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11-14-2010, 02:35 AM
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RIM’s first slider, the BlackBerry Torch 9800, rumour has it the next one will be smaller and cheaper. The reduced size suggests that such a device would have a condensed keyboard like the Pearl series, but that’s just fun with Photoshop at this point. Exactly how much cheaper we’re talking is open to interpretation, but it would have to be a significant drop in price if the top-end Torch is selling for $99 on contract. 
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11-14-2010, 05:14 AM
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how much cheaper can you get? A sure-type keyboard isn't going to dramatically drop the costs unless the screen is indeed cut in size.
Unless they plan on getting rid of the bezel and having the screen and keyboard go right to the edge. Actually, i wouldn't have minded the qwerty keyboard going to the edge on the torch, just like the 9700-9780.
Unless slim, they're talking about the thickness of the device? In which case, I wouldn't care to much for it. I mean it feels good in the hand already. Perhaps dropping a few grams here and there and you'll be right.
I think people would prefer the specs to jump up in size and have the torch dropped to a lower price bracket.
It'll be interesting to see what they do as its good to cover each market segment whilst keeping the overall experience consistent (in good way of course :P)
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11-14-2010, 11:09 AM
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A Pearl Slide? Would be interesting. Probably goes hand-in-hand with the touchscreen QNX flip Pearl rumour.
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11-14-2010, 11:21 AM
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I think it would be pointless and not sell too well at all
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11-14-2010, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by grahamf  A Pearl Slide? Would be interesting. Probably goes hand-in-hand with the touchscreen QNX flip Pearl rumour. | The Pearl Slide is an old concept I first heard of 2 years ago. It would be interesting to see if it comes to life.
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The Torch is $99 right now. Is it even selling well? If not, I can't see this device selling well either.
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11-14-2010, 06:45 PM
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I think, it would be stupid to do a reduced-keyboard thing. The full keyboard is the selling point of the BB in many's eyes.
On the other hand, BB really need a "flagship" phone, which is supposedly the torch right now, but still they should need a real flagship, just like how other phone makers have a "flagship" phone, which is the leader and on the cutting edge technology.
Keep the torch the way it is, just do the software updates and fixes, but don't forget the crowd which goes for the best of the best, regardless if it costs 400 bucks with a 2 year contract. It's sort of like how the car companies have a flagship car..it might be too expensive for average users, but it's more like a demonstration of technology. That's what RIM should be working on, not on prepaid-like quality phones, that market is already saturated, no need for more cheap phones.
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11-14-2010, 07:09 PM
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I think they should concentrate on getting the torch on all the carriers. I like the concept but not able to use as verizon is my carrier
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11-14-2010, 09:36 PM
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I don't get it either, why build another POS cheapo phone? the Torch is already $99 on contract, thats pretty cheap for a high end smartphone in their line-up. Why would anyone go lower?
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11-14-2010, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by stuaw11 I don't get it either, why build another POS cheapo phone? the Torch is already $99 on contract, thats pretty cheap for a high end smartphone in their line-up. Why would anyone go lower? | And those who want the " old fashioned BB experience", you can get a BB curve for 200 bucks brand new, and you got yourself a decent phone with no contract, to be used with any gsm carrier.
I mean..200 bucks for a curve you can use with any GSM providers, why would anyone want to buy a cheapo slim phone with a plan nowadays, and to top it off, as I said, this area is already saturated by androids and various no-name phones which will do the exact same thing as a slim torch, but perhaps even having higher specs than the full blown torch itself?? And cost nothing with a plan? 
Not to mention, just how hard is to come up with 99 dollars? If you have a job and you want a phone, - I mean..I remember 10 years ago I bought this Sprint phone that had zero features beside making calls and texting and I paid like 200 bucks for the damn thing and I only had a part time job.
Or is it the size really? Come on now, the torch isn't so big at all, compared to how people are literally buying a small screen TVs for phones, like the droid X.
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11-15-2010, 05:54 PM
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My opinion of the perfect BB would be a remake of the original Bold 9000. Huge keyboard, big screen, OS 6 or 7 at that point, with of course the trackpad. 1Ghz processor and 8GB of internal memory minimum. If RIM made that happen, I'd be one happy camper.
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11-15-2010, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfpacal My opinion of the perfect BB would be a remake of the original Bold 9000. Huge keyboard, big screen, OS 6 or 7 at that point, with of course the trackpad. 1Ghz processor and 8GB of internal memory minimum. If RIM made that happen, I'd be one happy camper.
Wolfpacal | throw in a better Internet browser while at it, and I will be happy too.
Opera still doesn't have a browser that supports the OS6. Well of course, that can be blamed on Opera, but still come on....the BB internet browser feels and acts very stone age, compared to the competition.
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11-16-2010, 05:40 PM
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We don't need a "make do" Blackberry.
Torch with all the goodies. Period.
Or something better? Like Torch HD? (I like that name)
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11-16-2010, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfpacal My opinion of the perfect BB would be a remake of the original Bold 9000. Huge keyboard, big screen, OS 6 or 7 at that point, with of course the trackpad. 1Ghz processor and 8GB of internal memory minimum. If RIM made that happen, I'd be one happy camper.
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Originally Posted by Shodan775 throw in a better Internet browser while at it, and I will be happy too. | Hopefully, RIM will make it happen.......one day.  |
11-16-2010, 07:29 PM
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If what you say is true, who cares.
What they need to do, is increase the specs of the Torch: resolution/ram/gpu/cam/everything
and THEN, make the keyboard bigger. What not go back towards the 9000 styling.
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