Why exactly was the 9570 scuttled?

[grahamf]

From what I understand the Storm 4G could be positioned as a high-end Blackberry device, while the 9570 would be pushed down to being a midrange device. If it was a mid-range device with specs and pricing of the BB Curve, RIM could've pushed out a lot of them as an introductory BlackBerry touchscreen.


So, why? If it was almost identical to the 9550 down to the price I could see how it's be DOA, but as a midrange it would be one of the cheaper touchscreen smartphones on the market and could be pretty popular.

[rts3k]

They would lose more customers since a lot of us bought both Storms in the past 2 years and this one would have just been a small upgrade. This will make sense if they do release the 4G Storm next year with everything people have been asking for.

[grahamf]

But still, It'd be nice if RIM offered a midrange touchscreen.

[MattyG27]

RIM needs to get one touchscreen device RIGHT before they worry about high-end and or mid range touchscreens, let's be real here.

I'd like to believe they scratched the 9570 because it just wasn't much of an upgrade besides more memory(OS6 compatible) and a better camera. Maybe the crappy sales figures of the Torch made them also realize that they need to step up the hardware on their new devices or they are just gonna keep getting laughed at when compared to all these high end touchscreen phones. The screen res on the Torch is beat and OS6 didn't get rating thru the roof at launch either.

I hope this other S3 device they are talking about, which is a capactive touchscreen device has a lot more upgrades and not just the absence of Sure-Press being the only change.
If they were smart they'd try to give this other device more of an appeal by upping the screen resolution, changing the design a lil bit and maybe throwing some other upgrades in there. However, correct me if I'm wrong here, but if it's going to be running OS6 then it would either be tough or not possible to change the screen res?? Which most likely just makes this other device they speak of a disappointment also.
We are most likely just gonna be stuck waiting on the S4 for who knows how long....

[ToddL]

Based on recent articles, it was canceled because there were 3 prototypes in development, and RIM never intended to bring all 3 to market. So as development continued, one of the devices was dropped, one of them is targeted as an LTE device released in 2011, and one is slated for November. Supposebly.

[gregerator]

That makes ther most sense of anything I've heard. Perhaps an early QNX hopeful device has been pushed to OS6 when the 9570 was dropped. ??

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[ridesno159]

I agree that it could be because other versions of the Storm are close on the horizon.

I don't think it's because it's just a simple "upgrade" or "refresh" though. Look at the 9780 that is slated to release soon. That's even less of an upgrade than the 9570. Same double the memory and 5mp camera but, the 9700 IS getting BlackBerry 6, well eventually, while the 9550 isn't suppose to.

Btw, this topic is already being discussed here http://forums.crackberry.com/f223/st...hedule-536844/

[grahamf]

Originally Posted by ToddL

Based on recent articles, it was canceled because there were 3 prototypes in development, and RIM never intended to bring all 3 to market. So as development continued, one of the devices was dropped, one of them is targeted as an LTE device released in 2011, and one is slated for November. Supposebly.

Question: is the LTE version the one with the leaked bigger screen? and would this mysterious other device essentially be what I'm talking about, a midrange touchscreen device?

[WhoolioPreludee]

Why was it scrapped? Because rim tries to pass up the same old specs in a so-called new device. If the s3 comes out with decent specs and a qnx playbook-like i'd be highly tempted to return to bb.

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[ridesno159]

Originally Posted by WhoolioPreludee

Why was it scrapped? Because rim tries to pass up the same old specs in a so-called new device.

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If this is true then explain the 9780? It's even less of an upgrade then the 9570 is, at least the 9700 will eventually get BlackBerry 6 while the 9550 will be stuck on 5.0.

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[howarmat]

Originally Posted by ridesno159

If this is true then explain the 9780? It's even less of an upgrade then the 9570 is, at least the 9700 will eventually get BlackBerry 6 while the 9550 will be stuck on 5.0.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com the only thing that the 9780 has going is that its an upgrade to one of the best BBs every made so far in the 9700. you cant say the same for the storm series.

[grahamf]

Originally Posted by howarmat

the only thing that the 9780 has going is that its an upgrade to one of the best BBs every made so far in the 9700. you cant say the same for the storm series.

The 9550 has similar specs to the 9700 BUT with a GPU. The SurePress button has been improved over the 9530 so it is no longer an issue. The only problem is with the OS. the 9550 even has more memory

I have a 9530 and the only problems were that the button sticks and the OS is buggy. and considering the specs are higher or equal than the 9700 (the 9700's cpu is faster, but the 9550 has a GPU so that makes performance better and makes OpenGL possible), if the 9570 was similar but launched with a fixed OS, it would probably be considered one of the best Blackberrys.

But RIM, position and price it similar to the Curve 3G series, then come out with the Storm 4G with a bigger screen.

[pcgizmo]

Originally Posted by ridesno159

If this is true then explain the 9780? It's even less of an upgrade then the 9570 is, at least the 9700 will eventually get BlackBerry 6 while the 9550 will be stuck on 5.0.

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Bold has been a success for RIM. Storm...lol...not so much.

[howarmat]

Originally Posted by grahamf

The 9550 has similar specs to the 9700 BUT with a GPU. The SurePress button has been improved over the 9530 so it is no longer an issue. The only problem is with the OS. the 9550 even has more memory

I have a 9530 and the only problems were that the button sticks and the OS is buggy. and considering the specs are higher or equal than the 9700 (the 9700's cpu is faster, but the 9550 has a GPU so that makes performance better and makes OpenGL possible), if the 9570 was similar but launched with a fixed OS, it would probably be considered one of the best Blackberrys.

But RIM, position and price it similar to the Curve 3G series, then come out with the Storm 4G with a bigger screen.

what does that have to do with the 9700->9780 upgrade though?

[ridesno159]

Originally Posted by howarmat

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com the only thing that the 9780 has going is that its an upgrade to one of the best BBs every made so far in the 9700. you cant say the same for the storm series.

Originally Posted by plkcable

Bold has been a success for RIM. Storm...lol...not so much.

While I agree with both of you that the Bold series is the best line that RIM makes, I just find the double-standard amusing. When we first seen images and specs of the 9570 many CB users were mad at the fact that it was just a simple upgrade of memory, camera, and BlackBerry 6 support. While everyone raved about the 9780 when all it got was memory and camera upgrades. That the 9780 was a godsend while the 9570 was a pathetic upgrade. That makes no sense to me...

Am I denying that the 9550 wasn't the best BB out there? No, it has it's own issues, that very well could have been remedied with the 9570. I love my 9550, and am using it with little to no issues...

Do I wish the 9550 would have got BlackBerry 6 support? You bet! Am I mad that it didn't? No, could care less about it, it works just fine the way it is. I have a 9650 for that. Would I have liked the 9570? No, wouldn't be worth the upgrade for me, but would have been great for 9530 users.

I'm saving my upgrade for the true Storm 3 that will hopefully be coming early next year...