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  1. shinichi_c00l's Avatar
    shinichi_c00l
    I tested both device, and the ti-omap (stl100-1) seems more fluid in the settings > submenu, why is that? , the snapdragon (stl100-2) is stuttering inside submenu of setting (eg. settings > notifications)

    Posted via CrackBerry10 app on Z10
    03-17-13 02:41 AM
  2. GTiLeo's Avatar
    GTiLeo
    Probably because they are running on different version of BB10

    Posted via CB10
    03-17-13 02:58 AM
  3. shinichi_c00l's Avatar
    shinichi_c00l
    I've updated both to the latest firmware.

    The weird thing is on specs, the snapdragon chipset will be faster about 10-20% of performance, but in real life testing with z10, looks like STL100-1 with ti-omap on z10 seems to be running more fluid.

    Is it because when bb10 was developed all dev-alpha devices including playbook has the ti-omap hardware?, so is the os is more properly coded on the ti-omap?

    Posted via CrackBerry10 app on Z10
    03-17-13 03:14 AM
  4. omercan7's Avatar
    omercan7
    STL1 using Qualcomm Snapdragon too. This is my screen shot. You can see Powered by Qualcomm.
    Different performance between omap4470 vs snapdragon s4-img_00000295.png
    Different performance between omap4470 vs snapdragon s4-img_00000293.png

    Posted via CB10
    03-17-13 03:19 AM
  5. anon(4044683)'s Avatar
    anon(4044683)
    I see a lot if people complaining on a slight lag in settings menu. I'm using STL-2. I haven't noticed any lags.

    Posted via CB10
    03-17-13 03:22 AM
  6. pallav_gupta's Avatar
    pallav_gupta
    No it is not check with geek bench.

    Posted via CB10
    03-17-13 03:23 AM
  7. shinichi_c00l's Avatar
    shinichi_c00l
    @omercan : the STL100-1 is using TI-OMAP 4470, it is also using qualcomm radio / modem, so what you see in about pages is not stating what chipset its used.

    Posted via CrackBerry10 app on Z10
    03-17-13 03:26 AM
  8. bitek's Avatar
    bitek
    My is STL100-3

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    03-17-13 05:29 AM
  9. shinichi_c00l's Avatar
    shinichi_c00l
    STL100-2 / 3 / 4 is using the same chipset (snapdragon s4 with adreno 225), but STL100-1 is using TI-OMAP 4470 with PowerVR SGX-544

    Posted via CrackBerry10 app on Z10
    03-17-13 05:33 AM
  10. koolpep's Avatar
    koolpep
    Well it might be that the PowerVR is slightly snappier for some 2D stuff like menus. Or just that the OS is better optimized for the OMAP as the Dev Alpha was a TI-OMAP 4470 as well.
    03-17-13 06:21 AM
  11. toutounjiomar's Avatar
    toutounjiomar
    Crackberry Kevin, please share your knowledge about this !
    03-17-13 06:45 AM
  12. omercan7's Avatar
    omercan7
    I think all models use same cpu, Qualcomm Snapdragon.

    Posted via CB10
    03-17-13 07:58 AM
  13. shinichi_c00l's Avatar
    shinichi_c00l
    Originally Posted by omercan7
    I think all models use same cpu, Qualcomm Snapdragon.

    Posted via CB10
    No it is not, only the STL100-1 is using TI-OMAP 4470 configuration.

    Posted via CrackBerry10 app on Z10
    03-17-13 08:12 AM
  14. shinichi_c00l's Avatar
    shinichi_c00l
    And mind you, even the OS updates is in different iteration, as of right now, STL100-1 latest OS updates is 10.0.10.82
    And STL100-2 latest OS updates is 10.0.10.90

    @omrcan7 : try benchmark with geekbench, i got 1600-1700 total scores. I believe with ti-omap it will be lower about 1400-1500 ish.

    Posted via CrackBerry10 app on Z10
    03-17-13 08:19 AM
  15. EauRouge's Avatar
    EauRouge
    Trusted Member
    Originally Posted by omercan7
    STL1 using Qualcomm Snapdragon too. This is my screen shot. You can see Powered by Qualcomm.
    Click image for larger version.  Name: IMG_00000295.png  Views: 1609  Size: 111.6 KB  ID: 141851
    Click image for larger version.  Name: IMG_00000293.png  Views: 1595  Size: 147.3 KB  ID: 141852

    Posted via CB10
    Totally off topic, but how did you post a screen shot with the CB10 app! The feature keeps eluding me
    03-17-13 08:19 AM
  16. Pistooli's Avatar
    Pistooli
    As far as I know the STL100-1 has a bit better gpu, while it's CPU is not as fast as the others.

    Posted via CB10 from Z10
    03-17-13 08:19 AM
  17. omercan7's Avatar
    omercan7
    What's your source?


    Posted via CB10
    03-17-13 08:22 AM
  18. shinichi_c00l's Avatar
    shinichi_c00l
    Originally Posted by EauRouge
    Totally off topic, but how did you post a screen shot with the CB10 app! The feature keeps eluding me
    Vol Up + Vol Down to take screenshot anywhere

    Posted via CrackBerry10 app on Z10
    03-17-13 08:23 AM
  19. omercan7's Avatar
    omercan7
    Originally Posted by EauRouge
    Totally off topic, but how did you post a screen shot with the CB10 app! The feature keeps eluding me
    Swipe down the keyboard.
    Different performance between omap4470 vs snapdragon s4-img_00000308.png

    Posted via CB10
    03-17-13 08:24 AM
  20. knighty2112's Avatar
    knighty2112
    Originally Posted by EauRouge
    Totally off topic, but how did you post a screen shot with the CB10 app! The feature keeps eluding me
    If you minimise the keyboard in CB10 with a 2 finger swipe down after typing a comment you get the option at the bottom to attach a picture.

    Posted via CB10 via my awesome Z10
    03-17-13 08:24 AM
  21. jasonvan9's Avatar
    jasonvan9
    Originally Posted by knighty2112
    If you minimise the keyboard in CB10 with a 2 finger swipe down after typing a comment you get the option at the bottom to attach a picture.

    Posted via CB10 via my awesome Z10
    You can also just hold down the space bar to minimize the keyboard at anytime

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    knighty2112 likes this.
    03-17-13 08:28 AM
  22. shinichi_c00l's Avatar
    shinichi_c00l
    Originally Posted by omercan7
    What's your source?


    Posted via CB10
    http://www.berryreview.com/2013/03/1...ces-stl-100-x/

    Posted via CrackBerry10 app on Z10
    03-17-13 08:28 AM
  23. omercan7's Avatar
    omercan7
    Please Kevin, share your knowledge.
    03-17-13 10:48 AM
  24. koolpep's Avatar
    koolpep
    What is there to share fir Kevin? We know everything already for many weeks?

    Not sure what else you need to know omarcan7?

    We had quite a few threads already defining the differences. We have the specs, we have the geek bench scores. We have the OS compatibility of the stl100-1 with the dev alpha which had the ti omap, so there is no absolutely no doubt that this is the case.

    The power vr might be slightly faster than the Adreno but is in pure processing power around 25-30% slower than the snapdragon.

    Real Life relevance is minimal. I have a stl100-1 and it's smooth as butter.

    Enjoy your Z10 with any CPU and GPU ;-)

    Posted via CB10
    Amit Oberoi likes this.
    03-17-13 03:18 PM
  25. Daniel Coca's Avatar
    Daniel Coca
    i own both devices, and i would say there isn’t any different in performance… : I own both because well I work for BB.
    Jimberry Storm and jimpilot like this.
    03-17-13 04:31 PM
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