1. hbelkin's Avatar
    I updated my Z10 using Sachesi, from the official Rogers Canada release. All seems good, and I haven't even seem most of the problems others have reported. But I am seeing some things that are very strange and annoying:

    1. Settings won't ever bring up accounts. Screen dims then brightens. Shortcut made with shortcut creator DOES bring up account settings!

    2. Some random hesitation opening apps.

    3. Word substitution no longer active in some (android) apps ... where it did work on 10.2.1. Prediction dies work however

    4. Voice assistant barely works at all. Commands directly copied from the examples don't work although they transcribe correctly. OPEN "any app" results in "app not found on your device". Most others result in command not recognized. Some that should simply result in info, like "what's the weather" result in a web search... totally useless and no idea why. Hard resets, etc no change

    5. Have seen random occurrences of messages not opening from hub.

    6. Have seen random occurrences of emails not appearing on my phone... even though I got the blinking led and those messages show up on blend! Much later they appear on the phone...once was over 5 minutes. Yet a search found the message, it just wasn't in the list in the hub!?

    So my question... advice? I'm thinking I probably have to do a full autoloader reload, but I hate doing that! I have about 140 apps that I'd have to manually reload. In my experience backup/restore is not usually a good idea...

    Btw my last backup was using Sachesi because Link kept failing even before it started backing up

    Any other suggestions before I go down this difficult path? Appreciated!

    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 12:15 PM
  2. conite's Avatar
    I'm afraid the autoloader is the answer.

    Backup what you can with a third party app like Ultimate Backup - do not use Link.

    You will have to reload your accounts, settings, and apps from scratch again.

    You will be happy you did it. It is worth the effort.

    Get the latest 10.3.1, which is 10.3.1.2744:
    https://drive.bitcasa.com/send/6tMMp...ta6F_MAr4psqA/

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.500
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    05-04-15 12:27 PM
  3. hbelkin's Avatar
    Thanks. I do use ultimate backup... just a pain restoring apps, especially android apps that came from Snap, Amazon, etc. Although I recently got an apk backup tool :-)

    Is the version you suggested an actual release? I'm on Z10STL100-4/10.3.1.2576 right now, from Rogers.

    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 12:36 PM
  4. conite's Avatar
    Thanks. I do use ultimate backup... just a pain restoring apps, especially android apps that came from Snap, Amazon, etc. Although I recently got an apk backup tool :-)

    Is the version you suggested an actual release? I'm on Z10STL100-4/10.3.1.2576 right now, from Rogers.

    Posted via CB10
    Yes it is. It is for some direct from BlackBerry models at the moment, but works great on everything. I've personally tried it on Z10-3, Z30, and Classic.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.500
    05-04-15 12:44 PM
  5. hbelkin's Avatar
    I see versions for stl-4 separate from -2 and -3. I though as of 10.3.1 the release was same for all but stl100-1?


    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 01:00 PM
  6. conite's Avatar
    I see versions for stl-4 separate from -2 and -3. I though as of 10.3.1 the release was same for all but stl100-1?


    Posted via CB10
    Just the Verizon bloatware. But get that one anyway.

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    05-04-15 01:03 PM
  7. hbelkin's Avatar
    Ok will do the -4... as soon as my backups complete.

    Haven't done an autoloader in a long time. Any estimate of how long it will run?

    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 01:27 PM
  8. conite's Avatar
    Ok will do the -4... as soon as my backups complete.

    Haven't done an autoloader in a long time. Any estimate of how long it will run?

    Posted via CB10
    It won't take more than 5 minutes. But it can take up to 15 minutes to boot after (it can appear stuck at 100% for a few minutes too). Just be patient.

    Once you go through the setup pages, put the phone down for 20 minutes or so to let it settle before you start setting things up or running apps.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.500
    05-04-15 01:29 PM
  9. hbelkin's Avatar
    Wow, I was thinking about an hour minimum! That's what I remember from long ago... :-) thanks

    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 01:35 PM
  10. hbelkin's Avatar
    Is it advisable to remove SD card prior to autoload? I'd assume autoload doesn't even look at SD, but not positive...

    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 03:02 PM
  11. conite's Avatar
    Is it advisable to remove SD card prior to autoload? I'd assume autoload doesn't even look at SD, but not positive...

    Posted via CB10
    Makes no difference.

    But make sure it's decrypted first.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.500
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    05-04-15 03:13 PM
  12. hbelkin's Avatar
    Haha, yeah I don't use encryption. Still waiting on download, backups finished. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks for the info!

    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 03:20 PM
  13. hbelkin's Avatar
    One last question... I have a ton of word substitutions. Us there and way to back them up?

    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 03:47 PM
  14. conite's Avatar
    One last question... I have a ton of word substitutions. Us there and way to back them up?

    Posted via CB10
    Unfortunately not. It can only be saved with a settings backup/restore with Link - which is what you are trying to avoid.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.500
    05-04-15 04:03 PM
  15. hbelkin's Avatar
    Figured. Taking screen shots, moving them to SD card. One day I'm gonna find that substitution file or database and script a backup for it! :-)

    Posted via CB10
    05-04-15 04:07 PM
  16. RHDJEEZY's Avatar
    what about .500 i thought that was the latest ?
    I have a STL100-3 Z10 AT&T USA
    I would like the latest verison please
    Please give instructions on having the prefect radio etc.?
    and what program to use autoloader?
    05-04-15 04:54 PM
  17. conite's Avatar
    what about .500 i thought that was the latest ?
    I have a STL100-3 Z10 AT&T USA
    I would like the latest verison please
    Please give instructions on having the prefect radio etc.?
    and what program to use autoloader?
    10.3.2 is still in beta.

    An autoloader is an executable file run on a PC.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.500
    05-04-15 04:59 PM
  18. hbelkin's Avatar
    Thanks for all your help Conite. Upgrade went well even though restoring all apps and almost 2000 contacts took a long time! Everything looks real smooth! And the boot up after the autoload took only a few minutes, I was very surprised.

    So far all my old problems are gone...except for one game chat (Ruzzle) which no longer uses word substitution as of 10.3.1, worked on 10.2, same apk.... strange.


    Posted via CB10
    05-05-15 12:31 AM
  19. hbelkin's Avatar
    After a full day on 10.3.1 autoloaded, things are great! Very fluid, no errors, and much better battery life than before (I'd estimate about 2x better).

    One good thing about autoloading, it forces a review of apps used! :-)

    My only "mistakes":
    - forgot to save browser bookmarks
    - had to manually re enter tons of word substitutes from series of screen shots
    - lost my custom dictionary
    - haven't really looked yet but I imagine I will need to relink a bunch of contacts.

    I imagine some of this must be in the backups but I didn't see any easy way to retrieve just those. Small price to pay.

    Posted via CB10
    05-05-15 03:44 PM
  20. jmbridges16's Avatar
    I am not able to update my z10 to a 10.3. The last update I had was to 10.2.1. Plus I cannot use my BBM messanger for phone calls and videos unless I am connected to a wireless network. HELP!!!!
    05-05-15 03:51 PM
  21. conite's Avatar
    I am not able to update my z10 to a 10.3. The last update I had was to 10.2.1. Plus I cannot use my BBM messanger for phone calls and videos unless I am connected to a wireless network. HELP!!!!
    Look in correct thread:
    http://forums.crackberry.com/showthread.php?t=1016610

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.500
    05-05-15 03:58 PM
  22. joeldf's Avatar
    Figured. Taking screen shots, moving them to SD card. One day I'm gonna find that substitution file or database and script a backup for it! :-)

    Posted via CB10
    Believe me, if it were possible, all the big backup app guys, like Fire Chest Backup, would have already included that ability - along with browser bookmarks and all - in their apps.

    BlackBerry just hasn't opened up those APIs yet.

    Posted via CB10
    05-05-15 04:08 PM

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