[anon(1464249)]

I'm not exactly sure if this has been posted before in a one-off thread, wasn't able to find it so here goes.

I like leaks and I like Sachesi to tinker with the BB10 OS as I please. I've been reviewing what bar files can be deleted from a leak before installing and of course after installing with Sachesi. Most bars are pretty straightforward and can be identified by their name but for some I need your help.

Info used from this thread: http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...nected-917998/
How-to remove these files: http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...s-os10-828351/

Thanks to everyone participating in this thread.

DISCLAIMER: this post is informational only. If you brick your phone, it's on you.
WARNING...IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS! YOU WILL MESS UP YOUR PHONE.

CAN BE DELETED

com.linkedin-10.1.6.2 Linkedin app,
com.assetscience.BBVE: BB Virtual Expert,
com.tcs.maps-10.2.1.779 Maps app,
com.twitter-10.2.2.14 Twitter app,
com.evernote: Evernote app,
com.foursquare.blackberry: Foursquare app,
com.rim.bb.app.adobeReader: Adobe Reader app,
com.rim.bb.app.cardholder: Cardholder, like Passbook for iOS,
com.rim.bb.app.facebook: Facebook app,
sys.appworld-5.0.0.137 Appworld app,
sys.authentication.clixel_plugin-10.2.1.0 Picture Password app,
sys.barcode-10.2.1.0 No idea what this is
sys.bbm-10.3.12.67 BBM app,
sys.calculator-10.2.1.29 Calculator app,
sys.cfs.box-1.2.1.86 Box app,
sys.cfs.dropbox-1.2.1.76 Dropbox app,
sys.compass-10.2.1.20 Compass app,
sys.data.asr-10.2.1.37 Speech recognition,
sys.AudioRecorder: Audio recorder,
sys.bug_reporter_3: Bug reporter,
sys.bugreport: Bugreport,
sys.cfs.webdav.todtm: BlackBerry Link Remote File Access,
sys.data.nuance_vocalizer: Voice Control.
sys.dxtg.*app*: Docs to Go.
sys.games: Games app,
sys.help-10.2.1.35 Help,
sys.howto-10.2.1.73 Tutorials app,
sys.installhandlerui-10.2.1.0 APK Installer,
sys.invokeTargetSelection-10.2.1.1 Share menu,
sys.miracastviewer-1.0.1.21 Miracastviewer,
sys.mmagic-10.2.1.137 Story Maker,
sys.NFCViewer-10.2.1.16NFC viewer,
sys.rcse-10.2.1.336 No idea what this is for,
sys.retaildemo-1.0.0.75 Demo file,
sys.smartcard-10.2.1.28 Smartcards, can de deleted
sys.smarttags-10.2.1.42 Smart tags app,
sys.socialconnect.facebook-10.1.2.48 Social connect,
sys.socialconnect.linkedin-10.1.1.48 Social connect,
sys.socialconnect.twitter-10.1.2.48 Social connect,
sys.socialconnect.youtube-10.1.2.48 Social connect,
sys.socialconnect.*etc*: Allows sharing to apps via share menu,
sys.wifisendcard-10.2.1.15 Wifi Direct GUI,
sys.weather: Weather app,

Make sure you keep at least 1 language file
sys.data.imf.af_ZA-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.ar_SA-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.ca_ES-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.cs_CZ-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.da_DK-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.de_DE-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.el_GR-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.en_GB-10.2.1.4 Language file
sys.data.imf.en_US-10.2.1.4 Language file
sys.data.imf.es_ES-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.eu_ES-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.fi_FI-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.fr_FR-10.2.1.3 Language file
sys.data.imf.gl_ES-10.2.1.1 Language file
sys.data.imf.he_IL-10.2.1.1 Language file
sys.data.imf.hg_IN-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.hi_IN-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.hr_HR-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.hu_HU-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.id_ID-10.2.1.3 Language file
sys.data.imf.it_IT-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.ja_JP-10.2.1.3 Language file
sys.data.imf.jv_ID-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.kk_KZ-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.ko_KR-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.ms_MY-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.nb_NO-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.nl_NL-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.pl_PL-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.pt_BR-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.pt_PT-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.ro_RO-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.ru_RU-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.sk_SK-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.sl_SI-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.sr_RS-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.su_ID-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.sv_SE-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.th_TH-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.tl_PH-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.tr_TR-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.vi_VN-10.2.1.2 Language file
sys.data.imf.zh-10.2.1.4 Language file

DO NOT DELETE

Z3_10.2.01.2947_STJ100-1 OS file,
sys.android.shell-10.2.1.144 Android Runtime OS hook, (you can delete it but it's not recommended)
sys.android-10.2.1.144 Android Runtime, (you can delete it but it's not recommended)
sys.browser-10.2.1.97 Browser app,
sys.chat-10.2.1.312 SMS app,
sys.chatblend-10.2.1.313 Part of the SMS/BBM app,
sys.camera: Camera app,
sys.firstlaunch: OOBE wizard,
sys.data.pbcd-10.2.1.2 BlackBerry Link + drivers,
sys.data.zoneinfo-10.2.1.5 Time Zone data,
sys.filepicker-10.11.1.51 File manager as invoked from within an app,
sys.notification_card-10.2.1.10 HUB notifications,
sys.perimeterbrowser-10.11.1.51 File manager, standalone,
sys.phone_settings-10.2.1.384 Phone settings,
sys.phone-10.2.1.426 Phone,
sys.pictures-10.200.1.60 Pictureviewer framework,
sys.pim.attachments.card-10.2.1.339 PIM service,
sys.pim.calendar.viewer.eventcreate-10.102.2.365 PIM service,
sys.pim.calendar.viewer.ics-10.102.2.365 ICS support, PIM service,
sys.pim.calendar.viewer.nav-10.102.2.365 Calendar event viewer, PIM service,
sys.pim.calendar-10.102.2.365 Calendar app, PIM service,
sys.pim.contacts-10.5.201.365 Contacts app, PIM service,
sys.pim.email.card-10.2.1.348 Individual emails, PIM service,
sys.pim.email.composer.card-10.2.2.365 Compose emails, PIM service,
sys.pim.messages-10.2.1.339 HUB, PIM service,
sys.pim.provider.traveler-10.2.1.64 IBM Traveler support, PIM service,
sys.pim.remember-10.2.1.337 Remember app, PIM service,
sys.settings.accounts-1.0.1.68 System settings Accounts,
sys.settings-10.2.1.219 System settings,
sys.search: Search,
sys.simtoolkit_ui_app: SIM card management,
sys.data.imf.root-10.2.1.8 Keyboard,

UNKNOWN IF SAFE TO DELETE OR NOT

sys.btviewer-10.2.1.18 Part of bluetooth
sys.clock-11.20.1.59 Clock app
sys.data.bluetooth-10.2.1.12 Bluetooth
sys.data.carrier_data-10.2.1.313 Carrier specific data settings
sys.mediastreamer: Media player, as invoked from within the Browser
sys.data.quip.authtokens-10.2.1.1424 Verification tokens for various carriers
sys.data.wallpaper-10.2.1.3 Wallpaper settings,
sys.deviceswitch-10.2.1.13 Deviceswitch settings,
sys.escreens-10.2.1.1074 Engineering screens,
sys.fuse-0.9.0.72 Intended to be a desktop dashboard for your phone
sys.hotspotBrowser-10.2.1.97 Internet Hotspot Login
sys.mediaplayer-10.2.1.47 Mediaplayer,
sys.paymentsystem-10.2.4.30 No idea what this is for
sys.pictureeditor-10.200.1.25 Picture editor,
sys.picturesviewer-10.200.1.60 Picture previewer,
sys.places.cards-10.2.1.16 Places, invoked when dealing with locations,
sys.setupbuffet-10.2.1.9 Setup wizard,
sys.smartcalling-10.2.1.332 Smart calling
sys.sysmon-10.2.1.4 System monitor,
sys.video_editor-10.2.1.20 Video editor,
sys.videoplayer-10.200.1.74 Video player,
sys.videochat: Videochat
sys.voicemailcompose-10.2.1.47 No idea what this is for
sys.voicemailsetup-10.2.1.47 Voicemail setup,
sys.zbbiocm: I don't know what this does.
sys.bb_screen_reader-1.0.1.18 Screen reader app, part of the accessibility options
sys.airtunes-10.200.1.58 Music app
sys.uri.bbhub: BB Hub icon.
sys.uri.textmessaging: Text messaging icon.
sys.uri.youtube: Youtube icon.

If you know what the files with No idea what this is for are for, please let me know so I can update the post.
If you spot flaws, let me know and I'll correct it.

[z10-abo]

sys.airtunes is the media player

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[anon(1464249)]

sys.airtunes is the media player

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So what is sys.mediaplayer?

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[QWKSNKE]

Thanks for the work in researching but why would anyone do this on a device with 16gb memory?
I mean, I have over 60 apps on my phone and still have 8 gb of device memory left.

STL-4. 10.2.1.2947 w/ 1259 clock

[eldricho]

Awesome work, man! Subbed
Here's a thread where Thurask explains all the functions of each bar file, maybe you could use it and update the ones you didn't know
http://forums.crackberry.com/showthread.php?t=917998

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[BBThemes]

com.tcs.maps-10.2.1.779 No idea what this is for

Maps App

sys.airtunes-10.200.1.58 No idea what this is for

Music App

sys.authentication.clixel_plugin-10.2.1.0 No idea what this is

The Picture Password app.

sys.btviewer-10.2.1.18 No idea what this is

Part of BlueTooth App

sys.chat-10.2.1.312 No idea what this is for
sys.chatblend-10.2.1.313 No idea what this is for

Chat is SMS, Chat Blend seems to be part of sms and also BBM, also is related to sys.fuse-0.9.0.72 which seems to be part of the sharing cards and invocation cards.

[anon(1464249)]

Thanks for the work in researching but why would anyone do this on a device with 16gb memory?
I mean, I have over 60 apps on my phone and still have 8 gb of device memory left.
STL-4. 10.2.1.2947 w/ 1259 clock

Removing useless parts or parts you don't use will have a positive impact on your device memory and speed. We're essentially building a hybrid like in the BB OS7 days

Awesome work, man! Subbed
Here's a thread where Thurask explains all the functions of each bar file, maybe you could use it and update the ones you didn't know
breakdown of system files and what each app they are connected to??? - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com

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Oh thanks. I missed that. It will come in handy indeed

Maps App

Music App

The Picture Password app.

Part of BlueTooth App

Chat is SMS, Chat Blend seems to be part of sms and also BBM, also is related to sys.fuse-0.9.0.72 which seems to be part of the sharing cards and invocation cards.

Thanks for the info

[LostOnThePianoRoll]

I remember back in OS6 days i could decrease the os size by half just by removing all the extra languages and the tutorials videos..

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[QWKSNKE]

Removing useless parts or parts you don't use will have a positive impact on your device memory and speed. We're essentially building a hybrid like in the BB OS7 days

Yeah i understood what you were doing and it definitely had its place in the BBOS days when devices were low on memory. I doubt there would be any benefit to doing this on a 16 gb device like that is in all BB10 devices to date.

I am going to follow this thread to see if anyone notices any performance change so I will know whether I should consider doing this.

[clie610]

Yeah i understood what you were doing and it definitely had its place in the BBOS days when devices were low on memory. I doubt there would be any benefit to doing this on a 16 gb device like that is in all BB10 devices to date.

I am going to follow this thread to see if anyone notices any performance change so I will know whether I should consider doing this.

Am not a techy person, and correct me if I'm wrong, but some part of those files are populating in the RAM instead of internal storage isn't it? So if we can free up more space in the RAM it will increase performance of our device. Though we have 2GB RAM for our current OS10 compared to max of 768MB RAM in Dakota BB9900

[meltbox360]

This is interesting. Wonder if you would see freed up ram just by deleting random unused stuff. I'll be watching this thread, very interesting.

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[clie610]

Another thing that would help more is dependency tree for these files, then...it will make it more interesting because it will give more safety when we take out files that we think not needed for our purpose.

[QWKSNKE]

Am not a techy person, and correct me if I'm wrong, but some part of those files are populating in the RAM instead of internal storage isn't it? So if we can free up more space in the RAM it will increase performance of our device. Though we have 2GB RAM for our current OS10 compared to max of 768MB RAM in Dakota BB9900

RAM is only used by active applications or processes.

STL-4. 10.2.1.2947 w/ 1259 clock

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Anyone up for creating a "shrink-my-os" for BB10? It was a life saver on the STORM, but I wouldn't mind getting rid on the clutter in BB10.

[CarbonKevin]

Any idea if the various nuance_vocon files can be ditched? I suspect the individual nuance files are for voice recognition - there's probably 200+ MB tied up here.

[anon(1464249)]

Am not a techy person, and correct me if I'm wrong, but some part of those files are populating in the RAM instead of internal storage isn't it? So if we can free up more space in the RAM it will increase performance of our device. Though we have 2GB RAM for our current OS10 compared to max of 768MB RAM in Dakota BB9900

Exactly right. This isn't about the internal storage, it's about freeing up RAM and a snappier OS.

Another thing that would help more is dependency tree for these files, then...it will make it more interesting because it will give more safety when we take out files that we think not needed for our purpose.

I agree, care to do some work?

Anyone up for creating a "shrink-my-os" for BB10? It was a life saver on the STORM, but I wouldn't mind getting rid on the clutter in BB10.

Try-as-you-go.

I'd like to find someone with a spare Z10 he/she doesn't use so we can test what can be safely deleted and what effects it brings.

Any idea if the various nuance_vocon files can be ditched? I suspect the individual nuance files are for voice recognition - there's probably 200+ MB tied up here.

If you're not using Voice recognition, there shouldn't be a problem deleting them.

[SCrid2000]

Some updates for you:
Wallpapers it's definitely fine to delete.
Payment systems is for paying for things I've never tried deleting it.
Any URI is ok to delete, including youtube.
If you delete setup, your device won't connect to a computer.
I believe sys.barcode is the BB World QR code reader.

[eybee1970]

sys.zbbiocm: I don't know what this does.

http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8818030
http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8818043

In general: to better find out what each app is for, just open the app with WinRAR or similar, go inside the 'native' folder, open 'bar-descriptor.xml' and you get a quite good description You can also open the 'xxxicon.png' within this 'native' folder and you get the picture of the app...might also give you a good understanding of what it is exaclty

[PJD642]

Well, I tried this using the latest version of Sachesi (1.1.5) on my Q10 running 10.2.1.2947, and the "permanent" files wont delete - I checked the boxes for games & mmagic, clicked the trash can icon, and they disappeared, but a click on the "refresh" button shows 'em still installed. Chrome browser method won't work either because of the "permanent" category.

Am I missing something obvious here, or is it just because they've been reclassified since .12xx? The "copy an older file onto the device" method hasn't worked for a while either. I'd really like to get rid of games & some other shyt I never use.

[eybee1970]

Well, I tried this using the latest version of Sachesi (1.1.5) on my Q10 running 10.2.1.2947, and the "permanent" files wont delete - I checked the boxes for games & mmagic, clicked the trash can icon, and they disappeared, but a click on the "refresh" button shows 'em still installed. Chrome browser method won't work either because of the "permanent" category.

Am I missing something obvious here, or is it just because they've been reclassified since .12xx? The "copy an older file onto the device" method hasn't worked for a while either. I'd really like to get rid of games & some other shyt I never use.

have a look here http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...s-os10-828351/

[anon(1464249)]

In general: to better find out what each app is for, just open the app with WinRAR or similar, go inside the 'native' folder, open 'bar-descriptor.xml' and you get a quite good description You can also open the 'xxxicon.png' within this 'native' folder and you get the picture of the app...might also give you a good understanding of what it is exaclty

Good tip.

Well, I tried this using the latest version of Sachesi (1.1.5) on my Q10 running 10.2.1.2947, and the "permanent" files wont delete - I checked the boxes for games & mmagic, clicked the trash can icon, and they disappeared, but a click on the "refresh" button shows 'em still installed. Chrome browser method won't work either because of the "permanent" category.

Am I missing something obvious here, or is it just because they've been reclassified since .12xx? The "copy an older file onto the device" method hasn't worked for a while either. I'd really like to get rid of games & some other shyt I never use.

Some files can't be removed on an installed OS. In order to remove them you'd need to wipe the device and delete the BAR files from the new install. Basically never install them in the first place.

[mapsonburt]

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