BlackBerry Colt May Be Dual-Core After All

[Buzz_Dengue]

BlackBerry Colt May Be Dual-Core After All
By Joe Arico | Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:48 pm
Research in Motion's first QNX-based phone may have better specs than earlier rumors indicated, which may make it a legitimate contender against high-powered devices like the iPhone and Droid Bionic.

The BlackBerry Colt could feature a dual-core processor, touch screen-only controls and a 3.7-inch screen or larger, according to website CrackBerry. The Colt was expected to be released in early 2012, but new reports say the device could launch by the end of the year. RIM is betting on the Colt and other QNX-based phones to be the company's remedy for poor sales and dwindling market share.

CrackBerry's report contradicts what was initially reported about the BlackBerry Colt. Analysts earlier this month expressed disappointment when reports speculated the device would have only a single-core processor and follow the design of the BlackBerry 9900. While the QNX operating system may be an upgrade from the current BlackBerry 7, it likely will have to come packaged with more impressive hardware to make up lost ground for RIM.

Speculation about the BlackBerry Colt is in line with what RIM co-CEO Mike Lazaridis promised at the beginning of the year. Lazaridis said QNX "super-phones" would be multi-core devices that would usher in the next ten years of BlackBerry. A phone with the specs described in CrackBerry's report may be legitimate competition for Motorola's Droid Bionic and Apple's iPhone 5.

If RIM launches the Colt by the end of the year, it will join Apple's new iPhone and other devices in what is already bound to be a competitive holiday season. The company may want to take advantage of the holiday shopping rush to give its device a kick start and potentially spread positive word of mouth going into the new year.

However, RIM has a history of rushing its devices. The company's release of its PlayBook tablet computer received negative reviews that called the product "half-baked," and the device's sales have never rebounded. RIM can't rush the BlackBerry Colt because the company can't afford for the device to fail.

RIM is betting all its chips on the Colt and its other QNX phones to lead the charge in reestablishing BlackBerry as a worthy option in the smartphone market. If these newest rumors about the device turn out to be true, the company's odds may be better than originally expected.

BlackBerry Colt May Be Dual-Core After All - Mobiledia

[sk8er_tor]

Which CrackBerry report are they referencing?

[Buzz_Dengue]

Originally Posted by sk8er_tor

Which CrackBerry report are they referencing?

...I couldn't find it either...

[Briard]

Originally Posted by Buzz_Dengue

...I couldn't find it either...

http://crackberry.com/first-qnx-blac...een-blackberry

"Yes, the BlackBerry "Colt" will be a full touchscreen BlackBerry (no trackpad like the Torch 9850/9860) and it will be running on a dual-core hardware platform, like its tablet-sized older brother the BlackBerry PlayBook"

[grahamf]

I'm guessing that hardware-wise it will be virtually identical to the PlayBook, but with 3G and a smaller screen.

[Blackberry_boffin]

It needs to have 3D HD capability (the market is fierce). It keeps being touted as a superphone which tells me it has to be able to do what every other phone out there does (irregardless of whether we think its neccessary or not). It has to have 4G capability as well. Whatever the iphone 5 throws out it has to match/beat.

[TBacker]

Originally Posted by Blackberry_boffin

It needs to have 3D HD capability (the market is fierce). It keeps being touted as a superphone which tells me it has to be able to do what every other phone out there does (irregardless of whether we think its neccessary or not). It has to have 4G capability as well. Whatever the iphone 5 throws out it has to match/beat.

Come on guys. If it has everything everyone could ever want, it would be the size of a friggin Prius (and would need a Prius size battery too!).

The "it's gotta have" crowd is out of control. Lets see...

• 3D
• 4.3" Super AMOLED
• 4G (both LTE and GSM)
• Quad core
• Keyboard, wait, no keyboard, wait, slider, naw, horizontal slider...
• 8 GB internal ram
• 64 GB SD card
• 802.11b/g/n
• Hotspot
• NFC
• GPS
• Compass
• HDMI
• 12MP AF front, and 8MP rear camera
• Xenon flash
• Trackpad
• QNX with Android, BBOS, Windows Phone 7, and IOS5, PlayStation, and Xbox emulators
• POP, IMAP, ActiveSync, BES, BIS
• Browser with Flash, Silverlight, HTML5 media, unlimited tabs

Unless it has all of that, they might as well give up because no one will buy it.

[ashalim]

Well if it has all this then I would definitely call it a "Super" phone.

If it's just going to match the other phones already out then I would just call it one among many.

All I want is good browsing and android app player and good battery (on top of all the other BB goodies already :P)

Australia has jack all app developers

Originally Posted by TBacker

Come on guys. If it has everything everyone could ever want, it would be the size of a friggin Prius (and would need a Prius size battery too!).

The "it's gotta have" crowd is out of control. Lets see...

• 3D
• 4.3" Super AMOLED
• 4G (both LTE and GSM)
• Quad core
• Keyboard, wait, no keyboard, wait, slider, naw, horizontal slider...
• 8 GB internal ram
• 64 GB SD card
• 802.11b/g/n
• Hotspot
• NFC
• GPS
• Compass
• HDMI
• 12MP AF front, and 8MP rear camera
• Xenon flash
• Trackpad
• QNX with Android, BBOS, Windows Phone 7, and IOS5, PlayStation, and Xbox emulators
• POP, IMAP, ActiveSync, BES, BIS
• Browser with Flash, Silverlight, HTML5 media, unlimited tabs

Unless it has all of that, they might as well give up because no one will buy it.

[eKafara]

Originally Posted by TBacker

Come on guys. If it has everything everyone could ever want, it would be the size of a friggin Prius (and would need a Prius size battery too!).

The "it's gotta have" crowd is out of control. Lets see...

• 3D
• 4.3" Super AMOLED
• 4G (both LTE and GSM)
• Quad core
• Keyboard, wait, no keyboard, wait, slider, naw, horizontal slider...
• 8 GB internal ram
• 64 GB SD card
• 802.11b/g/n
• Hotspot
• NFC
• GPS
• Compass
• HDMI
• 12MP AF front, and 8MP rear camera
• Xenon flash
• Trackpad
• QNX with Android, BBOS, Windows Phone 7, and IOS5, PlayStation, and Xbox emulators
• POP, IMAP, ActiveSync, BES, BIS
• Browser with Flash, Silverlight, HTML5 media, unlimited tabs

Unless it has all of that, they might as well give up because no one will buy it.

I'll preorder on of those thanks! Sounds awesome

You are right about people saying it has to have everything. I think they are right about it needing to have to have a lot but it can't have everything. It will be an awesome phone. I think it will become RIM's next flagship phone. Atleast till a QNX Bold comes out. Then they might have 2 flagship devices. One full screen one touchscreen + keyboard combo then have some cheaper versions. I think they may get rid of the slider, even though there is a bit of a demand for it.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[Umm Yeah...]

Originally Posted by TBacker

Come on guys. If it has everything everyone could ever want, it would be the size of a friggin Prius (and would need a Prius size battery too!).

The "it's gotta have" crowd is out of control. Lets see...

• 3D
• 4.3" Super AMOLED
• 4G (both LTE and GSM)
• Quad core
• Keyboard, wait, no keyboard, wait, slider, naw, horizontal slider...
• 8 GB internal ram
• 64 GB SD card
• 802.11b/g/n
• Hotspot
• NFC
• GPS
• Compass
• HDMI
• 12MP AF front, and 8MP rear camera
• Xenon flash
• Trackpad
• QNX with Android, BBOS, Windows Phone 7, and IOS5, PlayStation, and Xbox emulators
• POP, IMAP, ActiveSync, BES, BIS
• Browser with Flash, Silverlight, HTML5 media, unlimited tabs

Unless it has all of that, they might as well give up because no one will buy it.

You left out that the battery must last at least 3 days between recharges under heavy use. Or maybe the batteries would recharge from the envious vibrations that emanate from those around you.

[Bro1988]

i'm sorry but this phone needs to be 4G. Lets talk marketing and how you need to differentiate your product. What differentiates this new phone from an iphone or a droid?

I'll start with the iphone. It doesn't have 4g and the new 2011 model most likely won't. Now we know apple is working on 4g and odds are they will release a 4g phone in 2012. If RIM waits and doesn't put it on this phone... Apple ends up with another leg up late next year.

Now the droid. RIM's argument will be we can have all the safety and security you expect from BB plus Droid apps. But... 4g droids exist. They keep working to make Droid's more capable of being used in a business setting. There goes staying ahead of droids in anything.

To even match these other platforms, this phone needs to be killer. It needs to be dual core, have all the elements of email and bbm missing from the playbook, and be 4g. Anything short extremely kills the value proposition of the device and by the time they match it.. we will have quadcore 4g iphones and droids.

[calicocat2010]

Originally Posted by Bro1988

i'm sorry but this phone needs to be 4G. Lets talk marketing and how you need to differentiate your product. What differentiates this new phone from an iphone or a droid?

I'll start with the iphone. It doesn't have 4g and the new 2011 model most likely won't. Now we know apple is working on 4g and odds are they will release a 4g phone in 2012. If RIM waits and doesn't put it on this phone... Apple ends up with another leg up late next year.

Now the droid. RIM's argument will be we can have all the safety and security you expect from BB plus Droid apps. But... 4g droids exist. They keep working to make Droid's more capable of being used in a business setting. There goes staying ahead of droids in anything.

To even match these other platforms, this phone needs to be killer. It needs to be dual core, have all the elements of email and bbm missing from the playbook, and be 4g. Anything short extremely kills the value proposition of the device and by the time they match it.. we will have quadcore 4g iphones and droids.

Remember they aren't trying to compete with Apple.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[Bro1988]

So who are they competing with? Themselves? They have to know consumers compare phones. Now if they want be a Keyocera and conquer the low end market ok but they keep pricing the phones as high end phones. Once you reach Apple's price point, you are competing with Apple.

[Umm Yeah...]

Originally Posted by Bro1988

i'm sorry but this phone needs to be 4G. Lets talk marketing and how you need to differentiate your product. What differentiates this new phone from an iphone or a droid?

I'll start with the iphone. It doesn't have 4g and the new 2011 model most likely won't. Now we know apple is working on 4g and odds are they will release a 4g phone in 2012. If RIM waits and doesn't put it on this phone... Apple ends up with another leg up late next year.

Now the droid. RIM's argument will be we can have all the safety and security you expect from BB plus Droid apps. But... 4g droids exist. They keep working to make Droid's more capable of being used in a business setting. There goes staying ahead of droids in anything.

To even match these other platforms, this phone needs to be killer. It needs to be dual core, have all the elements of email and bbm missing from the playbook, and be 4g. Anything short extremely kills the value proposition of the device and by the time they match it.. we will have quadcore 4g iphones and droids.

I dso understand what you're saying. I felt that my next phone HAD to be 4G or I wasn't getting it but then things changed. (I'm tied to Verizon, so all of these relate primarily to my experiences with them)

• I tried the Verizon 4G LTE phones in their stores (which ALWAYS have strong signals) and it didn't blow me away.
• Verizon seems to be asking a $100 premium on their 4G phones, which I am not willing to pay.
• 4G (at least Verizon's) sucks the life out of a battery in a heartbeat.
• Carriers are starting to limit the amount of downloading I can do, so I'm relying on WiFi more and more.

While I like the idea of 4G, it's not a make or break issue for me. I do hope the phone costs, bandwidth costs, and battery issues go away but until they do, 4G is a perk that I don't have to have.

[syounger64]

Originally Posted by Umm Yeah...

I dso understand what you're saying. I felt that my next phone HAD to be 4G or I wasn't getting it but then things changed. (I'm tied to Verizon, so all of these relate primarily to my experiences with them)

• I tried the Verizon 4G LTE phones in their stores (which ALWAYS have strong signals) and it didn't blow me away.
• Verizon seems to be asking a $100 premium on their 4G phones, which I am not willing to pay.
• 4G (at least Verizon's) sucks the life out of a battery in a heartbeat.
• Carriers are starting to limit the amount of downloading I can do, so I'm relying on WiFi more and more.

While I like the idea of 4G, it's not a make or break issue for me. I do hope the phone costs, bandwidth costs, and battery issues go away but until they do, 4G is a perk that I don't have to have.

Sorry I disagree. I'm seeing reports of the new Droid phones this fall doing far better with battery life and great speeds too. I'm leaning towards the Droid Bionic because after my blackberry 9300, I want those specs in terms of screen size, 4g, dual cameras for video chat and the available apps as minimum. I just wish blackberry phones were there right now but they aren't.