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    Default fail: mobile nations logo

    Some have noted the similarity of the new mobile nations logo to Nationwide and National Geographic. To erase all doubt Kevin, you could play it safe and put a classic antennae on the generic box intended to be all inclusive. But if you, as Chief Media Officer, are really into a logo ripoff, put a cellphone image on a sphere with concentric circles wrapped in olive branches, something like the United Nations - to show that the mobile nations are unified - working in peace and harmony dedicated to feeding the insatiable appetite for apps, long battery life and rooting out terrorism in its most subtle form (i.e., trolling). C'mon MAN! Think BIGGER!!! mobile nations is not a lower case . . . BB FTW!
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    Nice! Plz kevin do this.......

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    I thought it looked pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMHberry View Post
    Some have noted the similarity of the new mobile nations logo to Nationwide...
    First thing that I thought of when I saw the new logo on Twitter.
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    I like National Geographic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisy520 View Post
    I like National Geographic.
    I do too. However, the mobile nations logo looks very similar. The only difference is the thicker line at the bottom of the rectangle and the orange, rather than yellow color.

    It comes close to copyright infringement, IMO.
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    Hey CMHberry et al,

    Thanks for the feedback. Completely disagree that it's a fail though. Give it a few days and you'll see the logo and think Mobile Nations. Not concerned about it from an infringement point - it's plenty unique from that angle (will show you it below), but will give you some background on how we got to our final design and what some of the usage intent is. Once MobileNations.com is launched with the full site design, we were planning on doing a "behind the logo design" post anyways, so will give you a forums preview of it here.

    Not sure if you guys have done any logo design work before, but if you ever have taken on the task you'll probably quickly learn that almost every logo design has been done. Very hard to make a logo that isn't somewhat similar to something else.

    We actually went through a pretty big process on ending up with the final Mobile Nations logo. Along the theme of nations and mobile, we did look at everything relating to those themes - stars, flags, olive branches, the wifi signals, crowns, etc.

    Ultimately we wanted a logo that didn't compete with our individual properties, but compliments them and can work with them as it is a network brand. We also wanted a logo that was simple, inferred mobile but didn't scream it, and also works as a banner or flag. It's very easy to clutter up a logo - which may look cool at first, but then quickly becomes old. Staying power is in simplicity (exceptions to every rule, but that's my belief). For fun I played around with adding antennas, etc. to this design per the OP's suggestion, and to me it just ruins it (looks tacky vs. simple and powerful).

    In the end, the Mobile Nations logo really only has TWO basic design elements:
    - the banner (the outter square rectangle - think coat of arms), representing nations
    - the offset transparent cut out with rounded corners in the center, representing mobile

    You'll notice the logo will never be used on a solid white background. The design intent is that there is something always showing through the "display" of the logo. So even above when showing it on a white background, we "put" something in it. In the top bar and footer, the background shows through. You'll even see other usage cases in time where we put very photographic elements on the display (part of a device photo for a review, etc.). We also have design uses where we put the logos of the other sites onto the display. See below.

    I should also note that we thought about rounding the outer edges of the orange rectangle, which would arguably make the shape look even more "mobile", but the issue with that look is that it loses the tie to "nations" (the banner aspect of the design is gone) and that when re-sized small, it starts to look sloppy.

    If you want to see some of the designs along the way, check out the attachments. We have a bunch more than this I could dig up, but this gives you some insight into it. Looking at mn-beta-3.jpg is the revision before we get into our final design phase. We really liked the simplicity of a basic shape and how we could work within it to layer on other simple cut-out elements. It still wasn't right yet as those versions felt a bit "heavy". We tried a lot of colors along the way too (but I love ORANGE so that kind of dominated and won for color choice).

    After mn-beta3.jpg, that's ultimately when we had our A HA moment and cut out the mobile shape from the solid orange banner. We balanced the proportions of the shape with the font, tried a few iterations around that, and ultimately fell in love with what we have.

    Is it similar to some other logos out there, National Geographic and Nationwide being referenced? Arguably yes, but it's also very distinct. Distinct colors, distinct proportions and we have distinct usage cases. National Geographic has a picture frame representing photos. Nationwide is a window representing broken glass for insurance. Mobile Nations has a silhouette of a mobile device, representing Mobile. Different industries, plenty unique. See below:



    The fact some of you think it's like National Geo or Nationwide kind of makes me really happy... sounds like we're in great company and destined for GREAT THINGS with Mobile Nations. As for the comment on THINK BIGGER... that's exactly what we did. Doing something more on the logo (antennas, etc.) would be thinking smaller IMO. Simple and iconic is BIG thinking.

    So that's a brief look at the background behind it. Again, once we have the new Mobile Nations site launched I'll have our head of design to a blog post on it going into more depth. But since this thread popped up I thought I'd give you some insight.

    And like I said.. give a few days... you're going to see it and think Mobile Nations. Not anything else.
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    I think it looks fracking sexy! Good job Kevin.

    Disclaimer: I was not paid to say that, I am however endorsed by Mobile Nations. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bla1ze View Post
    I think it looks fracking sexy! Good job Kevin.

    Disclaimer: I was not paid to say that, I am however endorsed by Mobile Nations. lol.
    Bla1ze, I disagree with what's sexy but to each his own .

    I like the logo. I like the lower case letters and think that the whole thing creates a family feel for the whole group of rectangles with their 'sub-logos' as was shown in Kevin's post.

    Kevin, you have a winner here.
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    I do dislike the name of the site. Smartphone Experts implied a place to go for advice from people who know smartphones.

    Mobile nations is generic, boring and bland.
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    Regardless of whether you like the name, the logo, or whatever... The point is that we are all one nation, all smartphone/tablet lovers, and working toward one common goal.

    We at Mobile Nations are all super excited about the changes that have been made, and the ones coming up. Our sincere thanks and appreciation go out to Kevin and the whole team that worked (and are still working) hard to bring us all of this goodness. You guys are awesome!!
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    Default Wow! Where do I start?

    Kevin, I don't write on CB all that often and my experience setting up a blog can't hold a candle to what you do, so who am I to talk? But having successfully faced a Trademark issue, I must say that I was honestly having more fun this morning than fingerpointing - perhaps that was sick humor (well it was cause I was smiling when I wrote it) but you sure rose to the challenge . I applaud your hard work in translating the mobile nation vision into graphic art - someone has to make these pages pretty. But my best laugh of the day was to come home from work, relax on the couch with my new Bold and check on my post - only to find it had disappeared! Normally, if a post is moved it says "Moved: to xyz page". Did I hurt someone's feelings I wondered? I hoped not. So back over to the blog and there I find a link explaining the logo. To my surprise I find my post here in the dungeon thread...where no man goes. So I dedicate this, my 99th post in the darkest corner of CB to you Kevin for all your hard work and for checkmate!

    Keep up the good work!
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    Default Looks Great

    I really like the new logo/branding for Mobile Nations. Well done!
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    LOVE the concept of the Mobile Nations, but I was tepid about the logo at first. HOWEVER it's really growing on me, especially after Kevin's explanation, and after seeing it in action with the other logo's behind it. SUPER clever!

    Great job!



    PS Got to say I LOVE the OP's Avatar also!

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