Tired of BlackBerry CEO's and strategies
- I'd been a very loyal customer of BlackBerry since 2008, but know I'm getting tired of company's strategy.
Why do we have to adapt to leaks, sideloads and .apk apps from other OS? A brand must satisfy their customers, not the customer the brand!
I was considering to move to the Z30, but right now I don't even see a clear future or strategy at BlackBerry... even when CEO is thinking to rescue and enforce BB7 devices!
The end is near...
Posted via CB1003-29-14 07:03 AMLike 4 -
- The end is not near. Chen is restructuring the company and he's doing a fine job at it. Z3, Q20 and Z50 the monster with killer specs and hardware to win over non BlackBerry customers, to be released this year. So what if they still support BB7. Obviously there is a demand for it until they make the move to BB10.
People like you always so negative and ready to give up when the ship is coming to the surface. Wait until the end of the year. BlackBerry will be a very different company. Until then enough with the worthless threads.
Posted by my awesome Z1003-29-14 07:39 AMLike 3 - Dude I feel your frustration. I think this current CEO is a blowhard. Unless someone who is emotionally invested in the company is running it (for example one of the founders of RIM) then it's just a paycheck for these people.
I'd like to see a CEO who uses the phone and can see hey I accidently take 50 pics and call 50 people on accident a day - maybe I should fix the OS. Hey I can't block calls. Hey this phone doesn't have near the customization of 7.1.
Someone who used and loved BBOS but wanted to see BB10 succeed should be running this company. BB10 could be great but either they **** canned too many people or they don't care.
They need to fix this OS to be better than anything out there then advertise the **** out of it.
And as far as some of the people on the forums. They see any frustration or complaining as being disloyal. Therefore you are an ******* to them. When all we want is to have a decent product. I've never had a smartphone other than BlackBerry - although I used to have an iPod 4g and typing on it sucked.
The only reason I'm staying is there isn't a torch style android with quality keyboard on the market and even though I hate typing on glass if I have to then I may as well use this one. But I am sick and tired of the dialing and snapping that goes on all day. I miss my 9810 to tell you the truth.
If they made a torch style bb10 phone with no virtual call and pic buttons and a 5 inch screen I'd be pretty happy.
Keep on venting your frustration. There are people out here who feel like you do - they just don't want to be burned at the stake like you're at a tea party convention saying Obama care isn't so bad.
via CB10 using a Z10 / STL100-3 / RFK121LW / 10.2.1.2234 / T-Mobile USA03-29-14 07:40 AMLike 8 - The end is not near. Chen is restructuring the company and he's doing a fine job at it. Z3, Q20 and Z50 the monster with killer specs and hardware to win over non BlackBerry customers, to be released this year. So what if they still support BB7. Obviously there is a demand for it until they make the move to BB10.
Posted via CB for BlackBerry Z1003-29-14 07:46 AMLike 0 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardDude I feel your frustration. I think this current CEO is a blowhard. Unless someone who is emotionally invested in the company is running it (for example one of the founders of RIM) then it's just a paycheck for these people.
I'd like to see a CEO who uses the phone and can see hey I accidently take 50 pics and call 50 people on accident a day - maybe I should fix the OS. Hey I can't block calls. Hey this phone doesn't have near the customization of 7.1.
Someone who used and loved BBOS but wanted to see BB10 succeed should be running this company. BB10 could be great but either they **** canned too many people or they don't care.
They need to fix this OS to be better than anything out there then advertise the **** out of it.
And as far as some of the people on the forums. They see any frustration or complaining as being disloyal. Therefore you are an ******* to them. When all we want is to have a decent product. I've never had a smartphone other than BlackBerry - although I used to have an iPod 4g and typing on it sucked.
The only reason I'm staying is there isn't a torch style android with quality keyboard on the market and even though I hate typing on glass if I have to then I may as well use this one. But I am sick and tired of the dialing and snapping that goes on all day. I miss my 9810 to tell you the truth.
If they made a torch style bb10 phone with no virtual call and pic buttons and a 5 inch screen I'd be pretty happy.
Keep on venting your frustration. There are people out here who feel like you do - they just don't want to be burned at the stake like you're at a tea party convention saying Obama care isn't so bad.
via CB10 using a Z10 / STL100-3 / RFK121LW / 10.2.1.2234 / T-Mobile USA
The jury's still out on JC.
The fact BlackBerry are starting production of a new Bold tells me:
(a) the company have no clear direction
(b) they're desperate
The last new BBOS device (released under Thorsten last year) failed to set the mobile world on fire.
I highly doubt a new Bold will, especially with many companies switching to BYOD to bring costs down.
Apart from the Z3, Chen hasn't mentioned new all-touch BB10 phones.03-29-14 07:51 AMLike 5 - I agree with you about the future outlook. I get protecting the corporate side of the business, but I would have preferred a device strategy similar to HTC's, a kick *** modern phone to make up for past mistakes with strong marketing and faith behind it. OS10 marketing is still doodoo with Mr. Chen. I'm still not getting rid of my phone, but the ship's not righted yet.
Posted via CB10Numero12 likes this.03-29-14 07:53 AMLike 1 -
The z50 will be the device to attract new customers. It's going to be 64-Bit Octa-Core. 4GB memory, 32GB HD, 1080p Super AMOLED display @ 5.2" with high ppi. 13 megapixel camera running 10.3 and sporting a 3000mah battery.
If you can't wait pick yourself up a Z30, its and awesome phone. Voted best phone on mobile madness. Beat out all phones including the Nexus 5 in the final battle and all that with no marketing at all on the Z30.
BlackBerry is here to stay. Just be patient.
PS: John Chen said in an interview that BlackBerry will not make the same Marketing mistakes it did in the past for the new phones coming out this year. Let's see what happens.
Posted by my awesome Z10Numero12 likes this.03-29-14 07:56 AMLike 1 - The company needs cash, if a company says... hey, we want to buy 15000 bolds, would you say well... sorry but we don't support those anymore? Right now the most important thing is that these enterprise companies stay on bes, whatever that takes, once they invest in a different system blackberry will never get them back. The strategy makes sense... keep them on bes with cheap phones that work well, fix the company, then get them to upgrade. I don't get all these threads, it's like some of you guys are under the impression that blackberry makes a lot of money off of selling phones to hipsters and tweens...They don't! they make money off of huge bulk corporate orders and enterprise services!
Posted via CB1003-29-14 08:00 AMLike 13 - Ask anyone who knows me, I'm a fan girl. So if I'm frustrated why not say., "BlackBerry I'm frustrated". Who better to complain than those of us who purchase more than one BlackBerry phone and therefore show our support with cash?03-29-14 08:02 AMLike 2
- Also news like this make scare in BlackBerry fans, even if they are loyal customers:
http://bgr.com/2014/03/28/blackberry...low-1-billion/
Posted via CB for BlackBerry Z1003-29-14 08:03 AMLike 0 - The company needs cash, if a company says... hey, we want to buy 15000 bolds, would you say well... sorry but we don't support those anymore? Right now the most important thing is that these enterprise companies stay on bes, whatever that takes, once they invest in a different system blackberry will never get them back. The strategy makes sense... keep them on bes with cheap phones that work well, fix the company, then get them to upgrade. I don't get all these threads, it's like some of you guys are under the impression that blackberry makes a lot of money off of selling phones to hipsters and tweens...They don't! they make money off of huge bulk corporate orders and enterprise services!
Posted via CB10
Posted by my awesome Z1003-29-14 08:06 AMLike 2 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardSome companies won't move to BES10, due to cost. They'll transition to another platform.03-29-14 08:10 AMLike 3
- Also news like this make scare in BlackBerry fans, even if they are loyal customers:
http://bgr.com/2014/03/28/blackberry...low-1-billion/
Posted via CB for BlackBerry Z10
Posted by my awesome Z10AlexB1227 likes this.03-29-14 08:11 AMLike 1 - OP, not sure I agree. Just because Chen said they will keep making the phone that makes them the most money (seem like a Business 101 move to me) doesn't mean "the end is near". I've been hearing "the end is near" for a couple years now. For some reason, it's always "just around the corner.
To specifically address your questions......
"Why do we have to adapt to leaks, sideloads and .apk apps from other OS? "
Leaks? You don't *have* to adapt to them . They are just that....a leak. They were not mean for your consumption yet. But carrier roll out is slow. Some more than others. Blame them.
Sideloads? Chicken and Egg. Sideloadsarewere required because devs decided at some point that the momentum was too far towards IOS and Android for them to care about BB. That leads to less apps. Which leads to less sales. Which leads to less apps. Which leads to less sales.... and so on, and so on.....
WP has the same issue. In fact ANY phone maker/OS that comes after the great mobile app land grab of 2011 will have the same problem. More chicken and egg issues. The only possible strategy....short of making each any every app themselves....is to simply tap into an existing app store. BB did that, and WP looks to be approaching that strategy as well. But now you only need to sideload Snap....that's it. Hopefully in the future you won't even need to do that.
"A brand must satisfy their customers, not the customer the brand!"
Not sure I understand this statement, but I'll agree that BB has been all over the map in terms of getting BB10 to a place where people are satisfied, especially all the legacy users. They still show promise, and I think Chen is the best ray of hope from a company that looked like it was in a coma.
...."I was considering to move to the Z30, but right now I don't even see a clear future or strategy at BlackBerry... even when CEO is thinking to rescue and enforce BB7 devices!".........
What does that have to do with your decision to get a Z30? The phone already exists, if you like it, get it. I see a much clearer future with Chen, and the basic plan is to act like they just survived a plane wreck. Strip down to basics, figure out the most important things to do to survive, conserve resources, and focus on a few basic things to get back to where everyone else is. Not sure what you mean by "rescue and enforce" BB7 devices. Rescue it from what... from leading the companies sales? Enforce what? No one is forced to by a BB7 phone. Chevy has a Volt...but still sells big trucks too. They can't survive on just one.03-29-14 08:15 AMLike 9 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry Wizard
An example: a friend of mine works for a large company in NYC, until recently they were all BES with BB7. They've recalled all BlackBerry handsets and given all employers Windows Phone handsets while moving to Office365/Azure/Lync as it will cost them less over 5 yrs than moving to BES10 will.
Now, I don't know how much they're saving but if a company with over 50k employees is doing this, what about the smaller companies where cost is even more important.03-29-14 08:18 AMLike 3 - the day is near blackberry will build not many smartphone's because there services is also for ios,android and windows and not only in BES, but also in BBM (IM) or CARS like Apple Carplay. The plarform or brand supporting all is here , yes right here and now and building on for service and that is there strategy to get money from services and some smartphone's and the deal with foxcon is a great deal because they can make money.03-29-14 08:21 AMLike 0
- I didn't say moving would be free.
An example: a friend of mine works for a large company in NYC, until recently they were all BES with BB7. They've recalled all BlackBerry handsets and given all employers Windows Phone handsets while moving to Office365/Azure/Lync as it will cost them less over 5 yrs than moving to BES10 will.
Now, I don't know how much they're saving but if a company with over 50k employees is doing this, what about the smaller companies where cost is even more important.
But I guess the higher price has to do with the extra security you are getting. There is a trade off. Security vs going cheaper and being vulnerable to attacks, malware, and hacks.
Posted by my awesome Z1003-29-14 08:25 AMLike 0 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry Wizard
BlackBerry don't realise the harm they're doing to their customers by making (and repeating) bad decisions.
As much I like BlackBerry as a company, I recognise they need to be held accountable for said decisions.03-29-14 08:58 AMLike 2 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardI see your point, thanks for the explanation. Is there a reason then why BES10 is more expensive? Wouldn't BlackBerry want to make this cheaper than the competition to retain your customer base? I'm a bit confused on this part.
But I guess the higher price has to do with the extra security you are getting. There is a trade off. Security vs going cheaper and being vulnerable to attacks, malware, and hacks.
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I'm not an expert on BES/BES10 but I do realise companies want to save money wherever they can.Anilu7 likes this.03-29-14 09:00 AMLike 1 - sleepngbearRetired Moderator
Personally, I think this latest move with BBOS devices is simply to buy more time for an eventual transition to BB10, time they obviously didn't think they needed when they first brought out BB10. But I do still believe that the goal is to transition to BB10. What they've learned this past year is that they cannot make that transition so abrupt and expect everyone to switch gears to a new platform. The things that have kept BBOS users loyal to BB are the very reasons why they have been so slow to adopt BB10. So continuing BB7 devices and adding the tool belt to some BB10 devices will smooth that transition.03-29-14 09:03 AMLike 4
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