What's up with these forum moderators

**tommynap01** · 09-14-2012, 01:06 AM

Someone posted their displeasure about certain things on the playbook and he closed the post down which makes no sense to me at all. At no time was he disrespectful in any matter or form. He was just stating his grievances. This is what the forums are about, to post your questions and opinions. Some people may not like them but if it's done in a good manner I don't see no harm in it. These forum moderators need to lighten up. If in anyway a post is done in a harmful vulgar matter then by all means close it but if someone is just stating their opinion or ranting about a product they spent their hard earned money on then let it stay.

**JaylieG** · 09-14-2012, 01:14 AM

It wasn't locked due to the OP's opinion..it was locked based on the flaming and bashing.

**tommynap01** · 09-14-2012, 01:22 AM

Yes but due to the op's opinion they ultimately shut it down. Who cares what other people would say. It should have been left alone.

**Hawnz** · 09-14-2012, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by tommynap01

Yes but due to the op's opinion they ultimately shut it down. Who cares what other people would say. It should have been left alone.

I do agree with you. I think the moderator thought it was better for the OP. One of the Ops started a new thread, people are bashing hkm for what he thinks-

just venting a little... Redux!

**GreyGhostRos** · 09-14-2012, 02:38 AM

I think the Moderators were correct there..
Anyway the OP just wanted to vent his frustrations.. he did.. and well purpose served.. even though it is not locked.. His frustrations were vented right?
Well the opinions / replies (of the supporters of the OP AND the flamers :P ) which shall follow are always present in the forum archives so a simple Search is enough..
I'm pretty sure the the Moderators would not lock a thread if the OP had any real "questions" or "doubts" (which deserve replies)..

And as a regular visitor to the forum it does get a bit boring and frustrating to have those posts after one point of time..

But then it is my personal opinion.. So please don't flame me :P

**Angus_CB** · 09-14-2012, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by tommynap01

Someone posted their displeasure about certain things on the playbook and he closed the post down which makes no sense to me at all. At no time was he disrespectful in any matter or form. He was just stating his grievances. This is what the forums are about, to post your questions and opinions. Some people may not like them but if it's done in a good manner I don't see no harm in it. These forum moderators need to lighten up. If in anyway a post is done in a harmful vulgar matter then by all means close it but if someone is just stating their opinion or ranting about a product they spent their hard earned money on then let it stay.

It was locked and not deleted.
The OP's opinions are still there for the world to see.

It's easy to armchair moderate. The mods here do a good job and are more lenient than a lot of forums.
I moderate another forum, starting a new thread on a subject that has been locked can get you banned.

**kill_9** · 09-14-2012, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by Angus_CB

It was locked and not deleted.
The OP's opinions are still there for the world to see.

It's easy to armchair moderate. The mods here do a good job and are more lenient than a lot of forums.
I moderate another forum, starting a new thread on a subject that has been locked can get you banned.

Which makes you a prickly dicktator. USENET despite the noise-to-signal ratio at times was 100% better than these "new-fangled" web forums. Free expression and debate even if you disagree should be upheld not squelched.

**diegonei** · 09-14-2012, 07:38 AM

It's pretty simple, if a post becomes flame wars, it gets locked. Sorry for the OP (which means original post/poster, so can only be one) his thread has gone wrong, but flame wars serve no purpose.

Ranting is permitted a day we do come to Crackberry.com to share our opinions, but also keep in mind that trolls take the opportunity to mess the forums up (nor to mention trollabots - the trolls in disguise! Posing as standard members but always helping start fires).

I agree some times thread didn't necessarily need to lockhammer, but mods are always right to put flames off.

**trsbbs** · 09-14-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by tommynap01

Someone posted their displeasure about certain things on the playbook and he closed the post down which makes no sense to me at all. At no time was he disrespectful in any matter or form. He was just stating his grievances. This is what the forums are about, to post your questions and opinions. Some people may not like them but if it's done in a good manner I don't see no harm in it. These forum moderators need to lighten up. If in anyway a post is done in a harmful vulgar matter then by all means close it but if someone is just stating their opinion or ranting about a product they spent their hard earned money on then let it stay.

I agree. Certain MODs seem to have an issue with this. While other do not. Especially weekend MOD. You do not see them post anything then they swoop through closing threads a d issuing warnings.

Its not consistent nor fair.

Seems odd when a certain MOD is the only one issuing warnings and locking threads. sSingling out particular users.
Some are very fair and even handed. In fact most are.

Tim

Sent from my BlackBerry 9850

**trsbbs** · 09-14-2012, 08:22 AM

Seems CB should change its moto of "for BlackBerry users and abusers"

They sure don't follow through equally on their own moto!

Tim

Sent from my BlackBerry 9850

**BoloMKXXVIII** · 09-14-2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Angus_CB

It was locked and not deleted.
The OP's opinions are still there for the world to see.

It's easy to armchair moderate. The mods here do a good job and are more lenient than a lot of forums.
I moderate another forum, starting a new thread on a subject that has been locked can get you banned.

I too am a moderator on another forum. People need to realize that Moderators are human. They use their best judgement and sometimes make mistakes. In this case I think the moderator was right. Moderators are (generally) not paid. They donate their time in order to help out the community. If a moderator is found to be abusing their power the Admins will strip them of their power and ban them. Please give them the benefit of the doubt.

**hpjrt** · 09-14-2012, 09:26 AM

As a member, I have the utmost respect for the Moderators. Theirs is not an easy job ... and they probably don't get paid to do it.

They are human and I wouldn't be surprised to discover that sometimes they just get fed up with a given member or a given topic. Sometimes it could just be "one of those days" when patience is running thin.

I think the Mods in general do an amazing job.

**Rickroller** · 09-14-2012, 09:31 AM

Don't most "disgruntled" threads about the Playbook get locked? It seems anytime someone voices displeasure about the beloved PB, the fanbois gather round and beat the "troll" down.

Kind of like cult's and how they react when someone begins to question what's in the Kool-Aid

**hpjrt** · 09-14-2012, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Rickroller

Don't most "disgruntled" threads about the Playbook get locked? It seems anytime someone voices displeasure about the beloved PB, the fanbois gather round and beat the "troll" down.

Kind of like cult's and how they react when someone begins to question what's in the Kool-Aid

I don't think that's accurate. I could be wrong on that. It wouldn't be the first time. I can recall a lot of playbook threads that dealt with complaints.

I would suspect that threads would be locked based upon the nature of the original post or the reaction by other members.

**esk369** · 09-14-2012, 10:38 AM

Gestapo cencorship.
Freedom of expression.
Absolute power absolutely corrupts

**Chaddface** · 09-14-2012, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Rickroller

Don't most "disgruntled" threads about the Playbook get locked? It seems anytime someone voices displeasure about the beloved PB, the fanbois gather round and beat the "troll" down.

Kind of like cult's and how they react when someone begins to question what's in the Kool-Aid

I have seen plenty of "praise" threads got locked as well. It goes both ways. It's the back and forth that escalates to insults and name calling that gets the thread locked.

**theegoldenone** · 09-14-2012, 11:04 AM

N b4 lock :d

**Angus_CB** · 09-14-2012, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by BoloMKXXVIII

I too am a moderator on another forum. People need to realize that Moderators are human. They use their best judgement and sometimes make mistakes. In this case I think the moderator was right. Moderators are (generally) not paid. They donate their time in order to help out the community. If a moderator is found to be abusing their power the Admins will strip them of their power and ban them. Please give them the benefit of the doubt.

Moderators also don't make up rules on the fly we just follow the rules that any other user has to follow.
People like to quote the line "freedom of speech" but most forums are privately owned, meaning your constitutional right to "freedom of expression" isn't a factor.
The forum Admin. get to choose what is allowed to be said and who is allowed to say it just like you get to choose who enters your home.

Threads aren't always locked because of flaming or what has been said. It is common to lock redundant threads.

**Chrysalis1156** · 09-14-2012, 11:42 AM

I've been around here since 2009 and I think the mods do a great job. It's a task I wouldn't want for sure. For the most part, if you present your thoughts in an appropriate and respectful manner, they're allowed to stand. Problems arise when you rant or call names. I believe in freedom of speech but some posts (not this one specifically) are obviously designed to start a flame war. I can imagine it must be difficult to determine intent sometimes. I welcome constructive criticism and have felt the need to rant myself at times. I think it gets down to how it's presented.

**tommynap01** · 09-14-2012, 11:55 AM

i still think they need better judgement on certain posts..This is what forums are about- to expressions one's opinion in a good mannered way. thats all

**Bla1ze** · 09-14-2012, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Angus_CB

Moderators also don't make up rules on the fly we just follow the rules that any other user has to follow.
People like to quote the line "freedom of speech" but most forums are privately owned, meaning your constitutional right to "freedom of expression" isn't a factor.
The forum Admin. get to choose what is allowed to be said and who is allowed to say it just like you get to choose who enters your home.

Threads aren't always locked because of flaming or what has been said. It is common to lock redundant threads.

This. Right here. ^^^

OP vented, had his say. I closed the thread. OP then created a new thread and went of to have a meaningful conversation and held no discontent about the previous thread being closed as they expected it would be, as they expected hateful comments as well.

Life goes on, get over it.

**tfp** · 09-14-2012, 12:58 PM

Wow! People are questioning Bla1ze closing a thread? Really?

**carullo** · 09-14-2012, 01:09 PM

its fairly simple if you need help.offer help offer suggestions or have something intersesting to say or share ,post it ......if you hate blackberry phones dodnt buy one if you hate playbooks dodnt buy it.................if you have to vent,,whine,moan or feel a need to troll.......go see a mental health proffesional.......

**pkcable** · 09-14-2012, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by tfp

Wow! People are questioning Bla1ze closing a thread? Really?

He's a big boy, he can take it.

Plus we've all been there. As others have said in this thread we are human, and we are unpaid volunteers. We do the best job we can with the resources we have, a big part of which is you guys and the report button.

**hootyhoo** · 09-14-2012, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by pkcable

He's a big boy, he can take it.

Plus we've all been there. As others have said in this thread we are human, and we are unpaid volunteers. We do the best job we can with the resources we have, a big part of which is you guys and the report button.

Speaking of unpaid, I was visiting some help forums that required a $15-$35 "donation" for help from an expert.

Well, I was thinking that advice from a genius should be much more valuable than advice from an "expert", so I'm thinking something in the neighborhood of $50 per post will be fine.

I'll pm you with the PayPal instructions.