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08-05-2011, 06:11 PM
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Sorry, I just couldn't resist how good QNX would be on the 9900. I really do hope it will be upgradeable to the new QNX software. Who knows?.
This would be a dream..
-also with a front facing camera!.
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08-05-2011, 06:23 PM
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Nice picture. I can imagine ill-informed people might find that picture on the internet and then start speculating that QNX will be available on the 9900.
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08-05-2011, 07:07 PM
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im pretty sure QNX only really runs optimal on dual core processors.
but only time will tell.
I truly believe it wont happen
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08-05-2011, 07:14 PM
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Guys!.
I purely made this sketch up!. I just wanted to show that it can be done  .
QNX can run on anything. cars, machinery etc. so why not on a lower spec'd single core phone?
to my knowledge,
OS 4 phones was upgradeable to OS 5
OS 5 phones was upgradeable to OS 6
OS 6 wasn't because of the RAM or some other problem.
But seriously. If RIM has used elements of QNX in OS 7, they're could be a possibility that it might be upgradeable.
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08-05-2011, 10:40 PM
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Unless you're willing to remove practically half of the features the new QNX-based OS will bring to it - then I highly doubt older BB models will be suitable for the new OS.
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08-05-2011, 10:58 PM
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RIM has not *even hinted* that the OS7 devices will ever get QNX. And has said their implementation requires dual core procs. Anyhow. So no chance I'd say. Though OS7 looks good and fast.
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QNX has no problem running on a single core processor. This has to do with RIM's "tonnage" strategy.
RIM is going to host 2 more OS's on top of the native one. Android and BBOS in "players". It also offers the WebWorks SDK, which is in a sense targeting another player, using the browser as a runtime. All these non-native runtimes are going to do their own thing, they're like black boxes to the hosting OS, so it's best to throw a separate core at them.
But a bigger issue is memory. Loading Android and BBOS, along with the native QNX OS will take a lot of RAM. Not storage memory, runtime memory.
The Playbook has 2GB of RAM. The phones top out at 768MB.
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08-06-2011, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by -111- Guys!.
I purely made this sketch up!. I just wanted to show that it can be done  .
QNX can run on anything. cars, machinery etc. so why not on a lower spec'd single core phone?
to my knowledge,
OS 4 phones was upgradeable to OS 5 Really? The 8310/20 would disagree with that...
OS 5 phones was upgradeable to OS 6 Is that so? Then why is it the 85xx, 8900 and Storms didn't get OS6?
OS 6 wasn't because of the RAM or some other problem.
But seriously. If RIM has used elements of QNX in OS 7, they're could be a possibility that it might be upgradeable. | Oh, and OS 6 devices are not getting OS 7.
RIM might do it. But history is telling a different story.
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08-06-2011, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by synthmole QNX has no problem running on a single core processor. This has to do with RIM's "tonnage" strategy.
RIM is going to host 2 more OS's on top of the native one. Android and BBOS in "players". It also offers the WebWorks SDK, which is in a sense targeting another player, using the browser as a runtime. All these non-native runtimes are going to do their own thing, they're like black boxes to the hosting OS, so it's best to throw a separate core at them.
But a bigger issue is memory. Loading Android and BBOS, along with the native QNX OS will take a lot of RAM. Not storage memory, runtime memory. The Playbook has 2GB of RAM. The phones top out at 768MB. | The PlayBook has 1GB of RAM.
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08-06-2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by diegonei Quote:
Originally Posted by -111- View Post
Guys!.
I purely made this sketch up!. I just wanted to show that it can be done .
QNX can run on anything. cars, machinery etc. so why not on a lower spec'd single core phone?
to my knowledge,
OS 4 phones was upgradeable to OS 5
Really? The 8310/20 would disagree with that...
OS 5 phones was upgradeable to OS 6
Is that so? Then why is it the 85xx, 8900 and Storms didn't get OS6?
OS 6 wasn't because of the RAM or some other problem.
But seriously. If RIM has used elements of QNX in OS 7, they're could be a possibility that it might be upgradeable.
Oh, and OS 6 devices are not getting OS 7.
RIM might do it. But history is telling a different story
Oh, and OS 6 devices are not getting OS 7.
RIM might do it. But history is telling a different story. | No mate
OS 4.7 was on the 8900, 9000, etc. they were all upgradeable to OS 5!
OS 5 phone e.g. 9700, 9300, 9100 (that pearl phone?) were ALL upgradeable to OS 6
OS 6 e.g. 9800, 9780 wasn't upgradeable due to RAM Memory.
Blackberry have not yet confirmed whether OS 7 will be upgradeable.
I guess not all devices will be upgradeable maybe due TO RAM! Thats why some devices weren't upgradeable. ?. who knows?
Anyway, i'm just saying how good they would look on QNX...
I heard that there was also meant to be no QNX with the next upgrade on OS. so maybe OS 7 maybe upgradeable to the newer OS without QNX??
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08-06-2011, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by -111- No mate
OS 4.7 was on the 8900, 9000, etc. they were all upgradeable to OS 5! No mate. 4.7 was on the Tour and Storm1. 9000 shipped with 4.6 and 8900 with 4.6.1.
OS 5 phone e.g. 9700, 9300, 9100 (that pearl phone?) were ALL upgradeable to OS 6 Yet the Storm 2, 8900, 85xx and Tour weren't. Your point?
OS 6 e.g. 9800, 9780 wasn't upgradeable due to RAM Memory. Says who? If you had gone with the liquid graphics argument, I'd have agreed thou.
Blackberry have not yet confirmed whether OS 7 will be upgradeable.
I guess not all devices will be upgradeable maybe due TO RAM! Thats why some devices weren't upgradeable. ?. who knows? The RAM argument for updating to OS 6 has long been dropped. The 9300 and the 9700 only have 256mb, like all the ones that didn't get 6. The only thing the devices that got 6 really have different from the other was the processor, 624mhz. Wait. The 9650 only had a 524mhz processor. So, as I said many times before. It was a marketing decision. RIM decided not to.
Anyway, i'm just saying how good they would look on QNX...
I heard that there was also meant to be no QNX with the next upgrade on OS. so maybe OS 7 maybe upgradeable to the newer OS without QNX?? | I personaly believe it is possible to have OS 7 devices running QNX. Yet again I say it is unlikely, because RIM has been doing the "we won't update previously released devices" thing.
You do remember 7 was supposed to be 6.1 and allow us to edit which panes we wanted to have right? It was supposed to be vailable to OS 6 devices and then "liquid graphics" came in and it was not.
Could RIM stil get the pre-liquid graphics code and release to us? Yes. Will they? Doubtful.
Still, the argument is moot till we see RIM say something. Let us just hold hands and wish hard.
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08-06-2011, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by diegonei I personaly believe it is possible to have OS 7 devices running QNX. Yet again I say it is unlikely, because RIM has been doing the "we won't update previously released devices" thing.
You do remember 7 was supposed to be 6.1 and allow us to edit which panes we wanted to have right? It was supposed to be vailable to OS 6 devices and then "liquid graphics" came in and it was not.
Could RIM stil get the pre-liquid graphics code and release to us? Yes. Will they? Doubtful.
Still, the argument is moot till we see RIM say something. Let us just hold hands and wish hard. | Oh yes!. they also cut 11% of it's workforce!.
- Just saying.. less people..
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08-06-2011, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by -111- Oh yes!. they also cut 11% of it's workforce!.
- Just sayin' | It is more than "just sayin'" it's troll-bait. It has nothing to do with the topic we're on.
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08-06-2011, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by diegonei It is more than "just sayin'" it's troll-bait. It has nothing to do with the topic we're on.
Could RIM stil get the pre-liquid graphics code and release to us? Yes. Will they? Doubtful. | No it isn't. it has everything to do with the topic we are on. if BlackBerry have less employees it means there may be less people working on different things. i have not even started on the PRODUCTIVITY of employees, maybe they might let OS 7 be upgradeable but how things are looking now, i don't think so.
how can they just give OS 7 to OS 6 owners without pre-liquid graphics. OS 7 have things which OS 6 DIDN'T!. I've already said this but having to repeat. THE REASON OS 6 WASN'T UPGRADEABLE WAS DUE TO RAM/MEMORY ISSUES!!!!!
I posted this picture just to SHOW how nice QNX looks on the device  . and I hope that perhaps 9900 owners may get a software update. by the looks of it, it's a 'no' which i've understood. but then again who knows?. it might be possible..
All i wanted was just some praise, discussion about it. never even wanted any other BS or rude comments on here.
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08-06-2011, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bulls2213 The PlayBook has 1GB of RAM. | Thanks. Still, there's no way 3 OS's will be running together on the released phones.
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