1. lazydevice's Avatar
    SO the posting on the front page is saying that the new curve 3G is basically and updated GSM 8520, updated to 8530 specs (3G/GPS?More Memory). The news release also states that the phone will come with OS 5.0 but will be UPGRADEABLE TO OS6.0. If this is true I don't think its much of a leap to think that our earlier model curves will be getting 6.0. I for one am excited!
    08-09-10 06:55 AM
  2. pcgizmo#IM's Avatar
    RIM did not include 85xx Curve2 in it's list of devices current "in market" that will be getting OS6. 9700, 9650, 9100 were mentioned specifically.
    08-09-10 07:10 AM
  3. RWWackostu's Avatar
    No. 8520/30 will NOT be getting OS 6.
    08-09-10 09:03 AM
  4. JRF_1986's Avatar
    More memory? I read the specs on the Blackberry site and I read 256mb RAM/internal memory, just like my 8520. You would think we'd get supported but I'm betting we're not. So, if you want an 8500 model with BB6, get the 9300. I'm not getting it since 9 months from now they'll probably release the next Curve 3G with 512mb of memory. I'll be looking to play with the 9800 at an ATT store when I visit the States. If I lke what I see, I'll buy one (unless I win the contest!) when I get the cash for an unlocked one.

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    08-09-10 09:20 AM
  5. dwx360417's Avatar
    Here's hoping for a hybrid, as I just got two 8520's for the fam.
    08-09-10 09:20 AM
  6. BerryBum23's Avatar
    Yday I posted RIM as to making the best decision for us Curve 2 owners depending upon hardware speeds but after seeing the Curve 3G it'll be a blatant slap in the face if they give the 8530/8520 the axe. If they wanted this to happen, they could. A mere firmware version is not enough to keep us out.

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    08-09-10 09:56 AM
  7. arjang's Avatar
    Curve3G is essentially 8530 but on GSM network. And if it has the option of getting OS6 (based on the article it does) then that means 8530 can too as the only difference is the antenna.
    08-09-10 01:27 PM
  8. firecracker37's Avatar
    The Curve 3G also has 256MB of memory, while our 85XX models only have 128MB. That is what is holding us back from OS6.

    I'm hopefull that my carrier will pick up the new model, and quickly. I still have 3 weeks left to trade in my 8530, and would rather have something that will remain viable for longer.

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    08-09-10 01:35 PM
  9. RWWackostu's Avatar
    Curve3G is essentially 8530 but on GSM network. And if it has the option of getting OS6 (based on the article it does) then that means 8530 can too as the only difference is the antenna.
    The 8520 has the same internal specs as the 8530. They are clones except for the 3G and the CDMA vs GSM radio.

    RIM has said that the 85XX will NOT be getting OS 6. We are EOL'ed. Look for hybrids.
    08-09-10 01:45 PM
  10. JRF_1986's Avatar
    The Curve 3G also has 256MB of memory, while our 85XX models only have 128MB. That is what is holding us back from OS6.

    I'm hopefull that my carrier will pick up the new model, and quickly. I still have 3 weeks left to trade in my 8530, and would rather have something that will remain viable for longer.

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    The 8500 series has 256mb of memory. The 120-130mb left is after installing the OS.

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    08-09-10 02:12 PM
  11. diegonei's Avatar
    The Curve 3G also has 256MB of memory, while our 85XX models only have 128MB. That is what is holding us back from OS6.

    I'm hopefull that my carrier will pick up the new model, and quickly. I still have 3 weeks left to trade in my 8530, and would rather have something that will remain viable for longer.
    As pointed before, the 8500 series do have 256mb. It is the Bold 9000 that has 128mb.

    The more I look at the 8500 and the 9300, the more I think I can fake it by just changin the keyboard/faceplate/lens... Hybrids will come. There are some already, but when the 9300's BlackBerry 6 is out, chances are we'll be able to "upgrade" without buying new devices at all...
    08-09-10 02:27 PM
  12. arjang's Avatar
    The 8520 has the same internal specs as the 8530. They are clones except for the 3G and the CDMA vs GSM radio.

    RIM has said that the 85XX will NOT be getting OS 6. We are EOL'ed. Look for hybrids.
    When did RIM say the 85xx will not get it ? They just didn't include it in the primary list, but that also didn't include the curve3g.

    I am expecting all kinds of hybrid goodies, I already have over 30 6.0 COD files running but I hope to get the whole 6.0 interface/webkit once it is released for the curve3g.
    08-09-10 03:24 PM
  13. pcgizmo#IM's Avatar
    When did RIM say the 85xx will not get it ? They just didn't include it in the primary list, but that also didn't include the curve3g.
    The list was "current in-market" devices: 9700, 9650, 9100. 9300 isn't in market yet.
    08-09-10 03:27 PM
  14. RWWackostu's Avatar
    When did RIM say the 85xx will not get it ? They just didn't include it in the primary list, but that also didn't include the curve3g.

    I am expecting all kinds of hybrid goodies, I already have over 30 6.0 COD files running but I hope to get the whole 6.0 interface/webkit once it is released for the curve3g.
    Mike L stated only the 9700, 9650, 9100. He also stated all new devices will have it. I am hoping for a 9300/8520 hybrid as soon as thats released.
    08-09-10 03:40 PM
  15. decypher44's Avatar
    The 8520 has the same internal specs as the 8530. They are clones except for the 3G and the CDMA vs GSM radio.

    RIM has said that the 85XX will NOT be getting OS 6. We are EOL'ed. Look for hybrids.
    Not quite. 8530 has GPS.


    And straight from blackberry.com, comparison of the 8520, 8530 and Curve 3G

    Comparison
    08-09-10 03:56 PM
  16. acaden's Avatar
    As pointed before, the 8500 series do have 256mb. It is the Bold 9000 that has 128mb.

    The more I look at the 8500 and the 9300, the more I think I can fake it by just changin the keyboard/faceplate/lens... Hybrids will come. There are some already, but when the 9300's BlackBerry 6 is out, chances are we'll be able to "upgrade" without buying new devices at all...
    The 8500 series has 128MB RAM. No 128MB RAM device has been announced as getting OS 6. This is most likely the issue.
    08-09-10 06:24 PM
  17. papped's Avatar
    The 8500 series has 128MB RAM. No 128MB RAM device has been announced as getting OS 6. This is most likely the issue.
    Except that the 9700 has been, and has the same ram...
    08-09-10 07:26 PM
  18. diegonei's Avatar
    The 8500 series has 128MB RAM. No 128MB RAM device has been announced as getting OS 6. This is most likely the issue.
    Show me spec sheets. If you two are so adamant about it, I'm quite sure you can post a link here. I'll be happy to stand corrected, I really don't mind it.

    In the mean time, here is what Fixmo Tools' Memory Monitor has to say about it:

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    08-09-10 07:28 PM
  19. papped's Avatar
    Show me spec sheets. If you two are so adamant about it, I'm quite sure you can post a link here. I'll be happy to stand corrected, I really don't mind it.

    In the mean time, here is what Fixmo Tools' Memory Monitor has to say about it:
    He means ram, rather than just "flash memory". Flash memory is the # that most sites list.

    256mb is the eeprom
    RAM on bold 9700---128mb or 256mb? - The Unofficial BlackBerry Support Forum

    But regardless, the 9700 is supporting OS6. The 8530 specs are not the limiter here...
    08-09-10 07:30 PM
  20. diegonei's Avatar
    He means ram, rather than just "flash memory". Flash memory is the # that most sites list.

    256mb is the eeprom
    RAM on bold 9700---128mb or 256mb? - The Unofficial BlackBerry Support Forum

    But regardless, the 9700 is supporting OS6. The 8530 specs are not the limiter here...
    Link opening as I type this.

    I know he means RAM, that's why I posted the picture. Fixmo shows both my Curves around the 30s on RAM.

    I'm not saying the 9700 doesn't have 128MB of RAM, but I really doubt the 8500's do. Then again if I am wrong, correct me. I'm more interested about knowing right then being right.
    08-09-10 09:01 PM
  21. acaden's Avatar
    Except that the 9700 has been, and has the same ram...
    BlackBerry Bold 9700 - Full phone specifications
    AT&T BlackBerry Bold 9700 (RIM Onyx) Specs | Technical Specifications | PDAdb.net - Comprehensive Database of Smartphone, PDA, PDA Phone, PNA, netbook & Mobile Device Specifications

    Both say 256MB for the 9700.

    This is the problem with RIM devices, there are no official specs available for many critical items. Not that I can blame them. Ever notice how RIM won't list the CPU speed for the 9650? That's cause it's slower than the 9700 (discovered by a site during a tear down) and would be rather embarrassing to publish.

    Given the available info out there, I'm sticking with my assumption that the 8500 series is 128MB RAM and the 9700 is 256MB, unless anyone can show me something more official.

    As for Fixmo...
    Fixmo tools is reporting the amount of memory the operating system is allowing an application to use at the present time, and not the total amount of memory available on the device.
    Straight from their site.
    Last edited by acaden; 08-10-10 at 12:14 AM.
    08-10-10 12:05 AM
  22. Maxxxpower's Avatar
    When did RIM say the 85xx will not get it ? They just didn't include it in the primary list, but that also didn't include the curve3g.
    When they announced OS 5 8520/8530 were not in the list to get it. So at the moment nobody knows what is going to happen. Given the fact that the 9300 will get OS 6 and has basically the same hardware, there is no hardware-based reason that 8520/8530 won't get OS6.The ones who said that because of the low display resoultion or the 256MB RAM the 8520/8530 would be to weak should simply be quiet and wait.
    08-10-10 01:26 AM
  23. geekymcfly's Avatar
    so tired of hearing about it...help me get the best out of the device I have now and worry about OS6 later when it comes. If it comes...
    08-10-10 01:46 AM
  24. Maxxxpower's Avatar
    The 8500 series has 128MB RAM. No 128MB RAM device has been announced as getting OS 6. This is most likely the issue.
    No, it has 256MB Onboard Memory + 256MB Flash Memory. Same specs as 9300.
    Who told me? RIM.

    BlackBerry - BlackBerry | Wireless Handheld Devices, Software & Services from Research In Motion (RIM)

    As I said there is no hardware-related reason for the 8520 not to get OS6.
    08-10-10 02:22 AM
  25. diegonei's Avatar
    I'm still not convinced guys, sorry. Althou Fixmo says it shows the free amount, why then have it separated by RAM and ROM? I've seen screenshots of 9700 users and then yes, we do see 128ish RAM.

    papped, would you care to check your 9650? Using the Fixmo Tools trial? I know this is getting a little offtopic but should we figure it out, it's one less thing to count (or maybe the very reason for no 6).

    No, it has 256MB Onboard Memory + 256MB Flash Memory. Same specs as 9300.
    Who told me? RIM.

    BlackBerry - BlackBerry | Wireless Handheld Devices, Software & Services from Research In Motion (RIM)

    As I said there is no hardware-related reason for the 8520 not to get OS6.
    Oh I wouldn't trust that... Check the 8500 phones compared to the 9300 and you'll find they are saying all 3 of them have 256 for apps and 256 for media...

    We know for a fact the Torch has 4GB and the S2 has 2GB for media (onboard). And I know for a fact my 8520 has none.

    BlackBerry - BlackBerry | Wireless Handheld Devices, Software & Services from Research In Motion (RIM)

    I will never understand why RIM allows for such mistakes on that sheet...
    Last edited by diegonei; 08-10-10 at 08:25 AM.
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