10-29-10 07:07 PM
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  1. wickey27's Avatar
    wickey27
    Well.........The price I pay for buying a pre-release phone.

    I've had a 9780 for about 2 months now. A couple days ago my data stopped working (phone continues to work so I can make/receive calls). I called my service provider (who contacted RIM). I ended up on the phone with RIM who informed me that the PIN has been locked indefinitely due to the phone being a pre-release model which is not publically available. They said there is nothing they can do - basically I have a paperweight.

    Anyone else experience this? Any idea if the PIN might be re-activiated after the phone is officially released? The person I spoke to at RIM said it is possible but could not guarantee.
    10-26-10 12:31 PM
  2. maxiang's Avatar
    maxiang
    From what I understand, RIM does this to pre-release, engineering, and testing devices and it is never undone

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-26-10 12:48 PM
  3. escentz's Avatar
    escentz
    HA im sorry that im not very helpful but that made me laugh... really sucks!!!
    10-26-10 12:53 PM
  4. mthomps07's Avatar
    mthomps07
    It has begun...
    10-26-10 12:57 PM
  5. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    MobileMadness002
    What's beginning? People whining about being locked knowing very well they should not even have in their possession something like a pre-production device?
    10-26-10 01:02 PM
  6. Culex316's Avatar
    Culex316
    Sell it on Ebay as a PIN locked, useless 9780, it's not completely worthless....and will still get some cash.
    10-26-10 01:26 PM
  7. Phill_UK's Avatar
    Phill_UK
    CrackBerry Wiseguy
    That sucks wickey

    ...although we all knew it was a possibility from day one
    10-26-10 01:41 PM
  8. greggebhardt's Avatar
    greggebhardt
    I have had 5 different pre-release units (different models) and not one has ever been locked. They are still working today. I think if they were stolen they would.
    Last edited by greggebhardt; 10-26-10 at 02:51 PM.
    10-26-10 02:39 PM
  9. greggebhardt's Avatar
    greggebhardt
    Originally Posted by MobileMadness002
    What's beginning? People whining about being locked knowing very well they should not even have in their possession something like a pre-production device?
    LOL!
    Kinda makes you sound jealous!
    Last edited by greggebhardt; 10-26-10 at 02:43 PM.
    10-26-10 02:41 PM
  10. shahriyar's Avatar
    shahriyar
    send me..ill check & get away. man! you must be half dead
    10-26-10 03:06 PM
  11. gamecock425's Avatar
    gamecock425
    Sorry to hear about that!

    Hopefully this means it's coming soon

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-26-10 03:09 PM
  12. freethisberrydotcom's Avatar
    freethisberrydotcom
    That sux. Would they release the PIN after launch? ??
    10-26-10 04:15 PM
  13. wickey27's Avatar
    wickey27
    Is it possible to use a regular data plan and bypass BIS with a locked PIN?

    Would my phone receive data from a regular data plan via APN? I don't really care about BIS - I don't use messenger and I'm sure I could install a third party email push....

    Anyone have any experience doing this on a BB?
    10-26-10 05:16 PM
  14. Clarkee's Avatar
    Clarkee
    Originally Posted by wickey27
    Is it possible to use a regular data plan and bypass BIS with a locked PIN?

    Would my phone receive data from a regular data plan via APN? I don't really care about BIS - I don't use messenger and I'm sure I could install a third party email push....

    Anyone have any experience doing this on a BB?
    Impossible.

    That's all.
    10-26-10 07:36 PM
  15. wickey27's Avatar
    wickey27
    I don't think it's impossible. I'm already part way there.

    I tried it with another SIM card I have which has a regular data plan (not BIS). I enabled apn on my 9780 and I now have web browsing working on the phone. Now I just need to find a third party email push.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-26-10 09:21 PM
  16. mordenxp's Avatar
    mordenxp
    Are you actually surprised they locked you out?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-26-10 11:09 PM
  17. wickey27's Avatar
    wickey27
    Yes I am surprised it was locked. This is the third pre-release blackberry I have owned over the last few years. All 3 came from the exact same source.
    I had a 9700 pre-release and the PIN never got locked.
    This is the first time a pin has been locked on me.
    10-27-10 12:43 AM
  18. mordenxp's Avatar
    mordenxp
    Perhaps it was locked out because it is a pre-released device and not meant for public use? /facepalm

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-27-10 12:54 AM
  19. vrs626's Avatar
    vrs626
    Originally Posted by mordenxp
    Perhaps it was locked out because it is a pre-released device and not meant for public use? /facepalm

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Plenty of people have pre-release Blackberry's that don't get locked. All you need to do is spend 5 minutes reading through the boards to see how common it is.
    10-27-10 01:04 AM
  20. anandsihra's Avatar
    anandsihra
    I had a pre-release Storm with a locked PIN, I just called RIM, told them my story, and they unlocked it. Give it a try AFTER RELEASE!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-27-10 05:29 AM
  21. phonejunky's Avatar
    phonejunky
    Originally Posted by MobileMadness002
    What's beginning? People whining about being locked knowing very well they should not even have in their possession something like a pre-production device?
    It didn't seem like he was whining at all. Seemed like he was seeking help for his problem, or otherwise he just has a dead paperweight. Comments like this jumping down peoples throat without warrant is why this forum site remains a war-ground.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-27-10 05:46 AM
  22. mechanic_joe's Avatar
    mechanic_joe
    Originally Posted by CrackberryBrandon
    It didn't seem like he was whining at all. Seemed like he was seeking help for his problem, or otherwise he just has a dead paperweight. Comments like this jumping down peoples throat without warrant is why this forum site remains a war-ground.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    +1, people asking for opinions and advice are not whining.
    10-27-10 07:37 AM
  23. phinx404's Avatar
    phinx404
    lol... thats the reason i had mine for a month or so and then swapped it back out at the shop i got it from for a torch! woohoo! now im gonna swap this for the retail of this one now.
    10-27-10 02:46 PM
  24. djnick's Avatar
    djnick
    Its always a risk with pre release devices. If you were willing to take the risk and buy it then you should accept the consequences instead of blaming RIM
    10-28-10 03:43 PM
  25. wickey27's Avatar
    wickey27
    Am I missing something? Was I blaming RIM? In fact quite the opposite.....

    Considering the first comment I typed at the beginning of the forum said "the price I pay for buying a pre-release phone"...hardly complaining or whining as one other person suggested.......

    People....before you make stupid comments...use what intelligence you have and read the thread........I was not whining nor complaining....I was using the forum for the primary purpose of it! - for Knowledge sharing, suggestions, comments and feed-back....

    btw - I purchased my phone from a licensed blackberry dealer - I went there to purchase a 9700 and they sold me a 9780 ....I had no idea at the time that this could have happened as I have purchased other pre-release phones from the same company in the past with no issues.

    They are replacing my pre-release 9780 with a retail release version

    Regards
    10-29-10 06:10 PM
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