- How many people would pay $99.00 to download a Windows 8 OS Tablet OS app if it became availabe in app world? Don't say it couldn't be done. I think it would actually launch the Playbook on the fast track into the business world and beyond. Just think about being able to load all of your important windows software on the playbook and have it work well.
The business world needs to be able to run their windows software and so far the closest thing to portability is a $200.00 net book. I would rather carry a playbook than a netbook, but I carry both. RIM needs to start working with Microsoft. They can't go any further in the tablet market without them. They have the right tablet and QNX is top shelf, now they need to put it to work.09-07-11 11:42 PMLike 0 -
- Just sounds like you're stretching a bit much. I like my playbook. But its QNX - and owned by RIM. Not MSFT.
Windows 8 does sound like its got a few flavors, and a compatibility mode to run "all of your important windows software" (we'll see what that means, probably Win7 compatability mode?).
RIM owns Documents to Go. They have a brewing use of the Android player (think Google Docs).
Ya never know in the tablet world, I just think with the eventual Windows 8 tablets, saying "I want my playbook to run that (pointing at Windows 8)" is akin to owning a nice solid BMW pointing at a Mercedes saying "but I want his engine". If you want that engine, get that car. If running windows apps is that key, I suspect that will be the major selling point of Win 8.09-08-11 12:17 AMLike 0 - Windows makes software for computers. The playbook is a computer. I love the engine in my playbook and I don't want to buy a piece of crap windows tablet made by a some crapy company just to get some business windows software running. My analogy if you want to talk cars is: the playbook is a Ferrari and it runs QNX if I want to pick up a passanger, (windows 8) I should be able to and do the business I need to. When I am done, I should be able to open the door and eject the passanger any time I like. The engine is fine.09-08-11 01:58 AMLike 0
- the problem youve got is the operating system isnt the passenger in your example, its the seat... you cant just take a seat from a ford focus, whack it in your ferrari and then let the fat man jump in, theres a lot of work that goes into making that os/seat fit with the playbooks virtual machine/car... god this analogy is getting thin
i wouldnt say it definitely wont be done (just look at Wine and what not that you get on linux) but its going to take a good few devs a good amount of time to get it running and stable. When you consider how many vendors will jump on windows 8 at release i dont see why they would go to the trouble of porting it to an older / widely reported as unsuccessful platform (when win8 hits the playbook is going to be getting on for a couple of years old which is an eternity with computers - and note the "reported" part there, i love my pb personally but the media still insist on bashing them )
thats my 2 pence worth anyway, not impossible, not a bad idea either, but i do thini quite unlikelyTBone4eva likes this.09-08-11 02:20 AMLike 1 - How many people would pay $99.00 to download a Windows 8 OS Tablet OS app if it became availabe in app world? Don't say it couldn't be done. I think it would actually launch the Playbook on the fast track into the business world and beyond. Just think about being able to load all of your important windows software on the playbook and have it work well.
The business world needs to be able to run their windows software and so far the closest thing to portability is a $200.00 net book. I would rather carry a playbook than a netbook, but I carry both. RIM needs to start working with Microsoft. They can't go any further in the tablet market without them. They have the right tablet and QNX is top shelf, now they need to put it to work.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com09-08-11 03:31 AMLike 0 - I have a Windows 7 tablet, and can tell you that running standard Windows applications on a tablet is no fun. Both the OS and the application need to be re-engineered or at least optimized for touch use.
Even Office is hardly usable. The one possible exception is OneNote with a stylus, but that is built for inking. But then, the PlayBook doesn't work well with a stylus.
So Windows 8 may be (incrementally) more touch-friendly than Windows 7, but untill the apps follow, I'm sticking to platforms that were designed for touch from day 1.Last edited by Innovatology; 09-08-11 at 05:05 AM.
09-08-11 04:10 AMLike 0 - I may be in over my head here and I do see how improbable it would be. I don't want to run windows on my playbook as an OS as it would need a wireless keyboard and mouse. You may as well carry a netbook. However if I could be running a critical software program specific to my business on an open app running within the QNX OS of the tablet, I would be willing to pay top dollar for the convenience. The only workaround for it now is to use a VNC, as many playbook users do. I am quite sure if they didn't need to use a VNC and instead use a windows app on the playbook, it would be a long term savings, rather than having to pay for computers just sitting around being used for VNC purposes only. Like I said before I just carry the playbook and a netbook as a workaround. Cheers guys and thanks for your input and ideas.
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09-08-11 04:45 AMLike 0 - SlcCorradoBlackBerryWindows makes software for computers. The playbook is a computer. I love the engine in my playbook and I don't want to buy a piece of crap windows tablet made by a some crapy company just to get some business windows software running. My analogy if you want to talk cars is: the playbook is a Ferrari and it runs QNX if I want to pick up a passanger, (windows 8) I should be able to and do the business I need to. When I am done, I should be able to open the door and eject the passanger any time I like. The engine is fine.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.comUrbanGlowCam likes this.09-08-11 06:41 AMLike 1 - I'd be willing to pay ~$100 for a windows office suite that runs on the PB, or a reasonable facsimile like Open Office. Instead, I just paid ~ $600 for a refurbed HP Slate 500. Although it's larger, heavier, initially slower to render and has a kludgier UI, it gives me a relatively infinite amount of existing program options compared to any "tablet". The existing state of the PB, billed as a "professional" tablet, falls way short of being a usefull tool as much as the Slate falls short as a simple, handy portable computer. My intuition, based on what I have seen and used in the world of compact portable computing for over 15 years is that only Microsoft has ever attempted to develop a true hybrid OS that would satisfy the professional while keeping the general population in bread and circuses. I have high hopes for whatever they develop for the tablet market as it would come out of the gate biased toward a commercial function with a few frills to satisfy the entertainment aspect. This is what RIM should have done with the PB.
The logic is simple: Social media and bird games don't help me earn income, and income pays for social media and bird games.Schlymer likes this.09-08-11 07:32 AMLike 1 - I have a Windows 7 tablet, and can tell you that running standard Windows applications on a tablet is no fun. Both the OS and the application need to be re-engineered or at least optimized for touch use.
Even Office is hardly usable. The one possible exception is OneNote with a stylus, but that is built for inking. But then, the PlayBook doesn't work well with a stylus.
So Windows 8 may be (incrementally) more touch-friendly than Windows 7, but untill the apps follow, I'm sticking to platforms that were designed for touch from day 1.
Already it has 30,000+ apps
Pb has ?
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.comUrbanGlowCam likes this.09-08-11 08:57 AMLike 1 -
And don't have the actual Windows 8 OS on the PB. But the Windows compatibility on the PB would be amazing.09-08-11 11:18 AMLike 0 -
QNX already runs C++, not yet for the blackberry playbook though :] and its not the same as windows of course, modification and recompiling will be required. HTML5 and javascript on blackberry devices is webworks, which the playbook and blackberry phones (OS6+?) have been capable of for quite some time, and java will run as the android and blackberry player, as mobile apps. Though not a match for the limitless possibilities windows carries, considering windows 8 is not just a "mobile" tablet OS, but rather a desktop OS, the playbook will have an ample development base, possibly more than its current direct competitors (iOS,Android).Last edited by gbsn; 09-08-11 at 12:35 PM.
09-08-11 11:46 AMLike 0 - How many people would pay $99.00 to download a Windows 8 OS Tablet OS app if it became availabe in app world? Don't say it couldn't be done. I think it would actually launch the Playbook on the fast track into the business world and beyond. Just think about being able to load all of your important windows software on the playbook and have it work well.
The business world needs to be able to run their windows software and so far the closest thing to portability is a $200.00 net book. I would rather carry a playbook than a netbook, but I carry both. RIM needs to start working with Microsoft. They can't go any further in the tablet market without them. They have the right tablet and QNX is top shelf, now they need to put it to work.
Hells yes. My current Windows tablet is old and I need an upgrade.
And using XP Tablet edition was second nature. Very easy to use with the stylus. Stylus on a playbook meh probably not as easy though.Last edited by flyersfan76; 09-08-11 at 01:20 PM.
09-08-11 01:14 PMLike 0 -
- incorrect msft does have 30k + apps but they dont ALL work on EVERY Microsoft device... thats like saying all 400k iOS apps work on the iPad/iPhone (Wait they tell that lie too.....)09-08-11 06:38 PMLike 0
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- How many people would pay $99.00 to download a Windows 8 OS Tablet OS app if it became availabe in app world? Don't say it couldn't be done. I think it would actually launch the Playbook on the fast track into the business world and beyond. Just think about being able to load all of your important windows software on the playbook and have it work well.
The business world needs to be able to run their windows software and so far the closest thing to portability is a $200.00 net book. I would rather carry a playbook than a netbook, but I carry both. RIM needs to start working with Microsoft. They can't go any further in the tablet market without them. They have the right tablet and QNX is top shelf, now they need to put it to work.09-13-11 10:43 PMLike 0
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