-31-2007, 02:31 AM

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tend to treat Palm OS development like a cemetary nowadays

The palm OS is dead, it's not a wonder they treat it like a graveyard, Palm OS has been delayed so many times now it's not even funny any more and for Palm to resort to WinMobile in the meantime put the nail in the coffin for it, they basically killed their DIE HARD user base and looked towards creating a new user base with WinMobile..shame, I still have faith that Palm may rise from the dead, but lets just say I would'nt put any money into em at this point. and yes Mike, you could have had an 8320, unlocking for has been possible since launch if not slightly prior to launch...even though a T-Mob exclusive device, still would have worked for the round robin,as for your thoughts on the BB Browser, you've come into this "testing" phase at a critical point as well, especially with the Pearl 2 soon to launched which will be introducing the 4.3 OS and a newly updated browser, unfortunately, their has been no reviews on this browser as of yet.

Julescp19 · #13 10-31-2007, 08:34 AM

I agree for a smartphone the battery life holds up quite well. Especially with PUSH and all the other apps to use.

EtherealLover · #14 10-31-2007, 08:53 AM

Excellent write up! Yes the browser needs an overhaul. If you've experienced PIE, Opera and iPhone you'd know what I am talking about.

3G for me only meant that I was able to view streaming vids. When I had the HTC 8525 on WM5 and WM6 the battery life was so terrible that it really defeated the purpose of providing any type of recreational use. Plus I am an avid texter.

I suppose it all depends on what one plans on using the phone for, what one can live with or live without as well.

kasperapd · #15 10-31-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Overbo

I would have liked the 8320 too, but I think Dieter, myself, and Jennifer all have AT&T, and I don't think the 8320 is available unlocked yet -- still a T-Mo exclusive? I could be wrong here.

Of course it can be unlocked... for a small fee to your favorite unlocking service.